Thank you for identifying the dance! We had a great time dancing it at
Chrissy's "Woman's Prerogative" session at NEFFA this year.
To get an idea of how busy the SharedWeight list is, you can visit the
website and view the public archives there.
There is also a couple of paragraphs talking about the focus of the list
and how it got started.
Peter Amidon wrote:
> Hi Chrissy,
> I learned that dance in Austin TX and I originally thought it was
> a Gene Hubert composition but did not have the name. I always
> announced this when I called the dance. Someone finally recognized
> it and let me know that it is a Dale Rempert dance called
> 'Feet in Flight'.
> The instructions are just as I transcribed it and taught it
> EXCEPT for B1. Here is the way I transcribed and the way I
> call B1:
> B1: Pass R & L through
> Circle L X1
> Obviously both ways work.
> How busy is the Callers discussion list?
>> Hi Peter and Mary Alice,
>> I'm writing to see if I can get the title of a dance which I *may*
>> have collected from Peter at the Flurry some years ago (or maybe at a
>> Greenfield dance more recently?)
>> Here it is, below. Look familiar? Any idea if it's one in your
>> box? If so, can you help with title and author? My scribbles
>> indicated that I thought it was a Gene Hubert dance, but no one I
>> know has been able to find it in his books or on the internet.
>> If you have the data, great. If not, I'd also love to know that you
>> *don't* know. :-) And happy late spring to you both!
>> Chrissy Fowler
>>> >[Insert name here]
>>>> duple improper
>>>> A1: Ring balance; women roll neigbor gent away with a half sashay
>>>> Ladies chain
>>>> A2: Women gypsy
>>>> Swing P
>>>> B1: Circle L x3/4
>>>> Ring balance, Petronella twirl
>>>> B2: Ring balance, Petronella twirl
>>> >Ring balance, California twirl
Okay, I don't know the name of it either. I may have gotten it from Peter
Amidon at the Flurry some years ago. (at least that's what's scribbled on
the card, deciphered from the scrap of paper I came across recently when I
thought, "Hey, that's a cool dance," and wrote it on an actual card.)
So, really, what I ought to do is email Peter. Which I will do next.
I'll call some frequent emailer if I get an answer.
Cheers to all! (and SUCH fun to meet some of you for the first time at
NEFFA... and when I had my turn in the tent with the hip young dancers it
was pretty fun too.)
Oh, and the "0+ sthg." on the card was my own code for titling it, so that I
would have something to call it in my program notes for dances at which I
called it. No connection to reality.
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thanks!! :-) chf
>Subject: Callers Digest, Vol 21, Issue 4
>Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 12:00:01 -0400
>Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 06:57:49 -0400
>From: Chris Weiler <chris.weiler(a)weirdtable.org>
>Subject: Re: [Callers] Dance identification needed
>To: Caller's discussion list <callers(a)sharedweight.net>
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>This is one of the dances that Chrissy posted here and I forwarded to
>trad-dance-callers. Unfortunately, no one has responded from either
>group with an answer.
>Karen Fontana wrote:
> >Hi Jeremy,
> > I have the same dance written down with the same question! I also
>looked through Gene Hubert's dances. What she wrote on the card is "Woman
>(the symbol for woman, so could be Ladies... Sthing" Gene Hubert....
> > I've copied Chrissy.... HI CHRISSY! no more "lurking"... we need your
>input here! ....
> > I danced this one in the tent in the lower hall with the young-uns when
>she called this one. It was rockin'!
> > Looking forward to getting the name of the dance as well. It's a great
> > Karen
> >J L Korr <jeremykorr(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >In her splendid NEFFA session, Chrissy Fowler called the following dance.
> >She had it listed as probably by Gene Hubert, but with no name. I haven't
> >been able to find it in my first look thru Gene's dances. Can anyone help
> >with the name and composer, so I can credit it properly when I call it
> >[Insert name here]
> >duple improper
> >A1: Ring balance; women roll neigbor gent away with a half sashay
> >Ladies chain
> >A2: Women gypsy
> >Swing P
> >B1: Circle L x3/4
> >Ring balance, Petronella twirl
> >B2: Ring balance, Petronella twirl
> >Ring balance, California twirl
> >Jeremy Korr
>Date: 08 May 2006 08:15:52 EDT
>From: David.Millstone(a)VALLEY.NET (David Millstone)
>Subject: Re: [Callers] Dance identification needed
>Chrissy checks e-mail less frequently than do many of us on this list. I'm
>she'll weigh in with an answer to share when she catches up with her mail.
>Callers mailing list
>End of Callers Digest, Vol 21, Issue 4
In her splendid NEFFA session, Chrissy Fowler called the following dance.
She had it listed as probably by Gene Hubert, but with no name. I haven't
been able to find it in my first look thru Gene's dances. Can anyone help me
with the name and composer, so I can credit it properly when I call it this
[Insert name here]
A1: Ring balance; women roll neigbor gent away with a half sashay
A2: Women gypsy
B1: Circle L x3/4
Ring balance, Petronella twirl
B2: Ring balance, Petronella twirl
Ring balance, California twirl
--- Rickey wrote:
As I recall the dances Petronella and Green Mountain Petronella differ in the
order of the balances and the turns: Petronella: "Around to your right
and you balance", while Green Mountain Petronella is "first you balance then you
turn". If this is so then how can the tunes for these dances be played together
as I have seen suggested.
--- end of quote ---
Well, you don't have to change the dance with the tune change, but it's fun to
do so if your dancers are up for it. You can alert them that they'll be doing
the balance/turn in different order and the givem them a heads-up and call once
or twice as the tune changes. When we do that, we usually go from Petronella
The association of these tunes with the dances is a relatively recent
phenomenon. Ralph Page cites alternate tunes as ones commonly played in the past
for the dance.
And remember, too, that the dance as it used to be done, until the early 1970s,
was with just the active couple doing the balance and turn, a show-off moment
when everyone would strut their stuff and demonstrate their highly
individualistic balance steps. Still fun to do it that way. If your dancers are
flexible enough to try that, you can encourage folks to try out different styles
of balance steps. You'll find an interesting article titled "50 Variations of
the Balance" in Northern Junket, Vol. 5, #1, pp. 13-19, located online starting
at this URL:
As I recall the dances Petronella and Green Mountain Petronella differ in
the order of the balances and the turns: Petronella: "Around to your right
and you balance", while Green Mountain Petronella is "first you balance then
you turn". If this is so then how can the tunes for these dances be played
together as I have seen suggested.
Thanks for your help.
There have been terrific suggestions regarding beginner party contra
dances (eg, David Kaynor's booklet -
http://www.davidkaynor.com/booklet.html - which I recently received
and have enjoyed very much).
However, most of the gigs that I have done have not included live
music. As a beginnning contra dance caller (I mostly call square
dances), I would find very helpful suggestions to specific
"purchasable" recordings (and cuts within the CDs) that people have
enjoyed using for specific contra dances - especially contra dances
appropriate for beginner parties. As a made-up example (since I don't
have the CD in front of me), "for a teenage crowd I really like to use
The Privy Tippers - cut 2 - The Curvy Line for Haymakers Jig - except
that the music starts at A1 with no pickup, and at 4:15 it is a
I'm especially interested in high energy and good quality recordings
that could project nicely through a decent sound system.
Any suggestions - or places to look for this kind of info?
(I'm aware of Dudley Laufman's collections and of the New England
Thanks very much. And apologies in advance if this is an old question
that is being re-asked for the n-th time. (So many topics do seem to
be unintentionally revisited yearly on mailing lists. :)
Peter Ostapenko (San Diego, CA) http://www.pirkadat.org/caller
First I would like to thank all of you who have been answering my questions
so far. At first I didnt know how to email back only those who had
answered rather than the whole list, and then I thought that I would see you
at NEFFA. That did not happen either so here is a general thanks.
Secondly, I have two versions of Gene Huberts Summer of 84 (written with
Steve Schnur ?), that differ in A1 and A2, and I was wondering which if any,
was correct. I would love to call one of these versions this Thursday. Both
versions are duple improper. The two versions are:
(A1) forward and back all (8), Men allemande left (1 ½), Right to Partner to
a wavy line across (8)
(A2) balance that wavy line (4), walk forward (leaving Partner) to new wavy
line across (4), balance there (4), Allemande Right shadow (4) and back to
(A1) forward and back all (8), Men allemande RIGHT ( ½ ) (2), Partner
Allemande left to a wavy line across (6)
(A2) balance the wave (4), walk forward (leaving Partner) to new wavy line
across (4), Balance that wavy line (4), Allemande LEFT ( ¾ ) to Partner
The B sections are the same.
Finally, I would like to ask your opinion about starting a new dance series
in a town that already has a series. In the case I am thinking of there
already is a well established dance in the same town, and it is not at all
clear that the town can support two dance series every month.
Thank you all in advance for your replies,