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Re: [Musicians] Learning/sharing/remembering rhythms

by Yaron Shragai via Musicians

The 123-123-12 rhythm appears in Middle Eastern, Balkan, and African music; I would more than suspect that its occurrence in contra dance music has come mainly via the African route, both via the slave influence in Appalachian music and via the hippy/funky influence in modern contra. The klezmer/Romanian 123-123-12 has a different inflection to it - a different articulation - the late great Balkan dance/int'l folk dance teacher Dick Crum called it a "Get your Papers Here" rhythm - more of a 2;1,2;1,2 articulation than a 3;3;2 articulation. ...Unless the rhythm you're thinking of is the rock-n-roll boom-chuckboom-boomchuck - in which case we're back to the African influence... - Yaron On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 3:31 AM, Erik Hoffman via Musicians < musicians(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > Hi Max & All, > > Interesting that you learned the 3-3-2 rhythm as Klezmer. > > - Klezmer rhythm (123-123-12) > > > So many of the people I've studied from say the 3-3-2 came from Africa. It > has invaded many other genres. When I first learned about it (other than > the clave), it came at me three times in one year: > * A bunch of fiddle bowings used in Old-Time Appalachian tunes (highly > slave influenced) > * A doumbek rhythm (an Arabic drum) > * In hamboning--body rhythm with African roots, from when slaves had > their drums taken away. > __ > > Erik Hoffman > Oakland, CA > > > _______________________________________________ > Musicians mailing list > Musicians(a)lists.sharedweight.net > http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/musicians-sharedweight.net >

7 years, 9 months

Learning/sharing/remembering rhythms

by Emily Addison via Musicians

Hi fellow musicians. :) Up here in Ottawa, we just had a great workshop with David Kaynor and George Wilson.... .... it was all about non-melody for melody players. One of the ideas we talked about was playing rhythm - something very familiar to me as a contra piano player. The challenge we've had with our community band (10 people) is how to get everyone on the same 1-2 rhythms/grooves. When we do non-melody, it's everyone doing something different which sounds like a wall of sound. Do any of you have tricks for sharing rhythms? In particular, I liked the idea proposed by David in terms of having sentences that remind you of certain rhythms. But what I'd love is a chart showing names for different rhythms and related, where to emphasize beats or drop beats. Thoughts?? ??? ???? So much of what we do is intuitive but with a large group, there's only 2-3 of us working as a team right now. With thanks, Emily in Ottawa

7 years, 9 months

Re: [Musicians] Catapult 2017 looking for bands

by Catapult Showcase via Musicians

Due to too much merriment and not enough time over the winter holidays, the deadline for submitting band and caller applications for Catapult has been extended until January 6, 2017. Think about all those contra musicians and callers out there who dream of making it to the big time. Surely you know a few (maybe one of them is you), so point them towards Catapult for an opportunity to find fame and (figuratively) fortune on a national stage. www.catapultshowcase.com And while you're at it, mark Memorial Day 2017 (May 26-29) on your calendar to join us in Atlanta for the Catapult Showcase. Have an outstanding 2017 and beyond! ciao, rah Rob Harper 404-307-3444 > From: Rob Harper <thatrobharper(a)gmail.com> > Date: Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 10:55 PM > Subject: Catapult 2017 looking for bands > To: Musicians(a)lists.sharedweight.net > > > Any breakout bands out there ready for a chance to get out on the national > circuit? Catapult is built to help you along the way. > > A stage. > A fantastic collection of rising star callers. > A hall full of dancers and organizers excited to find the best > ready-to-be-discovered contra talent. > A spotlight. > > Memorial Day 2017. > > For all the details check out www.catapultshowcase.com. > > ciao, > rah > > -- > >

7 years, 11 months

Catapult 2017 looking for bands

by Rob Harper via Musicians

Any breakout bands out there ready for a chance to get out on the national circuit? Catapult is built to help you along the way. A stage. A fantastic collection of rising star callers. A hall full of dancers and organizers excited to find the best ready-to-be-discovered contra talent. A spotlight. Memorial Day 2017. For all the details check out www.catapultshowcase.com. ciao, rah -- Rob Harper thatrobharper(a)gmail.com (404) 307-3444

7 years, 12 months

For Canadian shared weight musician list members

by Emily Addison via Musicians

Dear Shared Weight Musician List, I know the list has been fairly quiet recently …. here's a message about a neat project relating to organizing dances. This message is for those of you who are CANADIANS and who not only play in dance bands but who are involved in ORGANIZING dances or other trad events. (Apologies to those for whom this doesn't apply.) *IN BRIEF:* The Country Dance and Song Society (CDSS) **wants to hear from you** as we look at *how to best support *local organizers* of traditional dance music and song throughout Canada*. We see local organizers like you as key to creating the vibrant and thriving traditional dance, music and song scenes we all care about! We are running a *survey of local organizers until November 17th*. The goal of the survey is to learn: What are you organizing? What successes are you having? What challenges do you face? What immediate needs do you have? What ideas have you thought of for growing your community/activities? What supports would help you in the work that you do? *WHY PARTICIPATE?* Whether you are involved in PEI fiddling, NFLD traditional song, Metis step dancing, or other (as there are so many!) each tradition is culturally significant. They reflect the shared values and heritage of that community and help to define a sense of identity and belonging for individuals. Yet despite the diversity, there is much commonality in the organizational requirements across traditions. For instance, organizers of a Cape Breton traditional square dance, contra dance in British Columbia, and les danses folkloique Québécoises often do similar work, share similar challenges and could benefit from similar supports. By sharing with each other, we create more vibrant and resilient communities for all. By participating in the survey, you are not only informing CDSS on what we can do to support organizers throughout the country, but also other umbrella arts organizations and the Canada Council for the Arts with whom we will be sharing the findings. We will work to take action on common interests that arise from the survey, some in partnership with other umbrella organizations and many of which would be free or at little cost. We will also look at ways to address various particular interests where we can. (As a participant, you will be emailed a copy of the findings.) *HOW TO PARTICIPATE:* Complete the online survey by Thursday, November 17th. It will take 15-20 minutes. SURVEY LINK HERE: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/CDSSCanadianOrganizers-EN We hope that multiple organizers from the same group will participate. Also - please share with other local organizers in your area. As you know, connections within our traditions are often by word-of-mouth! More information about the survey and larger project is available below. We look forward to hearing from you, *Emily Addison (pourparler list member) and also Sarah PilzerThe CDSS Canadian Initiative* =================================== *MORE INFORMATION ON THE SURVEY* *Who is an organizer ... for the purpose of this survey?* For the purpose of this survey, an organizer is anyone involved in making a traditional dance, music, or song event, activity, or community happen. The activities vary widely from house concerts to dances, folk clubs, song circles, group lessons, jam sessions, festivals, etc. Organizers can be volunteers OR paid, single individuals OR committees, part of a non-profit OR commercial business, new OR experienced, run one-off-events OR ongoing series - you name it! *What traditions are included ... for the purpose of this survey?* CDSS' core focus has been on traditions that have evolved in N America and/or those with English roots. For example, traditional square dancing from places like Cape Breton and Quebec fit well having evolved in N America. Think everything from morris teams, traditional song circles, old-time music jam sessions, step-dancing traditions from all over, folk clubs that present traditional music concerts, etc. AND - we are still very much interested in hearing and supporting the wider trad scene. Thus, if organizers involved in trad activities such as Irish set dancing, scandinavian jam sessions, or international folk want to participate, please do! *Who is CDSS?* CDSS has been a leader and partner of traditional dance, music, and song across North America for over a century. We provide services to members as well as the wider traditional dance, music and song community in Canada. If you're interested in knowing more, visit cdss.org

8 years, 1 month

Re: [Musicians] Musicians Digest, Vol 10, Issue 4

by Emily Addison via Musicians

Thanks Sue, Meg, and Max! I will get working on this... :) Emily On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 4:05 PM, via Musicians < musicians(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > Send Musicians mailing list submissions to > musicians(a)lists.sharedweight.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/musicians-sharedweight.net > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > musicians-request(a)lists.sharedweight.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > musicians-owner(a)lists.sharedweight.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Musicians digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Money Music Sheet Music (Susan Songer via Musicians) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2015 12:50:53 -0800 > From: Susan Songer via Musicians <musicians(a)lists.sharedweight.net> > To: <musicians(a)lists.sharedweight.net> > Subject: [Musicians] Money Music Sheet Music > Message-ID: <028b01d12955$508ef480$f1acdd80$@com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Most people I know use the sheet music in Randy Miller's New England > Fiddler's Repertoire as at least a starting point. The B part is plenty > "jumpy." > > > > Sue Songer > >

8 years, 11 months

Money Music Sheet Music

by Susan Songer via Musicians

Most people I know use the sheet music in Randy Miller's New England Fiddler's Repertoire as at least a starting point. The B part is plenty "jumpy." Sue Songer

8 years, 12 months

Re: [Musicians] Great version of monymusk?

by Meg Dedolph via Musicians

Hi Emily, The video Max sent is the one I was thinking of too. I asked my fiddler husband if there was anything especially unusual about Moneymusk, and he said some of the string crossings are a little tricky and it's not the most "comfortable" tune to play, especially in the B part. I think that's a feature of the tune, though. I don't know that a written out version exists that would be substantially different? As for making it inspiring, I think that's a matter of what the individual musicians decide to do with the tune? Maybe listening to a bunch of versions on YouTube and picking the ones you like best for being interesting is the way to go. There are plenty of tunes I didn't like when I heard one version, but loved when I heard another version. Good luck! Meg On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 1:03 PM Emily Addison via Musicians < musicians(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > Hi fellow contra musicians! > > Our community band has started working on monymusk but the version I have > (a contra version) isn't the easiest to play nor the most inspiring. > > Anyone have a good, jumpy, fun version they could share??? We're working > on our chestnuts here in Ottawa! > > Emily > _______________________________________________ > Musicians mailing list > Musicians(a)lists.sharedweight.net > http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/musicians-sharedweight.net >

8 years, 12 months

Re: [Musicians] Musicians Digest, Vol 10, Issue 1

by Emily Addison via Musicians

The video is awesome! But it's great sheet music that I'm looking for. (I did have sheep music typed...!) :) Emily On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 4:09 PM, via Musicians < musicians(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > Send Musicians mailing list submissions to > musicians(a)lists.sharedweight.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/musicians-sharedweight.net > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > musicians-request(a)lists.sharedweight.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > musicians-owner(a)lists.sharedweight.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Musicians digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Great version of monymusk? (Emily Addison via Musicians) > 2. Re: Great version of monymusk? (Max Newman via Musicians) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2015 14:03:17 -0500 > From: Emily Addison via Musicians <musicians(a)lists.sharedweight.net> > To: musicians(a)lists.sharedweight.net > Subject: [Musicians] Great version of monymusk? > Message-ID: > < > CAD7WKUWE59gNJAqoijWTezydzuShTd7wqSdCFuHNSxGQ2VoLGA(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi fellow contra musicians! > > Our community band has started working on monymusk but the version I have > (a contra version) isn't the easiest to play nor the most inspiring. > > Anyone have a good, jumpy, fun version they could share??? We're working on > our chestnuts here in Ottawa! > > Emily >

8 years, 12 months

Contra medley length?

by Susan Rachel Lorand via Musicians

I'm curious about other musicians' experiences with contra medleys, especially in relation to their length. I've played for quite a few 6x6 medleys (6 dances, done 6x each) and consider this a manageable length in a 4-person band (piano + 3 melody players), provided I remember not to play the entire time. Do any of you have experience with longer medleys? Have you played one that goes 30 minutes or longer? If so, how many musicians were in your group? What are your personal limits? Any experience alternating bands (or alternating individual musicians) in longer medleys? Thanks, Susie Lorand (fiddler), Ann Arbor, MI

9 years, 1 month

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