Hello fellow Shared Weight musicians,
The info below is primarily for organizers but I wanted to share it with
you as well given that many of you are organizers and/or you are also
connected to so many organizers.
[[[Note --> The Web Chat mentioned below is about OPEN DANCE BANDS!]]]
CDSS has just made a number of exciting announcements regarding new
resources that will support local organizers of traditional dance music and
song. If you are willing, please share this info with local organizers in
your network. We'd like to let as many people know about these resources
as possible and word-of-mouth is so powerful in the trad dance, music, and
song world.
- *US organizers survey report out now! *CDSS has just released a report
outlining the results the US organizers survey conducted this past spring.
Here's the link: https://www.cdss.org/community/us-organizers-survey
- *New e-blast for traditional dance music and song organizers: *The
goal of this free quarterly e-blast is to support, inspire, and connect
organizers.
Check out the first Shop Talk e-blast here: https://conta.cc/2PlKAEr
You can sign up to receive the e-blast at the bottom of the first Shop
Talk.
- *Online Organizer Resources Portal:* This is a very exciting initiative
that will hopefully add to the set of tools available to us all. The goal
of the Portal is to hold as many of the best resources as can be found
which will support local traditional dance, music, and song organizers in
their planning and decision making. For instance, visit this link to see
specific resources organized by topic:
https://www.cdss.org/resources/how-to/organizers-resources#resources-by-top…
BTW - As one of the individuals working on the Portal, I know that the
resource collection will only be as good as the resources it holds. ANNNND
I alos know that local organizers have so many of the best practices and
ideas already figured out. Thus, CDSS will be reaching out to local
organizers over the next number of months to collect resources that folks
want to share. If you're super excited about the initiative and want to
start sharing your local resources now, you can fill out this easy form:
https://www.cdss.org/share-your-resource
- *CDSS's next online web chat - "Creating a Thriving Open Band": *CDSS
held it's first web chat back in June which had to be capped because of the
high number of people wanting to register! The next web chat is September
20th and is focused on Creating a Thriving Open Band. More information on
the workshop and the registration form is located in the e-blast:
https://conta.cc/2PlKAEr
Note: I am sending this from my personal email account as I'm yet not
connect to shared weight through my CDSS account. However, if you'd like
to discuss Shop Talk (the eblast) or the Portal, please email me at
emily(a)cdss.org. If you have specific requests or want advice from CDSS,
please contact Linda Henry at linda(a)cdss.org.
With thanks!
Emily
Consultant @ CDSS working on organizer supports
PS - I have posted this on the Shared Weight organizers list and I will
also be posting it on the callers list as well as the ECD and Pourparler
lists as I'm guessing there will likely be interest there as well. Thus, if
you're on more than one list, apologies!
Folks,
Do any of you know of a program will run on a MacBook (under
OS X), listen to music through the built-in microphone, and
automatically detect and display the tempo in beats per minute
(of course occasionally updating the displayed number if the
music speeds up or slows down)?
Please note the specifics of my question and don't tell me that
I ought to be asking about an app that will run on, say, a phone
or tablet under iOS or Android. If you can recommend something
that runs on a MacBook with OS X and you happen to mention that
there are also iOS or Android or Windows versions of the same
product, that's fine. But I mainly want something for a MacBook.
Similarly, if whatever product you mention is also able to do
batch processing and produce tempo profiles from MP3 files,
WAV files, iTunes folders, URLs of YouTube videos, or whatever,
that would be nice to know, but I'm mainly interested in something
that can detect and display tempo by listening in real time (and
without needing the user to tap along with the beat). I'd also
be interested in knowing if the program could write updates of
the current tempo to a place where they could periodically be
read by some other process, such as a shell script, Python script,
Java or C program, etc.
Thanks.
--Jim
Hi fellow shared weight musicians,
I just put this message out on the organizers list-serve but I know some of
us musicians are also organizers so I wanted to share here with you. Plus
you know lots of organizers! (I'll also share with the callers group.)
============================================
Some of you may have heard about this but I wanted to share some exciting
organizer information from CDSS.
*Please share it with other organizers in your area! *This information is
for ANY traditional dance, music or song organizers (e.g., contra dance;
old time jam sessions; scandinavian dance; trad song circles; etc).
*SURVEY of TRADITIONAL DANCE, MUSIC and SONG ORGANIZERS in the US:*
CDSS wants to hear from you in order to inform their work in supporting
local organizers throughout the US! What you are organizing? What
challenges do you face? What support/connections would help you in the work
you do?
CDSS recently conducted a study of Canadian organizers (article here
<https://www.cdss.org/images/newsletter_archives/columns/CDSS_News_Spring_20…>)
and has taken the findings to further improve their support of local
organizers.
The US survey available until April 13th:
https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/DCSRMZG
Note that multiple individuals from the same organization can fill out the
survey.
Please share widely with organizers in many traditions!
*NEW CDSS E-MAIL BLASTS for ORGANIZERS*
CDSS has just launched a new organizer email newsletter to support local
organizers of traditional dance music and song. The e-news will be emailed
out four times a year. Expect notifications about new resources, upcoming
training opportunities, inspiring success stories and more.
To join the email list, click here:
https://visitor.r20.constantcontact.com/manage/optin?v=001l2jBILRzRVh_qG9X8…
Again - please spread widely!
Emily Addison
CDSS Canadian Initiative+
Hi Sue and others,
Thanks so much for sharing all these great perspectives on putting music
online/sharing. (I had a family issue to deal with this past month so
have been really slow on email - with apologies!)
Because our band is playing a lot of newer compositions, it sounds like the
safest thing is to not post online for other community bands to check out.
I like the idea of asking for permission first, I just don't have the time
at this current moment of life.
Perhaps I'll post our set lists and then if folks are interested, they can
email us.
Again, I know I've really really appreciated learning from what other
community bands have been playing and would like to give back to the
community in some way without negatively impacting composers.
Thanks again!
Emily Addison
Ottawa ON
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> Hi All--
>
> I have thought about this issue a lot. As David writes below, most
> composers
> are eager to have their music spread around and played--even those who have
> gone on to license their tunes through the various licensing organizations.
> However, some composers do not own the copyrights to their own tunes
> (especially in Scotland, where it is common for a music publisher to hold
> the copyright or in cases where the composer is deceased and the copyright
> is owned by the estate). And once in a while, a composer will not want
> his/her music posted online. Publishing companies are less likely to grant
> permission even though the tune in question might be easily found elsewhere
> on the web. Some composers want any publication of their tune to be exactly
> as they wrote it, not a particular version someone is playing.
>
> I do post tunes under copyright on websites but with limitations. As
> director of the Portland Megaband, I use the Megaband website to post the
> music that band members will be working on. Much of this is recent music.
> But the part of that site that contains the music is password
> protected--only available to current band members. We change the password
> every year. (I know of several other groups that use DropBox for this same
> purpose.) This is only scant protection for copyright holders because once
> someone has a music file in pdf format, it can go anywhere very easily. But
> it is better than having the music available for the world to download. In
> some cases, I contact the composer before we post to the Megaband site. If
> I
> have made any substantial changes to the tune, such as changing the key, or
> in once case the meter, I always contact the composer before using the tune
> in the Megaband. So far, everyone has given permission.
>
> I also post tunes on the Portland Collection website (am WAY behind in that
> endeavor). Those tunes are available to everyone without limitation. In the
> case of tunes under copyright, I obtain the composer's permission before
> posting. If I were ever to post an arrangement of a tune specific to a
> band/recording, I would obtain permission from the artists before posting
> on
> the Portland Collection site. These extra steps make me feel better about
> posting music on the web.
>
> Sue Songer
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2017 11:45:56 -0400
> From: David A Kaynor <davidkaynor(a)mac.com>
> To: A musician's discussion list <musicians(a)sharedweight.net>
> Subject: Re: [Musicians] A question about sharing music notation
> online
> Message-ID: <37E38D07-380D-40A6-96A9-6057E6F16465(a)mac.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> There are a lot of opinions and wishes out there. Here are mine, about
> publishing transcriptions of my compositions:
>
> I wish more people liked and played my tunes!
>
> I?d love to have transcriptions of my tunes out in the realms of folk and
> contra dance music. If my name, as composer, is on the transcriptions,
> GREAT! If not ? oh, well.
>
> It?s at least possible that someone with questionable taste (not to mention
> questionable values) might claim composership of something I made up, but
> it?s not keeping me awake at night. For one thing, documentation exists
> for
> everything I?ve composed. For another, even if someone did succeed in
> ?stealing? composership of something I made up, the people who really
> matter
> to me know the score, as it were.
>
> Except for The Montague Processional, none of my tunes are licensed, thus
> can be played in venues which don?t purchase licenses from ASCAP and BMI.
>
> Unless I manage to compose some tunes which more people find more
> interesting, all of the above is kind of moot ?
>
> David Kaynor
>
> > On Oct 30, 2017, at 10:49 AM, Emily Addison via Musicians
> <musicians(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > A question for you about general etiquette on posting recently composed
> tunes (as in last 20-30yrs).
> >
> > I've seen MANY MANY recently composed tunes online through websites like
> The Session but also contra websites too. Often these are posted by
> someone
> other than the composer and it's not listed as to whether they have
> permission to post.
> >
> > Here in Ottawa, our community band (we're not pros and play almost all
> our
> gigs for free.), we're working on learning a varied contra music repertoire
> for dancing. In fact, our community band is called 'Stolen Goods' as we're
> about learning from others.
> >
> > I've been thinking that it would be nice to post our sets online as part
> of the wider sharing so that others can benefit... just like we've
> benefited
> from looking at what others (like SPUDS) have posted.
> >
> > What's the etiquette here?
> >
> > For instance, we play a handful of Keith Murphy tunes and he's got books.
> And we have Larry Unger and others too...
> >
> > If we post a few is that ok? Seems that's what others do, especially in
> irish and quebecois traditions but I'm just not sure as some of the contra
> musicians have tune books. Could refer to a few tune books.
> >
> > Also, we've written out a few sets from other bands (e.g., one from Wild
> Asparagus) as we're trying to learn from their groove/chord lines etc. and
> we are just a local learning band that plays for 20 dancers. If we only
> have 1-2 from a particular band, are those ok to post?
> >
> > Looking for your thoughts!
> >
> > By no means do I need to post of course... ... .just interested in giving
> back to the wider community what we've been learning over the last number
> of
> years.
> >
> > With thanks :)
> > Emily Addison in Ottawa
> > _______________________________________________
> > Musicians mailing list
> > Musicians(a)lists.sharedweight.net
> > http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/musicians-sharedweight.net
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2017 11:48:18 -0400
> From: Sarah Gowan <ladysmyth(a)rcn.com>
> To: Emily Addison <emilyladdison(a)gmail.com>
> Cc: musicians(a)sharedweight.net
> Subject: Re: [Musicians] A question about sharing music notation
> online
> Message-ID: <A8B63A9B-6ADF-4FC4-AE0F-A78588652135(a)rcn.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Hi Emily-
>
> I?m the curator of the SPUDS online tune library - I?m so happy to hear
> other groups find our site useful! It?s my policy to ask composers (if
> known) if we have permission to post their tunes. Some, like Bob McQuillen,
> gave us free reign to arrange them how we wish and freely post any of their
> tunes. Others prefer only certain tunes or ask that we include contact and
> licensing information. Beware that trad tunes aren?t necessarily exempt.
> Some people are very proprietary about their arrangements. I removed a
> version of a traditional tune from one of my sites because a musician
> recognized his arrangement and wanted credit. I didn?t get it from his
> book,
> but also didn?t want the hassle, so it was easier to simply take it down
> and
> use a different version.
>
> If there are a hundred versions of a tune online already, I generally don?t
> get too anxious about reposting. If there are none or maybe one, I
> definitely ask. You can?t assume that because one site has posted them,
> that
> it?s ok for you to do the same. Some groups, like Princeton, avoid
> copyright
> problems by password-protecting access to their files so only group members
> can use them. They still ask composers if it?s ok to post, though.
>
> >From the composer side - I?ve had people post some of my compositions and
> the only time I get annoyed is when they don?t include my name or try to
> sell them. (Yes that really happened). But I make most of my tunes freely
> available online anyway and I?m not trying to make a living as a musician.
>
> Hope this is helpful,
>
> Sarah
> https://www.thursdaycontra.com/~spuds/TuneLinks.html
>
> > On Oct 30, 2017, at 10:49 AM, Emily Addison via Musicians
> <musicians(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > A question for you about general etiquette on posting recently composed
> tunes (as in last 20-30yrs).
> >
> > I've seen MANY MANY recently composed tunes online through websites like
> The Session but also contra websites too. Often these are posted by
> someone
> other than the composer and it's not listed as to whether they have
> permission to post.
> >
> > Here in Ottawa, our community band (we're not pros and play almost all
> our
> gigs for free.), we're working on learning a varied contra music repertoire
> for dancing. In fact, our community band is called 'Stolen Goods' as we're
> about learning from others.
> >
> > I've been thinking that it would be nice to post our sets online as part
> of the wider sharing so that others can benefit... just like we've
> benefited
> from looking at what others (like SPUDS) have posted.
> >
> > What's the etiquette here?
> >
> > For instance, we play a handful of Keith Murphy tunes and he's got books.
> And we have Larry Unger and others too...
> >
> > If we post a few is that ok? Seems that's what others do, especially in
> irish and quebecois traditions but I'm just not sure as some of the contra
> musicians have tune books. Could refer to a few tune books.
> >
> > Also, we've written out a few sets from other bands (e.g., one from Wild
> Asparagus) as we're trying to learn from their groove/chord lines etc. and
> we are just a local learning band that plays for 20 dancers. If we only
> have 1-2 from a particular band, are those ok to post?
> >
> > Looking for your thoughts!
> >
> > By no means do I need to post of course... ... .just interested in giving
> back to the wider community what we've been learning over the last number
> of
> years.
> >
> > With thanks :)
> > Emily Addison in Ottawa
> > _______________________________________________
> > Musicians mailing list
> > Musicians(a)lists.sharedweight.net
> > http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/musicians-sharedweight.net
>
If you are a contra musician who is visiting San Diego over Christmas and would like to play a contra gig on the evening of Dec 23rd, please contact Chris Page above. We have some local musicians who could possibly join you, depending on what you play. We would probably be in most need of a guitar/bass/piano to provide the rhythm for the band, though we might be able to scare up a rhythm player and a mando or banjo if you are a fiddler. (Or vv). Thanks!!!!
Martha
Hi All,
One more question from me! This one about another Chestnut Dance... Hull's
Victory.
The first tune we plan to do is Hull's Victory which makes sense. :) :)
However I'd like to do another tune after and Ross's Reel #4 sounds really
good. ... ... my concern is I think this has been associated with another
chestnut dance??? ???
Thoughts?
And any tunes you traditionally associate with Hull's Victory (the dance)?
Thanks!
Emily
Hi All--
I have thought about this issue a lot. As David writes below, most composers
are eager to have their music spread around and played--even those who have
gone on to license their tunes through the various licensing organizations.
However, some composers do not own the copyrights to their own tunes
(especially in Scotland, where it is common for a music publisher to hold
the copyright or in cases where the composer is deceased and the copyright
is owned by the estate). And once in a while, a composer will not want
his/her music posted online. Publishing companies are less likely to grant
permission even though the tune in question might be easily found elsewhere
on the web. Some composers want any publication of their tune to be exactly
as they wrote it, not a particular version someone is playing.
I do post tunes under copyright on websites but with limitations. As
director of the Portland Megaband, I use the Megaband website to post the
music that band members will be working on. Much of this is recent music.
But the part of that site that contains the music is password
protected--only available to current band members. We change the password
every year. (I know of several other groups that use DropBox for this same
purpose.) This is only scant protection for copyright holders because once
someone has a music file in pdf format, it can go anywhere very easily. But
it is better than having the music available for the world to download. In
some cases, I contact the composer before we post to the Megaband site. If I
have made any substantial changes to the tune, such as changing the key, or
in once case the meter, I always contact the composer before using the tune
in the Megaband. So far, everyone has given permission.
I also post tunes on the Portland Collection website (am WAY behind in that
endeavor). Those tunes are available to everyone without limitation. In the
case of tunes under copyright, I obtain the composer's permission before
posting. If I were ever to post an arrangement of a tune specific to a
band/recording, I would obtain permission from the artists before posting on
the Portland Collection site. These extra steps make me feel better about
posting music on the web.
Sue Songer
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Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2017 11:45:56 -0400
From: David A Kaynor <davidkaynor(a)mac.com>
To: A musician's discussion list <musicians(a)sharedweight.net>
Subject: Re: [Musicians] A question about sharing music notation
online
Message-ID: <37E38D07-380D-40A6-96A9-6057E6F16465(a)mac.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
There are a lot of opinions and wishes out there. Here are mine, about
publishing transcriptions of my compositions:
I wish more people liked and played my tunes!
I?d love to have transcriptions of my tunes out in the realms of folk and
contra dance music. If my name, as composer, is on the transcriptions,
GREAT! If not ? oh, well.
It?s at least possible that someone with questionable taste (not to mention
questionable values) might claim composership of something I made up, but
it?s not keeping me awake at night. For one thing, documentation exists for
everything I?ve composed. For another, even if someone did succeed in
?stealing? composership of something I made up, the people who really matter
to me know the score, as it were.
Except for The Montague Processional, none of my tunes are licensed, thus
can be played in venues which don?t purchase licenses from ASCAP and BMI.
Unless I manage to compose some tunes which more people find more
interesting, all of the above is kind of moot ?
David Kaynor
> On Oct 30, 2017, at 10:49 AM, Emily Addison via Musicians
<musicians(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> A question for you about general etiquette on posting recently composed
tunes (as in last 20-30yrs).
>
> I've seen MANY MANY recently composed tunes online through websites like
The Session but also contra websites too. Often these are posted by someone
other than the composer and it's not listed as to whether they have
permission to post.
>
> Here in Ottawa, our community band (we're not pros and play almost all our
gigs for free.), we're working on learning a varied contra music repertoire
for dancing. In fact, our community band is called 'Stolen Goods' as we're
about learning from others.
>
> I've been thinking that it would be nice to post our sets online as part
of the wider sharing so that others can benefit... just like we've benefited
from looking at what others (like SPUDS) have posted.
>
> What's the etiquette here?
>
> For instance, we play a handful of Keith Murphy tunes and he's got books.
And we have Larry Unger and others too...
>
> If we post a few is that ok? Seems that's what others do, especially in
irish and quebecois traditions but I'm just not sure as some of the contra
musicians have tune books. Could refer to a few tune books.
>
> Also, we've written out a few sets from other bands (e.g., one from Wild
Asparagus) as we're trying to learn from their groove/chord lines etc. and
we are just a local learning band that plays for 20 dancers. If we only
have 1-2 from a particular band, are those ok to post?
>
> Looking for your thoughts!
>
> By no means do I need to post of course... ... .just interested in giving
back to the wider community what we've been learning over the last number of
years.
>
> With thanks :)
> Emily Addison in Ottawa
> _______________________________________________
> Musicians mailing list
> Musicians(a)lists.sharedweight.net
> http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/musicians-sharedweight.net
------------------------------
Message: 2
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2017 11:48:18 -0400
From: Sarah Gowan <ladysmyth(a)rcn.com>
To: Emily Addison <emilyladdison(a)gmail.com>
Cc: musicians(a)sharedweight.net
Subject: Re: [Musicians] A question about sharing music notation
online
Message-ID: <A8B63A9B-6ADF-4FC4-AE0F-A78588652135(a)rcn.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Hi Emily-
I?m the curator of the SPUDS online tune library - I?m so happy to hear
other groups find our site useful! It?s my policy to ask composers (if
known) if we have permission to post their tunes. Some, like Bob McQuillen,
gave us free reign to arrange them how we wish and freely post any of their
tunes. Others prefer only certain tunes or ask that we include contact and
licensing information. Beware that trad tunes aren?t necessarily exempt.
Some people are very proprietary about their arrangements. I removed a
version of a traditional tune from one of my sites because a musician
recognized his arrangement and wanted credit. I didn?t get it from his book,
but also didn?t want the hassle, so it was easier to simply take it down and
use a different version.
If there are a hundred versions of a tune online already, I generally don?t
get too anxious about reposting. If there are none or maybe one, I
definitely ask. You can?t assume that because one site has posted them, that
it?s ok for you to do the same. Some groups, like Princeton, avoid copyright
problems by password-protecting access to their files so only group members
can use them. They still ask composers if it?s ok to post, though.
>From the composer side - I?ve had people post some of my compositions and
the only time I get annoyed is when they don?t include my name or try to
sell them. (Yes that really happened). But I make most of my tunes freely
available online anyway and I?m not trying to make a living as a musician.
Hope this is helpful,
Sarah
https://www.thursdaycontra.com/~spuds/TuneLinks.html
> On Oct 30, 2017, at 10:49 AM, Emily Addison via Musicians
<musicians(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> A question for you about general etiquette on posting recently composed
tunes (as in last 20-30yrs).
>
> I've seen MANY MANY recently composed tunes online through websites like
The Session but also contra websites too. Often these are posted by someone
other than the composer and it's not listed as to whether they have
permission to post.
>
> Here in Ottawa, our community band (we're not pros and play almost all our
gigs for free.), we're working on learning a varied contra music repertoire
for dancing. In fact, our community band is called 'Stolen Goods' as we're
about learning from others.
>
> I've been thinking that it would be nice to post our sets online as part
of the wider sharing so that others can benefit... just like we've benefited
from looking at what others (like SPUDS) have posted.
>
> What's the etiquette here?
>
> For instance, we play a handful of Keith Murphy tunes and he's got books.
And we have Larry Unger and others too...
>
> If we post a few is that ok? Seems that's what others do, especially in
irish and quebecois traditions but I'm just not sure as some of the contra
musicians have tune books. Could refer to a few tune books.
>
> Also, we've written out a few sets from other bands (e.g., one from Wild
Asparagus) as we're trying to learn from their groove/chord lines etc. and
we are just a local learning band that plays for 20 dancers. If we only
have 1-2 from a particular band, are those ok to post?
>
> Looking for your thoughts!
>
> By no means do I need to post of course... ... .just interested in giving
back to the wider community what we've been learning over the last number of
years.
>
> With thanks :)
> Emily Addison in Ottawa
> _______________________________________________
> Musicians mailing list
> Musicians(a)lists.sharedweight.net
> http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/musicians-sharedweight.net
Emily,
Ross's Reel #4 seems a good change tune for Hull's Victory to me, and
Cracking Chestnuts (David Smuckler and David Millstone's excellent book)
agrees - they specifically mention that the melody emphasizes balances in
the same part of the dance as Hull's Victory.
The book in question is available from CDSS, and is a great resource!
https://www.cdss.org/vm-store/books/cracking-chestnuts-detail
Cheers,
Tim Ball
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> From: Emily Addison <emilyladdison(a)gmail.com>
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> Wonderful Erik!
> I'll dig up Saddle the Pony.
> As well as us doing lots of modern things, we'd like to work up 5-6
> Chestnuts and play them within the tradition. :) :)
> Emily
>
> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 10:39 AM, Erik Hoffman <erik(a)erikhoffman.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> >
> >
> > It is traditional to play the tune. In the old days it would have been
> > just the tune. When medlies became normal, the modern standard is:
> > Signature Tune, Other Tune, last two or three times: Signature Tune
> again.
> >
> >
> >
> > Saddle the Pony has been used by a number of bands, since it was used as
> > an alternate tune on the New England Chestnuts LP.
> >
> >
> >
> > BTW: I?m glad you?re doing this. I always find it funny when callers say,
> > ?as in Rory O?More,? and when I look around I find 99 percent of the
> people
> > have no idea what Rory O?More is?
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > ~Erik
> >
> >
> >
> > *From:* Musicians [mailto:musicians-bounces@lists.sharedweight.net] *On
> > Behalf Of *Emily Addison via Musicians
> > *Sent:* Monday, October 30, 2017 7:49 AM
> > *To:* musicians(a)sharedweight.net
> > *Subject:* [Musicians] A question about sharing music notation online
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> >
> >
> > A question for you about general etiquette on posting recently composed
> > tunes (as in last 20-30yrs).
> >
> >
> >
> > I've seen MANY MANY recently composed tunes online through websites like
> > The Session but also contra websites too. Often these are posted by
> > someone other than the composer and it's not listed as to whether they
> have
> > permission to post.
> >
> >
> >
> > Here in Ottawa, our community band (we're not pros and play almost all
> our
> > gigs for free.), we're working on learning a varied contra music
> repertoire
> > for dancing. In fact, our community band is called 'Stolen Goods' as
> we're
> > about learning from others.
> >
> >
> >
> > I've been thinking that it would be nice to post our sets online as part
> > of the wider sharing so that others can benefit... just like we've
> > benefited from looking at what others (like SPUDS) have posted.
> >
> >
> >
> > What's the etiquette here?
> >
> >
> >
> > For instance, we play a handful of Keith Murphy tunes and he's got books.
> > And we have Larry Unger and others too...
> >
> >
> >
> > If we post a few is that ok? Seems that's what others do, especially in
> > irish and quebecois traditions but I'm just not sure as some of the
> contra
> > musicians have tune books. Could refer to a few tune books.
> >
> >
> >
> > Also, we've written out a few sets from other bands (e.g., one from Wild
> > Asparagus) as we're trying to learn from their groove/chord lines etc.
> and
> > we are just a local learning band that plays for 20 dancers. If we only
> > have 1-2 from a particular band, are those ok to post?
> >
> >
> >
> > Looking for your thoughts!
> >
> >
> >
> > By no means do I need to post of course... ... .just interested in giving
> > back to the wider community what we've been learning over the last number
> > of years.
> >
> >
> >
> > With thanks :)
> >
> > Emily Addison in Ottawa
> >
>
Hi All,
A question for you about general etiquette on posting recently composed
tunes (as in last 20-30yrs).
I've seen MANY MANY recently composed tunes online through websites like
The Session but also contra websites too. Often these are posted by
someone other than the composer and it's not listed as to whether they have
permission to post.
Here in Ottawa, our community band (we're not pros and play almost all our
gigs for free.), we're working on learning a varied contra music repertoire
for dancing. In fact, our community band is called 'Stolen Goods' as we're
about learning from others.
I've been thinking that it would be nice to post our sets online as part of
the wider sharing so that others can benefit... just like we've benefited
from looking at what others (like SPUDS) have posted.
What's the etiquette here?
For instance, we play a handful of Keith Murphy tunes and he's got books.
And we have Larry Unger and others too...
If we post a few is that ok? Seems that's what others do, especially in
irish and quebecois traditions but I'm just not sure as some of the contra
musicians have tune books. Could refer to a few tune books.
Also, we've written out a few sets from other bands (e.g., one from Wild
Asparagus) as we're trying to learn from their groove/chord lines etc. and
we are just a local learning band that plays for 20 dancers. If we only
have 1-2 from a particular band, are those ok to post?
Looking for your thoughts!
By no means do I need to post of course... ... .just interested in giving
back to the wider community what we've been learning over the last number
of years.
With thanks :)
Emily Addison in Ottawa
I have another question today!
This is about Rory O'More the dance.
Our community band is thinking about playing for this dance and we'd start
with Rory O'More the tune.
However, I'm wondering... is it tradition for there to be a second tune or
do bands always stay on Rory O'More? If they do change, any suggested
tunes that might be common?
I'd like to stay with the tradition with this one!
Thanks :)
Emily
