Hi Luke,
In my case I'm usually looking for a pair or sometimes a trio of factors -
a specific semi-distinctive move (hey, petronella, etc), a
mood/feel/energy/emotion, and sometimes a difficulty. I'm not normally on a
blind search unless I know what hole I need to fill but don't have a dance
that addresses it. I can usually search online dance dumps for distinct
moves and often dance difficulty, but it's harder to search by mood or feel
of a dance...
It's also frustratingly difficult to to a negative search when trying to
find the right dances as well - being able to look for dances with X that
don't have Y would be invaluable (full hey, no LLFB, for example).
Regardless of the format, I love getting other dances from folks and
compositions published online are the #1 way things end up in my box. Let
me know what you settle on - I'm not particularly happy with the format I'm
using at the moment either.
All the best,
Isaac Banner
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On Sat, Nov 4, 2017, 8:26 PM Luke Donforth via Callers <
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> Hi Folks,
>
> I currently have a terrible system for publishing dances I've written on
> the web (blog-esque thing in wordpress; really hard to search through).
> There's been talk on and off of a big database of dances, but that doesn't
> seem to be happening so I thought I should do something for mine.
>
> I'm contemplating better ways of making dances my compositions more
> accessible; and since that would be for other people, I'm curious what's
> useful for other people.
>
> I'm envisioning four categories of dances; and then just lists of dances
> (title & sequence) on those pages. The categories I had in mind:
> Family dances
> Glossary contras
> Unique contras
> Odd formations
>
> Are there separate things you'd want to see in a list of dances when
> you're going through? Beckets, Closing dances, bouncy/smooth, etc.
>
> I've gotten really attached to Callers Companion (
> http://callerscompanion.com/), and really like how it lets searches
> happen on dances. Anyone have a good way to incorporate that, or the type
> of element checklist/flag it provides, into a web-based interface for
> dances?
>
> It might also be that most folks don't collect dances from websites; and
> this is wasted time. But it does seem like I've obfuscated finding my
> compositions, and I regret not making them more available.
>
> Thoughts, opinions, experience, and advice appreciated.
>
> Thanks!
>
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Hi Folks,
I currently have a terrible system for publishing dances I've written on
the web (blog-esque thing in wordpress; really hard to search through).
There's been talk on and off of a big database of dances, but that doesn't
seem to be happening so I thought I should do something for mine.
I'm contemplating better ways of making dances my compositions more
accessible; and since that would be for other people, I'm curious what's
useful for other people.
I'm envisioning four categories of dances; and then just lists of dances
(title & sequence) on those pages. The categories I had in mind:
Family dances
Glossary contras
Unique contras
Odd formations
Are there separate things you'd want to see in a list of dances when you're
going through? Beckets, Closing dances, bouncy/smooth, etc.
I've gotten really attached to Callers Companion (
http://callerscompanion.com/), and really like how it lets searches happen
on dances. Anyone have a good way to incorporate that, or the type of
element checklist/flag it provides, into a web-based interface for dances?
It might also be that most folks don't collect dances from websites; and
this is wasted time. But it does seem like I've obfuscated finding my
compositions, and I regret not making them more available.
Thoughts, opinions, experience, and advice appreciated.
Thanks!
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Luke Donforth
Luke.Donforth(a)gmail.com <Luke.Donev(a)gmail.com>
thanks all, for your input. I'm off to call one of these dances...stay
tuned!
Mary "24"
“Life is not about waiting for the storms to pass ... it's about learning
to dance in the rain!” ~ Unknown
On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 4:02 PM, Luke Donforth via Callers <
callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> Vallimont's Silver Hammer came out in May of 2016. The dance came out of a
> conversation with the talented musician Julie Vallimont about closing sets;
> and how callers like dances that end with swings but bands often have
> something that builds to a big hit at the A to B transition in the music. I
> was trying to put a balance at the top of the B1 & B2, and ending with a
> partner swing. Yes, the Beatles reference is deliberate.
>
> The dance that I call Vallimont's Silver Hammer is
>
>
> *Vallimont's Silver Hammer*
> *by Luke Donforth*
> Becket
> A1
> Circle Left
> Neighbor Swing
> A2
> Promenade across with neighbor
> Ladies chain to partner
> B1
> Right to neighbor, balance and pull by; pull by partner left
> shadow DSD 1x
> B2
> Partner Balance and Swing
> slide left
>
> Note, I'd originally posited another dance as Vallimont's Silver Hammer;
> but it turned out that Bob Isaacs had already written and named that one;
> so I wrote Julie a different one. That dance:
>
>
> *Return 2 Sender*
> *by Bob Isaacs*Becket
> A1
> Circle left 3/4
> Neighbor swing
> A2
> Gents start hey for 4 by left
> B1
> Right to neighbor (women back to back in middle), balance and box gnat
> Pull by right, women allemande left 1 1/2
> B2
> Partner balance and swing
> Slide left
>
> So Mary Collins, please make sure that the dance you have isn't actually
> Bob's with a different name; since I may have caused some confusion over
> the names back then.
>
> Both my dance and Chris Weiler's Vallimont's Steamboat pay homage to the
> same Julie Vallimont (I don't know how many there are out there, but it's
> the same one). His happens to have a long lines at the top of B1 (which
> Julie also considers acceptable for closing sets) and ends with a partner
> swing. Some day we may put together a whole set of Vallimont :-)
>
> And what I've gotten from this thread is I've got to get around to making
> a better website for listing my dances. My Mad Robin blog is fun for
> discussion, but terrible for finding things.
>
> Happy Dancing!
>
> On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 1:25 PM, Don Heinold via Callers <
> callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi Friends,
>>
>> "Vallimont's Steamboat" is a fine dance and was written by Chris Weiler
>> and you can find it on his site here..
>> http://caller.chrisweiler.ws/dances.htm#vallimonts
>>
>> Don Heinold, RI Caller
>>
>>
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>> *From:* Angela DeCarlis via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net>
>> *To:* frannie <dancingfrannie(a)gmail.com>
>> *Cc:* callers <Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 2, 2017 12:33 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [Callers] Vallimont's Silver Hammer
>>
>> Vallimont's Steamboat is the dance written for musician Julie Vallimont,
>> to the tune Vladimir's Steamboat. I imagine this has something to do with
>> it, but of course Luke will be chiming in before long with the *actual*
>> story, I'm sure.
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 12:06 PM, frannie via Callers <
>> callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>>
>> Luke Donforth
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 8:59 AM, Mary Collins via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.
>> net <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net>> wrote:
>>
>> Have the dance, not the author....
>>
>> And...any anecdotal information.
>>
>> Thanks all!!
>>
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Hi Friends,
"Vallimont's Steamboat" is a fine dance and was written by Chris Weiler and you can find it on his site here..http://caller.chrisweiler.ws/dances.htm#vallimonts
Don Heinold, RI Caller
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To: frannie <dancingfrannie(a)gmail.com>
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Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2017 12:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Callers] Vallimont's Silver Hammer
Vallimont's Steamboat is the dance written for musician Julie Vallimont, to the tune Vladimir's Steamboat. I imagine this has something to do with it, but of course Luke will be chiming in before long with the *actual* story, I'm sure.
On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 12:06 PM, frannie via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Luke Donforth
On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 8:59 AM, Mary Collins via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight. net> wrote:
Have the dance, not the author....
And...any anecdotal information.
Thanks all!!
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Love it!
On Nov 2, 2017 12:33 PM, "Angela DeCarlis" <aedecarlis(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Vallimont's Steamboat is the dance written for musician Julie Vallimont,
> to the tune Vladimir's Steamboat. I imagine this has something to do with
> it, but of course Luke will be chiming in before long with the *actual*
> story, I'm sure.
>
> On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 12:06 PM, frannie via Callers <
> callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>
>> Luke Donforth
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 8:59 AM, Mary Collins via Callers <
>> callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Have the dance, not the author....
>>>
>>> And...any anecdotal information.
>>>
>>> Thanks all!!
>>>
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>>
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>> Frannie
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>
Vallimont's Steamboat is the dance written for musician Julie Vallimont, to
the tune Vladimir's Steamboat. I imagine this has something to do with it,
but of course Luke will be chiming in before long with the *actual* story,
I'm sure.
On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 12:06 PM, frannie via Callers <
callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
> Luke Donforth
>
> On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 8:59 AM, Mary Collins via Callers <
> callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>
>> Have the dance, not the author....
>>
>> And...any anecdotal information.
>>
>> Thanks all!!
>>
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On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 8:59 AM, Mary Collins via Callers <
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> Have the dance, not the author....
>
> And...any anecdotal information.
>
> Thanks all!!
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Whilst trawling the archives, I came across Andrea Nettleton's description
of a California (or Nevada) Roll:
"*Partners take the handy hand, which is the Lady's R, the Gent's L, lift
joined hands, the lady curls in toward her partner and walks under while he
walks past, to swap, reverse direction, and face New Nbrs. Not yet proper,
they immediately do a Roll Away with a Half Sashay to swap places but
continue to face the New Neighbors*"
I was fascinated by this idea of this move, so tried it out with some of my
more experienced dancers. They struggled, mostly because the "Nevada
Twirl" (reverse California Twirl) is unusual for them, and the subsequent
roll away is "the wrong way round".
I still liked the move though, so I thought about doing the easier version
(California Twirl and Roll Away). After a few false starts, I realised
that the best way to use it was in a dance where the couples start "the
wrong way round", i.e. 1s proper, 2s improper - a formation I know as
"Indecent". So I came up with:
Indecent Proposal, by Jeremy Child
Formation: Indecent (longways duple minor, 2s improper)
A1: Neighbour Dosido & Swing
A2: Ladies Chain, Ladies pass R shoulder to Start a Hey for 4
B1: Finish the Hey, Partner Swing
B2: Circle Left 3/4, California Twirl & Roll Away across the set
Is this a new dance, or is there something already out there that's similar?
Jeremy
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