As a general comment, I actively dislike dances that try and squeeze
circle left 1 & 1/4 into eight beats.
One dance I was in (Dancing and the Road to Hell) led to arguments on
the dance floor.
-Chris Page
San Diego, CA
On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 1:54 PM, via Callers
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> Not sure if this has already been written, but it fits a particular spot in
> an upcoming program:
>
> A1 LL FB
> Circle L 1.25 to face P on side
>
> A2 DSD P, Swing P
> (or Balance and Swing P)
>
> B1 LL FB
> Circle L .75 to face N on side
>
> B2 DSD N, Swing N
> (or Balance and Swing N)
>
> Thanks for any enlightenment!
>
> Ann in hot, humid, Annapolis, MD
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For reference, Greetings goes:
N B+S
LLFB
Ladies Alle 1.5
P B+S
LLFB
Circle L 3/4, pass thru.
On Jul 19, 2016 5:02 PM, wrote:
> No, but the timing on the circles will confuse some.
>
> But if you want 2 long lines, DSD and swing with both partner and
> neighbor, you could do:
>
> Duple Imp
> A1. N DSD (6)
> NS (10)
> A2. LLFB (8)
> Circle L 3/4 (8, forgiving)
> B1. P DSD (6)
> PS (10)
> B2. LLFB (8)
> Circle L 3/4, Pass Thru By R (6,2)
>
> So... has *this* already been written?
> Similar to Greetings, by Tori Barrone.
>
> Ron Blechner
>
> On Jul 19, 2016 4:54 PM, "via Callers" <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net>
> wrote:
>
> Not sure if this has already been written, but it fits a particular spot
> in an upcoming program:
>
> A1 LL FB
> Circle L 1.25 to face P on side
>
> A2 DSD P, Swing P
> (or Balance and Swing P)
>
> B1 LL FB
> Circle L .75 to face N on side
>
> B2 DSD N, Swing N
> (or Balance and Swing N)
>
> Thanks for any enlightenment!
>
> Ann in hot, humid, Annapolis, MD
>
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No, but the timing on the circles will confuse some.
But if you want 2 long lines, DSD and swing with both partner and neighbor,
you could do:
Duple Imp
A1. N DSD (6)
NS (10)
A2. LLFB (8)
Circle L 3/4 (8, forgiving)
B1. P DSD (6)
PS (10)
B2. LLFB (8)
Circle L 3/4, Pass Thru By R (6,2)
So... has *this* already been written?
Similar to Greetings, by Tori Barrone.
Ron Blechner
On Jul 19, 2016 4:54 PM, "via Callers" <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net>
wrote:
Not sure if this has already been written, but it fits a particular spot
in an upcoming program:
A1 LL FB
Circle L 1.25 to face P on side
A2 DSD P, Swing P
(or Balance and Swing P)
B1 LL FB
Circle L .75 to face N on side
B2 DSD N, Swing N
(or Balance and Swing N)
Thanks for any enlightenment!
Ann in hot, humid, Annapolis, MD
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Leaving out the long lines, and moving things around a bit, your dance is very similar to the following, by Orace Johnson.
Cheers, Linda
Midwest Folklore
Contra/Becket
A1 -----------
Circle left three-quarters
Neighbor do si do
A2 -----------
Neighbor Balance and Swing
B1 -----------
Circle left three-quarters
Partner Do si do
B2 -----------
Partner Balance and Swing
(look left and slide left to a new couple)
On Jul 19, 2016, at 4:54 PM, via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
> Not sure if this has already been written, but it fits a particular spot in an upcoming program:
>
> A1 LL FB
> Circle L 1.25 to face P on side
>
> A2 DSD P, Swing P
> (or Balance and Swing P)
>
> B1 LL FB
> Circle L .75 to face N on side
>
> B2 DSD N, Swing N
> (or Balance and Swing N)
>
> Thanks for any enlightenment!
>
> Ann in hot, humid, Annapolis, MD
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On Mon, Jul 18, 2016, Maia McCormick via Callers wrote:
>
> Chinese New Year by Chris Page || improper (adv'd)
> Starts in long waves, gents face out, Ns by R
> A1: bal. wave & box circulate (2x) (LX G loop; GX L loop)
> A2: bal. wave & box circulate (LX G loop)
What are "LX G loop" and "GX L loop"?
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I frequently roll swap with my partners on Californiatwirls and Petronella twirls as well.
However, when I have had neighbors do a longlines partner swap, I have felt abandoned as they discard my hand in the middleof the move. Is there a way execute thisswap without interfering with whole-set connection of long lines?
Date:Tue, 5 Jul 2016 18:57:33 -0400
From: Alexandra Deis-Lauby via Callers
>Also, if you find you are teaching to peoplewho are doing well with both
>roles,and want to learn when they can switch within a dance other than in
>aswing, the easiest places are in Long lines if one is across from your
>partner,(do like a hole-in-the wall gypsy), in Long lines, if one is next
>toyour partner (add a roll away) and then adding or subtracting a 1/2 turn
>in anallemande or do si do w/ partner.
Mark PigmanTacoma, WA
Hi Luke, thanks for a great weekend. I'm piping up as a dancer who had
hoped that you would call a grand square in a contra formation after the
discussion here. Tonight I find myself in an analytical frame of mind,
thinking about where we stumbled, in the hope that you (and others) will
keep calling this dance and have great success with it.
I'm from Illinois, but a regular at the two Wisconsin weekends
(IndepenDance and Squirrel Moon). The programs tend to be dominated by
contras, but with enough squares so most dancers are familiar with the
basic concepts. I haven't been keeping count, but it feels as though
most weekends include one dance with a grand square, and I felt that
there were sufficient dancers on Sunday who knew the grand square figure
that we should have been fine.
Personally, I struggled to remember which direction to start as we
flip-flopped from side to side. I think a lot of us were disoriented
that way. Even in a square dance with rotating partners, one role
usually stays home and can anchor the orientation.
Part of my problem was not (yet) having internalized my identity as part
of a right or left couple in a four-facing-four. I don't need to think
any more when I'm addressed as a gent (or lady), as a middle or inside
or outside. I know when I'm a head or a side. I know where to find my
corner wherever I am at the moment. But I don't recall dancing a
four-facing-four where the right couples did something different from
the left couples.
My two cents in the interest of continuous improvement.
-Dave Harding
On 7/5/2016 12:15 PM, Luke Donforth via Callers wrote:
> Thanks John, that does seem like a fun bit to incorporate.
>
> I ran the Fox Hollow Foibles dance with the Grand Square happening on
> the diagonal at IndepenDance in Wisconsin. Folks seemed to have fun
> with it, but it was certainly challenging (my sense is that community
> doesn't do many squares; Grand or otherwise).
>
> On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 5:20 PM, John Sweeney via Callers
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>
> Of course contra dancers like swinging, so you could try
> incorporating this version into a contra dance:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfqC8uVfCUo
>
> In “Cowboy Dances” (1939) there was also a version with half a
> two-hand turn (but they called it a swing!) every time you met
> someone.
>
> Happy dancing,
>
> John
>
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Ilove using role-neutral swings, and as Maia suggested, I think they are afabulous teaching tool to correct awkward swings during a lesson. However, I have observed stress indicatorsfrom some dancers newish to role swapping when I have tried using a neutralswing. It seems as though having an asymmetricalswing hold indicates that both parties are in agreement as to who will end upwhere at the end of a swing. Even forregular role swappers, using a neutral swing delays the role decisionconcurrence from the beginning of the swing to the end, possibly making peoplelate to the next move.
Mark Pigman
Tacoma,WA
> Maia McCormick via Callers callers at lists.sharedweight.net
>Tue Jul 5 14:06:36 PDT 2016>But, I emphasize that you're both walking (orbuzz-stepping) *forward*,
>roughlyaiming at a point over your partner's shoulder. In fact, *the
>footworkfor a swing for both roles is exactly the same!!!* A good way to
>emphasizethis might be to have participants do a gender-neutral swing
>(e.g.right hand on shoulder blade, left hand clasped with partner above
>theheads) and then change the hand position into your classic ballroom
>swing(perhaps even trying out ballroom position with person A leading,
>thenwith person B leading) and noting how the footwork stays the same.
:)
On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 3:36 PM, Dale Wilson <dale.wilson(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Exactly, it's the hand that confuses me.
> On Jul 6, 2016 1:40 PM, "Alexandra Deis-Lauby" <adeislauby(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Left hand?
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 1:56 PM, Dale Wilson via Callers <
>> callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>>
>>> When I'm dancing the lady's role the only thing I consciously think
>>> about is putting my right and on the Gent's shoulder as we start to swing.
>>> If I get that right, everything else seems natural (to me).
>>>
>>> Dale
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 9:13 PM, tavi merrill via Callers <
>>> callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Regarding swing position: With good frame, differences between the
>>>> roles in giving weight are slight. But not all dancers are accustomed to
>>>> good frame.
>>>>
>>>> I find a mirrored ballroom hold (both dancers have right hand on the
>>>> other's shoulder blade, left hand on the other's shoulder) offers several
>>>> advantages:
>>>> - In general, it's a good hold for dancers to know as it saves
>>>> space in crowded halls.
>>>> - It facilitates spinning out from a swing, useful when dancers
>>>> encounter "string of swings" choreography
>>>> - It allows both dancers to experience both sides of good frame
>>>> The one challenge is that dancers need to remember which side they are
>>>> ending the swing on, as it removes "pointer hands" from the equation.
>>>>
>>>> This a bit of a tangent, but related to the chain: If we just called
>>>> gents chains (by either hand! the courtesy turn for a left-hand chain isn't
>>>> REALLY that complicated, folks) more often, role differences WRT chain
>>>> would be a moot issue, and both roles would be better equipped to
>>>> understand/offer/ask/decline flourishes. All for the effort of teaching one
>>>> move well, one move that's out there in good choreography waiting to be
>>>> used.
>>>>
>>>> Susan, I'm assuming this workshop is at a gender-free series, but
>>>> geared to encourage attendance by dancers who aren't yet accustomed to
>>>> gender-free dance? Having danced both roles widely and called a bit of
>>>> gender-free, I'd be happy to chat by phone or IM. Feel free to ping me on
>>>> facebook - Tavi Merrill
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 7/5/2016 11:32 AM, Susan Pleck via Callers wrote:
>>>>> > Hi folks,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I'm to lead a workshop/extended intro lesson at a local dance this
>>>>> > Saturday on gender-free dancing/dancing the "other" role/switching
>>>>> > roles. Not having done this before, I'd appreciate any thoughts or
>>>>> > advice about what this should include. For the gender-free aspect,
>>>>> > I'm not sure there's much to discuss, really; ir'd be more just
>>>>> giving
>>>>> > dancers a chance to practice responding to different terms. For
>>>>> > dancing the other role, though, what points of emphasis do you think
>>>>> > would be most useful? Two that come to mind are swing
>>>>> > positioning/giving weight, and figures such as a chain where the
>>>>> > actions of the two roles are different.
>>>>>
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