What is it with people and every dance having to have a neighbor swing? I personally dislike dance programs where every dance has a neighbor swing. Sometimes I’d like to pay attention to the partner I’m dancing with and not everyone else. Sometimes interesting choreography is available when you don’t have to squeeze two swings into everything. It adds variety to a program when there some dances without neighbor swings.
When I first started dancing many years ago, lots of dances didn’t have a partner swing and only had a neighbor swing. Mother-in-law dances, we called them. And sometimes, when I had a partner who was really bad at swinging, I was happy to do them!
So I don’t think your first dance is fatally flawed, or even should be considered as having a bug - it’s just what it is, a dance with a partner swing, and as you said, on a hot night in a crowded hall without air-conditioning, one swing, or even dances where only actives swing, can suddenly be desirable.
Martha
> On Jul 26, 2016, at 6:39 PM, Don Veino via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>
> Given the simplicity of the following, I expect to confirm they already exist... but thought I'd check in with the knowledgeable horde here on SW.
>
> This is something I apparently "wrote" over a year ago but found again during a files dive today. :) I expect I may have put it aside due to no Neighbor swing in the first pass. Spun off w/another A2 to address that just now, below.
>
> Revisiting them in light of the great heat we've had locally, they might be sweet lower exertion dances with the right tunes. And lack of a second swing can be a "feature" vs. "bug" in such conditions.
>
> Please let me know the real author(s), should it not be me. :)
>
> Thanks,
> Don
>
> Don Veino DRAFT 20150117 - Becket Left/CW
>
> A1
> LT Diag R&L Thru
> Ladies Chain Straight Across
> A2
> Star Left
> Star Right
> B1
> Big Oval Left and Right (until opposite P)
> B2
> Gents Allemande Left 1/2x
> Partner Glance Around* Right, Swing
>
> Don Veino DRAFT 20160726 - Becket Left/CW
>
> A1
> LT Diag R&L Thru
> Ladies Chain Straight Across
> A2
> Ladies Glance Around* Right 1x
> Neighbor Swing
> B1
> Big Oval Left and Right (until opposite P)
> B2
> Gents Allemande Left 1/2x
> Partner Glance Around* Right, Swing
>
> *Glance Around is just a placeholder for that other call, you know the one...
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I suspect that many callers have what Bob Dalsemer labeled
"danceritis". The term he should have used is dancerphopia i.e. fear
of dancers or more specifically of what dancers might think of the
caller.
I often see new callers who are afraid of calling programs that will
bore the experienced dancers. I'm sure having two swings in every
dance is a result of trying to please the dancers as well.
Please don't be afraid to call some dances in your program that don't
have two swings. They won't hate you!!!!!!!!
A program that consists of all contras with two swings is VERY
predictable and predictable programs can lead to boredom.
Surprise them!
Tom
I completely agree with the others who have responded. The world needs more
dances with fewer swings. I love swinging but I love other moves as well.
If a dance has something like "Partner Balance & Swing, Circle Left 3/4,
Neighbour Swing" then my immediate reaction is that that is half the dance
gone already and it has nothing interesting in it. We've all done that a
thousand times. Let's have some variety!
Once you break out of the need for two swings in a dance you can use the
space to create much more interesting choreography.
Happy dancing,
John
John Sweeney, Dancer, England john(a)modernjive.com 01233 625 362
http://www.contrafusion.co.uk for Dancing in Kent
Hi all,
I know that ONS dances are not always the preferred topic with this list, but I have a particular challenge that I need help with and I am hoping some of you might have inspired thoughts.
I will, for the second time, be calling a dance at a senior residential community that will bring together a range of seniors in wheelchairs, seniors with a range of mobility issues, and able seniors eager to dance, combined with children from the daycare that serves staff of this community, meaning 2-3 year old youngsters and a few of their parents and staff. I understand that these events are really popular as the seniors very much enjoy watching and interacting with the small children of their caregivers.
The last time I did this I cobbled together a combination of simple dances like Chimes of Dunkirk and Low Backed Car. A few eager folks (mostly staff) danced and most of the senior citizens sat around the outside in a circle, sometimes shaking tambourines and waving scarves. The toddlers joined in the dancing a bit, but also did a lot of running around the edges. At one point we made a parade with all the instruments, which was quite successful.
I would welcome any insights you might have about how to nurture a fun and successful event in this situation. I call a lot of children and family dances - it’s really my favorite thing to call - but I found this particular combination quite challenging last time.
A few details: I don’t know how many people will be there - it’s drop-in. It will be outside on the grass under a tent. The wee ones will be getting picked up by their parents intermittently throughout the event.
I’ll take whatever you’ve got!!
Thanks,
Delia Clark
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Agreed. Somehow this bit of the note I wrote in response to Greg's digest
reply was left out of what I sent (surely operator error, as I simply had
to hit paste here below to get it back from the clipboard):
"I'll wait a bit more to hear if these are new/unique before working up
name(s).
BTW, they're double progression. Believe the end effects work out to: never
really out; if nobody is there on the left diagonal stay put to rejoin
immediately at the chain."
Thanks,
-Don
On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 8:20 PM, Yoyo Zhou via Callers <
callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
> Also, Don, you might want to note these are double progression (the
> result of left diagonal right and left thru).
>
On Tue, 26 Jul 2016 21:57:30 -0700, Martha Wild via Callers wrote:
> What is it with people and every dance having to have a neighbor swing? I
personally dislike dance programs where
> every dance has a neighbor swing. Sometimes Id like to pay attention to
the partner Im dancing with and not
> everyone else. Sometimes interesting choreography is available when you
dont have to squeeze two swings into
> everything.
That's exactly what I think, and I'm so pleased to hear an American say the
same thing!
Colin Hume (currently in Ann Arbor, MI where I'm calling a workshop of
Advanced Contras & Squares on Saturday)
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Yup. While I call single swing and chestnut dances in some programs, I also
call in venues where you better do that infrequently if you're interested
in being asked back. Know your audience and pick your points of
influence... :)
On Jul 27, 2016 4:10 PM, "Greg Allan via Callers" <
callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>
> I agree with Martha and Colin. There's no reason to think that any contra
dance without two swings has a bug, necessarily, although Don may have been
in the mindset of fulfilling the desires and catering to the tastes of his
audiences when he said what he said. I can support that, too!
>
> Greg
>
Hi All,
I collected a dance from Lisa Greenleaf. Neither she nor the person
from whom she collected it knows the author. I'm hoping you can help
me. Here it is:
Holiday Daze
Becket
A1 Cir L 3/4, pass through
New neighbor swing
A2 Long lines F&B
Ladies chain
B1 Left diag. hey for 4
B2 (original) Ladies L shoulder gypsy
Partner swing
Thanks
-Amy
On 07/27/2016 04:10 PM, Greg Allan via Callers wrote:
> I agree with Martha and Colin. There's no reason to think that any contra
> dance without two swings has a bug, necessarily, although Don may have been
> in the mindset of fulfilling the desires and catering to the tastes of his
> audiences when he said what he said. I can support that, too!
>
> Greg
>
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>> Given the simplicity of the following, I expect to confirm they already
>> exist... but thought I'd check in with the knowledgeable horde here on SW.
>>
>> This is something I apparently "wrote" over a year ago but found again
>> during a files dive today. :) I expect I may have put it aside due to no
>> Neighbor swing in the first pass. Spun off w/another A2 to address that
>> just now, below.
>>
>> Revisiting them in light of the great heat we've had locally, they might be
>> sweet lower exertion dances with the right tunes. And lack of a second
>> swing can be a "feature" vs. "bug" in such conditions.
>>
>> Please let me know the real author(s), should it not be me. :)
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Don
>>
>> Don Veino DRAFT 20150117 - Becket Left/CW
>>
>> A1
>> LT Diag R&L Thru
>> Ladies Chain Straight Across
>> A2
>> Star Left
>> Star Right
>> B1
>> Big Oval Left and Right (until opposite P)
>> B2
>> Gents Allemande Left 1/2x
>> Partner Glance Around* Right, Swing
>>
>> Don Veino DRAFT 20160726 - Becket Left/CW
>>
>> A1
>> LT Diag R&L Thru
>> Ladies Chain Straight Across
>> A2
>> Ladies Glance Around* Right 1x
>> Neighbor Swing
>> B1
>> Big Oval Left and Right (until opposite P)
>> B2
>> Gents Allemande Left 1/2x
>> Partner Glance Around* Right, Swing
>>
>> *Glance Around is just a placeholder for that other call, you know the
>> one...
>>
I agree with Martha and Colin. There's no reason to think that any contra
dance without two swings has a bug, necessarily, although Don may have been
in the mindset of fulfilling the desires and catering to the tastes of his
audiences when he said what he said. I can support that, too!
Greg
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> Given the simplicity of the following, I expect to confirm they already
> exist... but thought I'd check in with the knowledgeable horde here on SW.
>
> This is something I apparently "wrote" over a year ago but found again
> during a files dive today. :) I expect I may have put it aside due to no
> Neighbor swing in the first pass. Spun off w/another A2 to address that
> just now, below.
>
> Revisiting them in light of the great heat we've had locally, they might be
> sweet lower exertion dances with the right tunes. And lack of a second
> swing can be a "feature" vs. "bug" in such conditions.
>
> Please let me know the real author(s), should it not be me. :)
>
> Thanks,
> Don
>
> Don Veino DRAFT 20150117 - Becket Left/CW
>
> A1
> LT Diag R&L Thru
> Ladies Chain Straight Across
> A2
> Star Left
> Star Right
> B1
> Big Oval Left and Right (until opposite P)
> B2
> Gents Allemande Left 1/2x
> Partner Glance Around* Right, Swing
>
> Don Veino DRAFT 20160726 - Becket Left/CW
>
> A1
> LT Diag R&L Thru
> Ladies Chain Straight Across
> A2
> Ladies Glance Around* Right 1x
> Neighbor Swing
> B1
> Big Oval Left and Right (until opposite P)
> B2
> Gents Allemande Left 1/2x
> Partner Glance Around* Right, Swing
>
> *Glance Around is just a placeholder for that other call, you know the
> one...
>
