This discussion got me thinking about dances which have both a Gents RH chain and Ladies LH chain. I wasn't sure if any existed, so I wrote a few. I have no idea when I would ever call them, but it was a fun exercise :)
On a somewhat related note, I appear to have a thing for writing Becket dances, but I'm proud to say that none of these start with "Circle Left 3 places". In fact, they don't have any circles in them, so they can also help with the "dances without a circle left" campaign.
That's Not How We Do ItContra, BECKET, by Rona Wiener, Jan 2016
A1 (4) Balance the Ring (4) Gents Roll away P along set (8) Gents RIGHT HAND chain [To N] A2 (8) Gents [Gypsy] x1 (8) Neighbor Swing B1 (4) Balance the Ring (4) Ladies Roll away N along set (8) Ladies LEFT HAND chain [to P] B2 (8) On Right Diagonal Half a hey [Ladies lead by L] (8) Partner Swing
Slightly Less Wrong
Contra, BECKET, by Rona Wiener, Jan 2016
A1 (4) Balance the Ring (4) Spin R (as in Petronella), face NN (4) Balance the Ring (4) Spin R A2 (8) Star L x 1 [hands across, gents drop out] (8) Ladies LEFT HAND chain [to N] B1 (8) Star R x 1 [hands across, ladies drop out] (8) Gents RIGHT HAND chain [To P] B2 (4) Pass Through (12) Partner Swing
Double NegativeContra, BECKET, by Rona Wiener, Jan 2016
[Starts on side with P, Gents on R] A1 (8) Star R x 1 [hands across, ladies drop out] (8) Gents RIGHT HAND chain [To N] A2 (8) Star L x 1 [hands across, gents drop out] (8) Ladies LEFT HAND chain [to P] B1 (8) Half a hey [Ladies lead by L] (8) Partner Swing B2 (8) Right and Left Through (8) Pass Through, Single File Promenade along the set to NN
On Wednesday, January 20, 2016 10:17 PM, Alexandra Deis-Lauby via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
I think I just danced one in CDH which both chains. But I can't remember who was chaining when because I was swapping anyway. But if anyone else was there and remembers...
On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 7:11 PM, Ron Blechner via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Anyone know any contras with gents chaining from right-hand position? I have four I wrote on the plane, and I don't think I've ever danced one. And considering the ro swapping I encounter at many of my gigs, maybe it's time I start calling them sometime.I know there's one by Gene Hubert where ladies chain, are rolled away with 1/2 sashay, and gents are right-hand chained from the right. Notes for that appreciated. I'd like dances where gents are doing a regular right hand chain.I'm not talking about "Gents chain", which is from the Left-hand side. For that matter, I want to make it clear that "gents chain" is named poorly. I called "gents, left-hand chain" the other night in Greenfield and it required less explanation than when I've called/taught it as "gents chain". But I digress.Thanks!
Ron Blechner
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Laurie,
Jim makes good points. Think of the "pass through, circle left,
pass through" as one extended 16 beat figure rather than trying to break
it into 2 8 beat figures with the circle crossing the middle of the
phrase. When I'm calling this dance the 2nd half of the dance goes
something like this (as best I can recall sitting at my computer).
(starting on the last 2 beats of the previous phrase)
pass through, (pause for a beat), turn alone, circle left, (pause for a
few beats), pass through, (pause for a beat or so), balance and swing
The "turn alone, circle left" goes very quickly, taking maybe only 2
beats. The rest tends to be slower, one word per beat. Writing this
out may not be the best way to convey my meaning, but hopefully it gives
you some idea.
Jonathan
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On 3/31/2016 12:34 AM, James Saxe via Callers wrote:
> On Mar 30, 2016, at 9:35 PM, Laur via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>
>> I am not comfortable with the timing in Boomerang. Am I off or .. is there something I'm missing???
>>
>> I've tried (with my imaginary friends) several theories but - always the timing isn't quite there.
>>
>> Laurie
>> West MI
>
> Laurie,
>
> You don't say what part of the dance you're uncomfortable with, but
> I'm going to guess that it's the B1 part. The timing as given by
> Gene Hubert in _Dizzy Dances, Volume II_ is:
>
> Pass thru ACROSS the set and turn alone(4).
> Circle left, go all the way around(8).
> Pass thru ALONG the set to meet your partner(4).
>
> The timing is a bit unusual in that the circle crosses the middle
> of the phrase, but I don't think there's anything wrong with it.
> Dancers who aren't used to circling all the way around in 8 beats
> can make up time on the pass thru (or pull thru) along and on the
> forward part of the subsequent balance. On the other hand, if the
> dancers can easily circle once in 8 beats and if they think that 4
> beats for pass thru along is a bit leisurely, they can try rearing
> back at the end of the circle, or even add a spin during the pass
> thru.
>
> You can see a video of _Boomerang_ here:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zj49YHAMGnk
>
> (Thanks to Chris Page for supplying the title in a comment, so that
> the video was easy to find.) If you study the video, you'll see
> many examples of dancers managing to meet their partners just in
> time for the balance at the start of the B2 music--and also a few
> examples of dancers being either early or late. Beware that there
> are a number of places where the video cuts to a different camera
> angle and the new cut doesn't pick up at the same place in the tune
> as the previous cut ended.
>
> I hope some of this is helpful.
>
> Cheers,
> --Jim
I am not comfortable with the timing in Boomerang. Am I off or .. is there something I'm missing???
I've tried (with my imaginary friends) several theories but - always the timing isn't quite there.
LaurieWest MI ~ When I dance, I cannot judge, I cannot hate, I cannot separate myself from life. I can only be joyful and whole, that is why I dance. ~Hans Bos~ ~
Mine is Bob's Triplet #1 (Bob Dalsemer, 1988)
http://bobdalsemer.com/Bob_Dalsemers_Web_Pages/Other_Dances.html
A1: First couple join both hands, chassé down center (4) , heel, toe,
heel toe with man's left foot, ladies right (4), chassé back up (4) and
cast off unassisted into second place, second couple moving up
A2: First couple turn contra corners
B1: All balance and swing partners, end swing facing up
B2: All chassé four steps, men to their right, ladies to their left, men
passing behind partners (4), turn to face partner, move towards each
other, joining hands in a circle of 6 (4), circle left halfway (8)
I modify the B2 1-4 into balance together, away and swap with partner
(top couple, California twirl, others rollaway)
--
Michael Barraclough
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www.michaelbarraclough.com
Thank you all for the great triplets! I did call Dave’s Triplet #5 with a hey for 6 that they loved, but I was guest calling and so we had 3 triplets during my slot, but after the break it was down to 6-8 dancers and we were looking for choreography for small groups.
I appreciate your time and very helpful explanations of the choreography!
Claire Takemori (Bay Area, CA)
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Hi, Claire,
One triplet I have enjoyed is Rick Mohr's Triplet #2 (I've copied his notes
below). once dancers get the feel, the momentum of the 1's leading into the
circle at the beginning of A2 is very satisfying, as is the wave into the
hey.
I had it nearly fall apart one time when the group of people left were all
beginners, but they were having a good time and laughed throughout - either
caught up on the circle left or straightened out the set at the partner
swing at the end, so it worked well enough.
I used to coordinate an open band/open caller dance that got tons of
musicians but was often short on dancers, so it was handy to have
interesting dances that worked for very short sets. I also once improvised
Rory O'more as a triplet, but the memory is hazy now. I think I just had
the #1 couple swing to the bottom of the set at the end.
-Valerie Cohen, Seattle
Rick's Triplet #2
By Rick Mohr; January 28, 2002
Triplet, 1's Improper
Level: Intermediate/Advanced
A1: 1's cross *(passing right shoulders)*, go outside below 2's who move up
(6)
1's cross *(passing right shoulders)*, turn right, go outside around two
people *(ending proper)* (10)
A2: Circle left 6 hands round (12)
Allemande right with partner 3/4 (4)
*(Join left hands with neighbor to form a wave of six)*
B1: Balance the wave (4)
Half hey for 6 *(neighbors pass left shoulders to start)* (12)
B2: Balance and swing partner (16)
The figures of this dance fit the music phrases exactly, so it can be quite
satisfying if dancers are on the ball but somewhat unforgiving if they get
confused.
The active couple moves continuously in A1. First they cross around the 2's
to the middle position, and then without stopping they cross again and both
turn right?the man loops around the bottom couple while the woman loops
around the top couple. As the active dancers return to the middle position
(proper) all join hands and match their motion smoothly into a circle left.
The circle left in A2 takes 12 steps, so be aware to call the allemande
right in time for its four steps to end the phrase in time to balance the
wave at the start of B1. Then 12 weaving hey steps invert the set in time
for the partner balance and swing at the start of B2.
In terms of the original numbering, once through the dance leaves the
couples in a 3, 1, 2 sequence.
>
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> Hi Claire:
> If you want a triplet with contra corners and a hey for 6 (and very much
> for experienced dancers) then try:
> Cinnamon CrullerTriplet, properBI / 10-23-05
> A1. 1s cast to bottom, 1s up the center and 1/2 figure 8 below (2s move
> up)A2. 1s turn contra cornersB1. All partner allemande R 3/4, 1/2 hey for
> 6B2. Partner balance, swing - face up progressed (3-1-2)
> Bob
>
>> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2016 22:51:38 -0700
>> To: callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net
>> Subject: [Callers] Favorite Triplet ?
>> From: callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net
>>
>> Hi everyone. I?m enjoying all the great information that is shared on
> this list. Thank you!
>>
>> I?m wondering if you have a favorite Triplet that would work for a very
> small but experienced contra dance with just 6 dancers left after the
> break? Ideally
Hi, Claire,
One triplet I have enjoyed is Rick Mohr's Triplet #2 (I've copied his notes
below). once dancers get the feel, the momentum of the 1's leading into the
circle at the beginning of A2 is very satisfying, as is the wave into the
hey.
I had it nearly fall apart one time when the group of people left were all
beginners, but they were having a good time and laughed throughout - either
caught up on the circle left or straightened out the set at the partner
swing at the end, so it worked well enough.
I used to coordinate an open band/open caller dance that got tons of
musicians but was often short on dancers, so it was handy to have
interesting dances that worked for very short sets. I also once improvised
Rory O'more as a triplet, but the memory is hazy now. I think I just had
the #1 couple swing to the bottom of the set at the end.
-Valerie Cohen, Seattle
Rick's Triplet #2
By Rick Mohr; January 28, 2002
Triplet, 1's Improper
Level: Intermediate/Advanced
A1: 1's cross *(passing right shoulders)*, go outside below 2's who move up
(6)
1's cross *(passing right shoulders)*, turn right, go outside around two
people *(ending proper)* (10)
A2: Circle left 6 hands round (12)
Allemande right with partner 3/4 (4)
*(Join left hands with neighbor to form a wave of six)*
B1: Balance the wave (4)
Half hey for 6 *(neighbors pass left shoulders to start)* (12)
B2: Balance and swing partner (16)
The figures of this dance fit the music phrases exactly, so it can be quite
satisfying if dancers are on the ball but somewhat unforgiving if they get
confused.
The active couple moves continuously in A1. First they cross around the 2's
to the middle position, and then without stopping they cross again and both
turn right—the man loops around the bottom couple while the woman loops
around the top couple. As the active dancers return to the middle position
(proper) all join hands and match their motion smoothly into a circle left.
The circle left in A2 takes 12 steps, so be aware to call the allemande
right in time for its four steps to end the phrase in time to balance the
wave at the start of B1. Then 12 weaving hey steps invert the set in time
for the partner balance and swing at the start of B2.
In terms of the original numbering, once through the dance leaves the
couples in a 3, 1, 2 sequence.
>
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> Hi Claire:
> If you want a triplet with contra corners and a hey for 6 (and very much
> for experienced dancers) then try:
> Cinnamon CrullerTriplet, properBI / 10-23-05
> A1. 1s cast to bottom, 1s up the center and 1/2 figure 8 below (2s move
> up)A2. 1s turn contra cornersB1. All partner allemande R 3/4, 1/2 hey for
> 6B2. Partner balance, swing - face up progressed (3-1-2)
> Bob
>
> > Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2016 22:51:38 -0700
> > To: callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net
> > Subject: [Callers] Favorite Triplet ?
> > From: callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net
> >
> > Hi everyone. I?m enjoying all the great information that is shared on
> this list. Thank you!
> >
> > I?m wondering if you have a favorite Triplet that would work for a very
> small but experienced contra dance with just 6 dancers left after the
> break? Ideally
Thank you for the helpful comments when I shared this dance a few weeks
ago. I called the dance as written on 3/18/2016 at the Memorial Dance
for Charlie Fellows. It went ok but, as forecast, it was hard work to
ensure that the B2/A1 transition went smoothly. I have therefore changed
the dance slightly which I hope makes it a better dance. The original
B1and B2 have been swapped and the two 'trades' have been changed for a
'turn single' and a 'California Twirl'.
The final dance is as follows:
FOR HE'S A JOLLY GOOD FELLOW
Michael Barraclough (2016)
Longways improper
A1 Balance the ring, Petronella, Balance the ring, Turn Single
A2 Give & take (men take, neighbor swing)
B1 Give & take (men take, partner swing)
B2 Balance the ring, Petronella, Balance the ring, California Twirl
This keeps most of the symmetry/simplicity from the original but
improves the B2/A1 transition. Dancers eemed to like the double Give &
Take.
The full dance is available at
http://www.michaelbarraclough.com/24-dances-i-have-written/1090-for-he-s-a-…
--
Michael Barraclough
michael(a)michaelbarraclough.com
www.michaelbarraclough.com
One could name a dance about whatever one wants
However, here's one from the book Midwest Folklore published by the Urbana Country Dancers in 1995 https://store.cdss.org/product/178-midwest-folklore-and-other-dances
Colonel North's Contra Insurgencyby Erna-Lynne Bogue
A1 N's dsdStart grand R&L around the major set: N right, nest neighbor left, right to a third, start left allemande with a fourth
A2 ... finish the allemande and lefts and rights to original neighborSwing original neighbor
B1 1's half figure 8 above, 1's start turning contra corners
B2 1's finish turning contra corners, 1's swing end facing down
Erna-Lynne wrote the first version of this dance during some well publicized Congressional hearings in the 1980's, and found it gain when Col North was again inthe news in 1991.Col North ran unsuccessfully for the Senate in 1994Oliver North - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Michael Fuerst 802 N Broadway Urbana IL 61801 217 239 5844Links to photos of many of my drawings and paintings are at www.ArtComesFuerst.com
On Monday, March 28, 2016 9:41 AM, Ron Blechner via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Let me rephrase:Is there a precedent for naming a dance after a living politician?On Mar 28, 2016 10:29 AM, "Don Veino" <sharedweight_net(a)veino.com> wrote:
Jefferson and Liberty.
On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 10:21 AM, Ron Blechner via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
I have another question to pose:Is there precedent for naming a dance after a politician? While I may have voted for Bernie, I'm careful to not inject my political view into my calling / choreography. (Though, on the other hand, if Bernie doesn't win the nomination, in 5 years dancers will just hear "feel the burn".)In Dance,
Ron BlechnerOn Mar 27, 2016 8:24 AM, "Pat Hoekje via Callers" <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
I am trying to visualize the circle R to star R with new neighbor from the women's place and I have to turn around (or drop from the circle right a bit early to star right with the next neighbor. What am I not seeing correctly or is that true?
Thanks,Pat
On Sunday, March 27, 2016 4:22 AM, Amy Wimmer via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Tom and Erik are quite right about that swing. It lasts FOREVER, which
is a little too long. I took Michael's suggestion and started at A2.
I also took Michael's suggestion of turning the allemande into a
two-eyed turn (an "eye-lemande" as my friend Matthew coined). Thank
you for the suggestions for changing that bit.
Two callers danced it tonight. One (my husband, Tom) thought the flow
was good, but the swing was definitely too long. The other caller said
she really liked that the mad robin wasn't with your partner, which
she said tends to make a dance seem very partner-only-centric,
ignoring the neighbors. She agreed with me that I need to figure out a
better way to teach it. One of the band members noticed the long swing
and said it needs some other element to break it up.
This particular dance community has lots of beginners and folks who
just don't dance very well. It took them a while to get the circle
right-to star right transition. Tom thought that part was simple. He
noticed that when one is out at the ends one should not cross over,
but should stand "proper."
I very much appreciate your input, guys. Next time I'll try some more
of your ideas.
-Amy
> On Mar 26, 2016, at 5:50 PM, Tom Hinds <twhinds(a)earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> Nice dance Amy. I really like the sequence of moves.
> I'm trying to imagine this in my head and assume that the allemande right is once around which takes less than 8 beats to do.
>
> Hope you don't mind suggesting a change. I would change the allemande right to once and a half. That would give us:
>
> B2 neighbor allemande right 1 1/2
> ladies ric. men pass left
>
> T
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I called Young Adult Rose last night and experienced a near-complete
dancer revolt about the shadow allemande. The dance is written with a
circle left 3/4, pass P by R along the line then allemande shadow R 1x,
before coming back to P for a balance and swing. The dancers all
_really_ wanted to do the allemande by the left. I tried calling it a
few times with the R hand, then gave up and called it L and they were
all much happier. Anyone else experienced this?
Kalia
FWIW, I have such a dance, although the original conceit was bidding in bridge. The dance is called “One No-Trump”.
Thanx, Ric Goldman
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I have another question to pose:
Is there precedent for naming a dance after a politician?
While I may have voted for Bernie, I'm careful to not inject my political view into my calling / choreography. (Though, on the other hand, if Bernie doesn't win the nomination, in 5 years dancers will just hear "feel the burn".)
In Dance,
Ron Blechner
On Mar 27, 2016 8:24 AM, "Pat Hoekje via Callers" <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net <mailto:callers@lists.sharedweight.net> > wrote:
I am trying to visualize the circle R to star R with new neighbor from the women's place and I have to turn around (or drop from the circle right a bit early to star right with the next neighbor. What am I not seeing correctly or is that true?
Thanks,
Pat
On Sunday, March 27, 2016 4:22 AM, Amy Wimmer via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net <mailto:callers@lists.sharedweight.net> > wrote:
Tom and Erik are quite right about that swing. It lasts FOREVER, which
is a little too long. I took Michael's suggestion and started at A2.
I also took Michael's suggestion of turning the allemande into a
two-eyed turn (an "eye-lemande" as my friend Matthew coined). Thank
you for the suggestions for changing that bit.
Two callers danced it tonight. One (my husband, Tom) thought the flow
was good, but the swing was definitely too long. The other caller said
she really liked that the mad robin wasn't with your partner, which
she said tends to make a dance seem very partner-only-centric,
ignoring the neighbors. She agreed with me that I need to figure out a
better way to teach it. One of the band members noticed the long swing
and said it needs some other element to break it up.
This particular dance community has lots of beginners and folks who
just don't dance very well. It took them a while to get the circle
right-to star right transition. Tom thought that part was simple. He
noticed that when one is out at the ends one should not cross over,
but should stand "proper."
I very much appreciate your input, guys. Next time I'll try some more
of your ideas.
-Amy
> On Mar 26, 2016, at 5:50 PM, Tom Hinds <twhinds(a)earthlink.net <mailto:twhinds@earthlink.net> > wrote:
>
> Nice dance Amy. I really like the sequence of moves.
> I'm trying to imagine this in my head and assume that the allemande right is once around which takes less than 8 beats to do.
>
> Hope you don't mind suggesting a change. I would change the allemande right to once and a half. That would give us:
>
> B2 neighbor allemande right 1 1/2
> ladies ric. men pass left
>
> T
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