[Callers] Grand Square in a contra?

[Linda Leslie via Callers]

An FYI…..Jacob also calls this dance “Fox Hollow Fancy”.  In the RPDLW syllabus from 2005….Jacob states that both titles are valid.  
Linda


On Jun 30, 2016, at 6:13 PM, Bob Isaacs via Callers <callers at lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

> Hi Luke:
>  
> You may be thinking of:
>  
> Grand Square Contra        Jacob Bloom      4 x 4
>  
> A1.      8          Lines forward and back
>             8          Corner swing – form square
> 
> A2.      16        Sides face grand square
> 
> B1.      16        Reverse grand square
> 
> B2.      4,4       Heads pass through, sides pass through
>             8          Partner swing
>  
> I don't see how you can have a grand square in a contra without it being a 4 x 4.  But if you come up with a way, let us know - 
>  
> Bob
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> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 17:05:45 -0400
> To: callers at lists.sharedweight.net
> Subject: [Callers] Grand Square in a contra?
> From: callers at lists.sharedweight.net
> 
> Hi Folks,
> 
> Several years ago (2013?) while at the fabulous DEFFA festival in Maine, I danced a contra that had a grand square. I think it was on the diagonal.
> 
> But that's about all I remember about it. 
> 
> Anyone know the dance? Or can give me more of a lead like the caller or such?
> 
> I don't think it was a 4x4. I'm not sure if it had the full 16 beats one way, then reverse and 16 beats the other way; because that'd be half the dance...
> 
> Now that I'm thinking about it, as a 4x4 with a full grand square and still following somewhat typical 4x4 conventions:
> 
> A1
> Lines of 4 go forward and back
> Corner Swing
> A2
> Grand Square: Heads start forward, sides split
> B1
> Reverse: sides start forward, heads split
> B2
> Option 1: Heads pass straight through, sides pass straight through; find partner
> Option 2: Pass new corner right, next left; find partner
> Option 3: Gents left hand star promenade with corner, ladies go ~1/2, turn back to partner
> partner swing, face line of direction
> 
> I'm now really confident it wasn't a 4x4 contra, but I still don't remember what it was. Any help would be appreciated. 
> 
> If I can't find it I may try it as a 4x4, but it seems like you'd be further ahead with a simple square to have a little more variety than just grand square and two swings...
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> -- 
> Luke Donforth
> Luke.Donforth at gmail.com
> 
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