<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">An FYI…..Jacob also calls this dance “Fox Hollow Fancy”. In the RPDLW syllabus from 2005….Jacob states that both titles are valid. <div>Linda</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div><div>On Jun 30, 2016, at 6:13 PM, Bob Isaacs via Callers <<a href="mailto:callers@lists.sharedweight.net">callers@lists.sharedweight.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div class="hmmessage" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div dir="ltr">Hi Luke:<br> <br>You may be thinking of:<br> <br>Grand Square Contra Jacob Bloom 4 x 4<br> <br><font face="Calibri,sans-serif"></font><font face="Calibri,sans-serif">A1.<span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>8<span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Lines forward and back<o:p></o:p></font><br><font face="Calibri,sans-serif"></font><font face="Calibri,sans-serif"><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>8<span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Corner swing – form square<o:p></o:p></font><br><font face="Calibri,sans-serif"></font><br><div style="margin: 0in -0.5in 0pt 0in; padding: 0px;"><font face="Calibri,sans-serif">A2.<span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>16<span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Sides face grand square<o:p></o:p></font></div><font face="Calibri,sans-serif"></font><br><div style="margin: 0in -0.5in 0pt 0in; padding: 0px;"><font face="Calibri,sans-serif">B1.<span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>16<span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Reverse grand square<o:p></o:p></font></div><font face="Calibri,sans-serif"></font><br><div style="margin: 0in -0.5in 0pt 0in; padding: 0px;"><font face="Calibri,sans-serif">B2.<span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>4,4<span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Heads pass through, sides pass through<o:p></o:p></font></div><font face="Calibri,sans-serif"></font><font face="Calibri,sans-serif"><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>8<span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Partner swing</font><br><font face="Calibri,sans-serif"></font> <br><font face="Calibri,sans-serif">I don't see how you can have a grand square in a contra without it being a 4 x 4. But if you come up with a way, let us know -<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></font><br> <br>Bob<br> <br><font face="Calibri,sans-serif"></font><br><div style="margin: 0in -0.5in 0pt 0in; padding: 0px;"><o:p><font face="Calibri,sans-serif"> </font></o:p></div><font face="Calibri,sans-serif"><br> </font><br><div><font face="Calibri,sans-serif"><hr id="stopSpelling"></font>Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 17:05:45 -0400<br>To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:callers@lists.sharedweight.net">callers@lists.sharedweight.net</a><br>Subject: [Callers] Grand Square in a contra?<br>From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:callers@lists.sharedweight.net">callers@lists.sharedweight.net</a><br><br><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div>Hi Folks,<br><br></div>Several years ago (2013?) while at the fabulous DEFFA festival in Maine, I danced a contra that had a grand square. I think it was on the diagonal.<br><br></div>But that's about all I remember about it.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><br></div>Anyone know the dance? Or can give me more of a lead like the caller or such?<br><br>I don't think it was a 4x4. I'm not sure if it had the full 16 beats one way, then reverse and 16 beats the other way; because that'd be half the dance...<br><br></div><div>Now that I'm thinking about it, as a 4x4 with a full grand square and still following somewhat typical 4x4 conventions:<br><br></div><div>A1<br></div><div>Lines of 4 go forward and back<br></div><div>Corner Swing<br></div><div>A2<br></div><div>Grand Square: Heads start forward, sides split<br></div><div>B1<br></div><div>Reverse: sides start forward, heads split<br></div><div>B2<br></div><div><ul><li>Option 1: Heads pass straight through, sides pass straight through; find partner</li><li>Option 2: Pass new corner right, next left; find partner</li><li>Option 3: Gents left hand star promenade with corner, ladies go ~1/2, turn back to partner<br></li></ul></div><div>partner swing, face line of direction<br></div><div><br></div><div>I'm now really confident it wasn't a 4x4 contra, but I still don't remember what it was. Any help would be appreciated.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><br></div><div>If I can't find it I may try it as a 4x4, but it seems like you'd be further ahead with a simple square to have a little more variety than just grand square and two swings...<br></div><div><br></div>Thanks.<br clear="all"><div><br>--<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><div class="ecxgmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">Luke Donforth<br><a href="mailto:Luke.Donev@gmail.com" target="_blank">Luke.Donforth@gmail.com</a><br></div></div></div></div><br>_______________________________________________ Callers mailing list<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:Callers@lists.sharedweight.net">Callers@lists.sharedweight.net</a><a href="http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net">http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net</a></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>Callers mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Callers@lists.sharedweight.net">Callers@lists.sharedweight.net</a><br><a href="http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net">http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net</a></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></body></html>