[Callers] Grand Square in a contra?

[Gary Shapiro via Callers]

There's an English Country Dance, Mary K (for Mary Kay Friday), with a
figure called Petit Fours, which is a two-couple version of grand square.

Maybe someone could devise another contra where two sets intersect each
other in the middle, and with the four couples they do a grand square
instead of the Petit Fours that the normal minor sets are doing.

On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 3:30 PM, Linda Leslie via Callers <
callers at lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

> An FYI…..Jacob also calls this dance “Fox Hollow Fancy”.  In the RPDLW
> syllabus from 2005….Jacob states that both titles are valid.
> Linda
>
>
> On Jun 30, 2016, at 6:13 PM, Bob Isaacs via Callers <
> callers at lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>
> Hi Luke:
>
> You may be thinking of:
>
> Grand Square Contra        Jacob Bloom      4 x 4
>
> A1.      8          Lines forward and back
>             8          Corner swing – form square
>
> A2.      16        Sides face grand square
>
> B1.      16        Reverse grand square
>
> B2.      4,4       Heads pass through, sides pass through
>             8          Partner swing
>
> I don't see how you can have a grand square in a contra without it being a
> 4 x 4.  But if you come up with a way, let us know -
>
> Bob
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 17:05:45 -0400
> To: callers at lists.sharedweight.net
> Subject: [Callers] Grand Square in a contra?
> From: callers at lists.sharedweight.net
>
> Hi Folks,
>
> Several years ago (2013?) while at the fabulous DEFFA festival in Maine, I
> danced a contra that had a grand square. I think it was on the diagonal.
>
> But that's about all I remember about it.
>
> Anyone know the dance? Or can give me more of a lead like the caller or
> such?
>
> I don't think it was a 4x4. I'm not sure if it had the full 16 beats one
> way, then reverse and 16 beats the other way; because that'd be half the
> dance...
>
> Now that I'm thinking about it, as a 4x4 with a full grand square and
> still following somewhat typical 4x4 conventions:
>
> A1
> Lines of 4 go forward and back
> Corner Swing
> A2
> Grand Square: Heads start forward, sides split
> B1
> Reverse: sides start forward, heads split
> B2
>
>    - Option 1: Heads pass straight through, sides pass straight through;
>    find partner
>    - Option 2: Pass new corner right, next left; find partner
>    - Option 3: Gents left hand star promenade with corner, ladies go
>    ~1/2, turn back to partner
>
> partner swing, face line of direction
>
> I'm now really confident it wasn't a 4x4 contra, but I still don't
> remember what it was. Any help would be appreciated.
>
> If I can't find it I may try it as a 4x4, but it seems like you'd be
> further ahead with a simple square to have a little more variety than just
> grand square and two swings...
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> Luke Donforth
> Luke.Donforth at gmail.com <Luke.Donev at gmail.com>
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