30 Nov
2015
30 Nov
'15
9:53 a.m.
Thanks to Chris for finding the link. (I eventually found my note about
it in the archive, where I acknowledge that the instructions as given
are unworkable and come up with various suggestions, including the
Physical-Snob-esque half-poussette half-poussette double progression,
but also some other whacky ideas.
Looking back through I see Michael Barraclough made a straightforward
reconstruction (with your same suggestion about half-poussette at top,
half-poussette at bottom), which is double progression, assumed it was
double progression every time rather than alternating, and suggested
that for a simultaneous start this would work if you took hands eight to
start with. (Thus, the association in my mind with neutral couples - if
it is double progression simultaneous start triple minor, neutral
couples can make it work.)
1 2 3 4 [N] 5 6 7 8 [N] 9 10 11 12 [N]
After one round
2,3 [out] 1, 4, 6, 7 [N], 5 8, 10, 11 [N], 9, 12 [and 9 needs to go to
the bottom
After two rounds
2,3, 4, 6 [N], 1, 7, 8, 10 [N], 5, 11, 12, 9 [N]
After three rounds
3, 4 [out], 2, 6, 7, 8[N], 1, 10, 11, 12 [N], 5, 9 {and 5 needs to go
to the bottom)
Double progression triple minor simultaneous start works if you're
willing to have 1/4 of the couples not actually in the dance figure.
It was Michael's suggestion that made me work through the neutral couple
stuff and is why I associate understanding neutral couples with this
dance, not because of anything Hardy says. Ah, the mists of memory.
-- Alan
On 11/30/15 1:10 AM, Colin Hume colin(a)colinhume.com [trad-dance-callers]
wrote:
On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 21:58:44 +0000 (UTC), Chris J
Brady
chrisjbrady(a)yahoo.com [trad-dance-callers] wrote:
Google is your friend...?
http://www.folk-network.com/miscellany/hardy.html
If you're talking about the
notation of the College Hornpipe at the
bottom of the page, I don't think it makes sense. The final move -
"The three couples whole pousette" - I take to mean a half poussette
at the top (to 2-1-3) and then a half poussette at the bottom (to
2-3-1). He says this leaves the second couple at the top, and the next
paragraph starts: "The original top couple being now in the third
place..."
That's a double progression, which in my opinion cannot work in a
triple minor. But notice that in his description of the second turn
of the dance he says: "Tune ends, the original top couple being in the
original fourth couple's place". That is (somehow) a single
progression, and I agree that in this case the new top couple can
start the dance with the two couples below them. But I don't believe
there was ever a traditional dance which alternated between double and
triple progression. They didn't have a caller to remind them which
turn was which, and there would have been complete chaos!
Colin Hume
Email colin(a)colinhume.com Web site http://colinhume.com
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