"Colonial period dances"
What's that defined in years?
CJB
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On Wed, 28/2/18, Dudley Laufman jdlaufman(a)comcast.net [trad-dance-callers] <trad-dance-callers(a)yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: [trad-dance-callers] Colonial Dances
To: "trad-dance-callers(a)yahoogroups.com" <trad-dance-callers(a)yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, 28 February, 2018, 15:07
Hunting The Fox
(Trenchmore) is another good Colonial Period dance. It is
a longways set dance. (No progression) for as many as
will. Unphrased. Music: Any jig will do..All
forward and back. Twice. Lead lines around (slip hey)
and back to place. All that again. All make bridges,
first couple go under followed by rest to all are back in
places. A swing partners with elbow hooks. Repeat if you
want.
On Sat, Feb 10, 2018 at
5:05 PM, Dudley Laufman <jdlaufman(a)comcast.net>
wrote:
Hey Rich: Don't waste your time
trying to getting drunk beginners to dance duple minors. You
don't need to carry a torch for contra dances...they are
not going to know the difference anyway, and won't thank
you if you have to spend more than a minute to
"teach" the dance. Sir Roger de Coverly is a
good one. Family version of Virginia Reel good. Repeat
it if you have to. They'll love it. If you must do a
duple, Jefferson & Liberty. Just start with top couple
being active and the others join in when they reach the top,
having watched the first couple suffer through it.
That's the way the old dancing masters did it anyway so
you will be correct that way. Good luck. cheers,
Dudley
On Sat,
Feb 10, 2018 at 3:01 PM, Rich Sbardella richsbardella(a)gmail.com
[trad-dance-callers] <trad-dance-callers@yahoogroup
s.com> wrote:
I am using an abbreviated
version of Sir Roger without the
reel.Thanks,Rich
On Sat, Feb 10, 2018 at
2:59 PM, John Ryan jryanvta(a)yahoo.com
[trad-dance-callers] <trad-dance-callers@yahoogroup
s.com> wrote:
Not sure if Comonial I have done modified Virginia
Reel
John
RyanArroyo Grande, CA
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Saturday, February 10, 2018, 11:27 AM, Rich Sbardella richsbardella(a)gmail.com
[trad-dance-callers] <trad-dance-callers@yahoogroup
s.com> wrote:
Hello Folks,
Does anyone have dances that they are
willing to share of Colonial period dances that are adapted
to a Party Dance environment for non dances? I instantly
think of Rakes of Mallow (longways) and Haste to the Wedding
(as a Duple Minor).
I have a few others, but would like
to add to my repertoire. Easy is what I am looking for.
Alcohol involved in reenactment party dance.
Thanks, From one of the
colonies!
Rich Sbardella
Stafford, CT
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Hello Folks,
Does anyone have dances that they are willing to share of Colonial period
dances that are adapted to a Party Dance environment for non dances? I
instantly think of Rakes of Mallow (longways) and Haste to the Wedding (as
a Duple Minor).
I have a few others, but would like to add to my repertoire. Easy is what
I am looking for. Alcohol involved in reenactment party dance.
Thanks,
>From one of the colonies!
Rich Sbardella
Stafford, CT
Folks,
I have a question about the square dance "Push Pa, Shove Ma" (or
"Push Ol' Pa", "Push Your Pa", "Ma and Pa", etc.).
I've recently looked at various videos and text descriptions of the
routine, including these:
https://squaredancehistory.org/items/show/454
(also at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4BHoCfdqE0
and note correction to choreography starting at 1:15)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmOlw5YOxPUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLPG0FCavGo
(Starts with a break; "Push Pa" figure begins about 1:20)
http://o25.squaredancehistory.org/items/show/966
(taken from _75 More Square Dances_ by Wes McVicar)
http://blog.d4bp.com/wp/push-old-ma-push-old-pa-square/http://www.library.unh.edu/find/digital/object/squares%3A195207
(_American Squares_, July, 1952, with earliest description
of the routine I know of on page 14)
In the videos and descriptions listed above, when "Pa" and "Ma"
get pushed into the middle, they swing each other, moving into the
empty spot in the ring, while the other six dancers simply stand in
place.
I seem to recall doing a version with more swinging thirty years
ago or so. Specifically, IIRC, on the call "Push Pa, shove Ma,
swing the gal from Arkansas" the dancers who did the pushing would
swing the "gal (or guy) from Arkansas"--that is, Pa's (or Ma's)
erstwhile partner.
*** Have any of you encountered the version just described--with
six dancers swinging instead of just two? If so, can you tell me
anything about where/when you learned it?
I don't recall the dance being in the repertoire of any of the
regular trad square callers in Pittsburgh when I lived and danced
there in the early to mid 1980s. I think I must have danced it
to some visiting caller during those days, but I can't say for
sure which one.
It's possible that the extra swinging was an embellishment that
I made up (and that others could easily have discovered as well),
but the words "swing the gal from Arkansas" seem to be addressed
to the dancers who just did the pushing, and not to "Pa" and "Ma".
The "gal (or 'girl' or 'one') from Arkansas" also shows up in the
patter for the visiting couple figure "Swing (your) Ma." See, for
example, page 17 of Patrick Napier's _Kentucky Mountain Square
Dancing_, linked from
https://www.cdss.org/programs/cdss-news-publications/cdss-online-library
Lest anyone presume that my own faulty memory has taken a bit of
patter from that figure and erroneously attached it "Push Pa",
note I've found several instances of other callers using the
"Arkansas" line in patter for "Push Pa":
1. Michael Ismerio's notes at
http://www.daretobesquare.org/?page_id=235
include the line
Push Pa, Shove Ma, Swing that girl from Arkansas,
but don't supply a description of the intended action.
2. Chelle Terwilliger's patter in this videa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lKhu-dHZw8
includes the words "Swing that gal from Arkansas". The editing
of the video makes it hard for me to track the action, but just
after she gives that call, I see an awful lot of people who are
not swinging.
3, Zach Hudson also uses the "Arkansas" patter in this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEyNIt7HhFc
The camera is aimed at the caller and band, with only a few
dancers partially visible at the far right. However, as best
I can make out, the man who pushes "Pa" into the center at
0:21 does not swing with "Pa"'s erstwhile partner (in what I
take to be the #1 place), whereas the woman who pushes "Ma"
into the center at 0:34 *does* swing in (what I take to be)
the #2 spot. Note, however, that the latter point is when all
dancers have their original partners back.
The "gal from Arkansas" also occurs in some versions of patter
for "Sally Goodin" (see
https://squaredancehistory.org/items/show/1658
for examples), but that routine seems otherwise unconnected
with "Push Pa".
I've found a couple sources for "Push Pa" that have more swinging
than the versions cited near the top of this message, in that the
ctive gent swings each of three ladies before leading them through
the opposite couple. _Alex Mulligan's Collection of Square Dance
Calls_ gives the patter
...
Stand behing Ma and Pa
Push them into the centre of the ring
When they meet they'll take a little swing
Same old gent with a brand new girl
First you bow, then give her a whirl
Down the center, divide the ring.
...
and _On the Beat with Ralph Sweet_ has a version with similar
choreography. Note that these version don't have the "swing
the gal from Aerkansas" patter. The call for the active gent
and his current partner to swing is separated from the call for
"Ma" and "Pa" to swing in the center.
I have not so far discovered any source for "Push Pa" that
gives the "gal from Arkansas" patter line and that explicitly
says the dancers who do the "pushing" are then to swing the
partners of the dancers they pushed. Do any of you know of
one (besides this message)?
Thanks.
--Jim
Thank you for all your suggestions. I used Chuck the Budge, a dance I
had in my box but for some reason had never called in the USA before.
Michael Barraclough
http://michaelbarraclough.com
Hi
I know we've discussed wireless mics before, but I'm not sure how to search through the archives.
I love my shure pg wireless headset system, but am wondering what other makes models folks prefer. Thanks.
Donna Hunt
Anyone have a dance that they would like to share which has both short
wavy lines (across) and long wavy lines (along)?
--
Photo of Michael Barraclough
Michael Barraclough
http://michaelbarraclough.com
Seth Tepfer wrote:
>> Anyone have any 'introduce yourself' dances? A dance way of meeting everyone in the class?
Can you be more specific, Seth? Are you talking about you, the caller, introducing yourself? Or (more likely in my mind) asking each dancer to introduce themself to the others? (Sounds like a plain old mixer to me.)
And I'm not sure what kind of class you mean. A pre-dance lesson? A workshop at a dance camp? A classroom of students at a school residency?
I want to help, but I'm having trouble visualizing what you have in mind.
Tony Parkes
Billerica, Mass.
www.hands4.com<http://www.hands4.com/>
New book! Square Dance Calling: An Old Art for a New Century
(to be published real soon)
Hullo All,
I'm curious what others do in the case of 16 bar dances.
If one has a dance like the Canadian Barn Dance, the similar La
Chapelloise/Cdn Gay Gordons, or Nottingham Swing, and so on, that repeat
after 16 bars of music do you:
Ask the musicians to play a tune AB
or
Generally allow or expect a two part/32 bar AABB tune and (try to) keep
track of when one is in the B zone, ask for once more and expect two
more repetitions of the dance? (or plan _further_ ahead, four dance
repetitions out, for twice more the music.)
Do you feel there a best practise? Does it depend on whether you
regularly work with a band/group of musos? How confident they are, if
_they_ can track that. Should it all be on the caller? Or do you simply
avoid this situation?
I have some 3 to 5 dances of this nature I regularly have handy and have
been taking it all on myself.
I have several bands I regularly work with where I might choose these
dances and it was suggested by one group recently they might provide
AB/16 bars. This would actually be a tracking relief for me and I think
provide a more (logical?) musical framework for the dancing of it.
Thanks, John
--
J.D. Erskine
Victoria, BC
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Vancouver Island & BC islands
http://vecds.ca/island.dance/
Can somebody explain the "left diagonal slice" move? It looks like a slide
left but it needs to take 8 beats to work.
--Marty
<mailto:michael@michaelbarraclough.com?subject=Re%3A%20Looking%20for%20a%20d
ance%20by%20Don%20Flaherty> "Michael Barraclough" ukcontracaller
This is what I have
JOY TO THE WORLD
Don Flaherty
Becket (cw)
Published in Dream Dances
Circle left 3/4, N swing
Ladies chain, 1/2 hey (ladies start right)
P balance & swing
Promenade over, left diagonal slice
