1 Oct
2015
1 Oct
'15
6:37 p.m.
Hartford Community Dance's insurance carrier (Markel Insurance) just
notified us that they will not renew when our current policy expires Dec
1. Apparently their underwriting guidelines have changed, and we no
longer meet their guidelines.
I'd appreciate suggestions on carriers. I think CDSS offers access to
liability insurance; I'll be talking to them shortly. Are there other
carriers dance groups (probably I should stick to US groups) have used
with good experience?
Thanks, Rob L
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Rob Lindauer
1 Oct
1 Oct
6:40 p.m.
New subject: "Notice of Nonrenewal" of group's general liability insurance
Investigate the National Folk Organization, which includes insurance as
part of an inexpensive annual group membership. I forget the carrier.
-- Alan
On 10/1/15 11:37 AM, Rob Lindauer via Organizers wrote:
Hartford Community Dance's insurance carrier
(Markel Insurance) just
notified us that they will not renew when our current policy expires
Dec 1. Apparently their underwriting guidelines have changed, and we
no longer meet their guidelines.
I'd appreciate suggestions on carriers. I think CDSS offers access to
liability insurance; I'll be talking to them shortly. Are there other
carriers dance groups (probably I should stick to US groups) have used
with good experience?
Thanks, Rob L
6:56 p.m.
New subject: "Notice of Nonrenewal" of group's general liability insurance
On 10/01/2015 11:40 AM, Alan Winston via Organizers wrote:
Investigate the National Folk Organization, which
includes insurance
as part of an inexpensive annual group membership. I forget the carrier.
Info about NFO's insurance can be found at
<http://www.nfo-usa.org/insurance.htm>. Information about CDSS's group
insurance can be found at
<http://www.cdss.org/group-liability-insurance.html>. Note that in both
cases, your group needs to be a member (in NFO's case) or affiliate (in
CDSS's case).
--Nick
7 p.m.
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The coverage offered by the National Folk Organization, if it covers community dance
series and/or weekends (ECD, contra, etc.), would be a bargain since the NFO membership
cost appears quite modest. Their website describes their insurance as follows: "The
National Folk Organization has liability insurance coverage available for its members who
lead dance classes. This insurance is free to NFO members and is provided through Marsh
Affinity Group Services, a service of Seabury & Smith, Inc. of Des Moines, Iowa."
So my question to NFO would be whether they would cover the kinds of dance events which,
e.g., our affiliate, North Bay Country Dance Society (NBCDS), puts on -- regular ECD and
contra dance series, Morris performances, dance weekends, etc. NBCDS is a CDSS affiliate
and gets our liability insurance through CDSS.
Full disclosure -- I am also a CDSS Board member and encourage dance organizations to be
members of and take advantage of CDSS services!
Craig Meltzner
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Investigate the National Folk Organization, which includes insurance as part of an
inexpensive annual group membership. I forget the carrier.
-- Alan
On 10/1/15 11:37 AM, Rob Lindauer via Organizers wrote:
Hartford Community Dance's insurance carrier
(Markel Insurance) just
notified us that they will not renew when our current policy expires
Dec 1. Apparently their underwriting guidelines have changed, and we
no longer meet their guidelines.
I'd appreciate suggestions on carriers. I think CDSS offers access to
liability insurance; I'll be talking to them shortly. Are there other
carriers dance groups (probably I should stick to US groups) have used
with good experience?
Thanks, Rob L
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CDSS is probably your best bet. I believe they work with Philadelphia
Insurance, and possibly a different broker could obtain a lower price
(though CDSS staff know what is important to dance organizations so what
they offer is more likely to be appropriate for you). State organizations
for nonprofits may have helpful resources. Connecticut's lists endorsed
services, including insurance, at: http://www.ctnonprofits.org/endorsed But
you would probably have to join the nonprofit association as well, which
reduces any discounts you might get. The Nonprofits Insurance Alliance
Group and its affiliate, Alliance of Nonprofits for Insurance, are an
option:
https://insurancefornonprofits.org/about/the-nonprofits-insurance-alliance-…
More expensive than CDSS's, but they offer webinars on insurance and
governance issues, and are generally helpful.
David
On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 2:37 PM, Rob Lindauer via Organizers <
organizers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Hartford Community Dance's insurance carrier
(Markel Insurance) just
notified us that they will not renew when our current policy expires Dec
1. Apparently their underwriting guidelines have changed, and we no longer
meet their guidelines.
I'd appreciate suggestions on carriers. I think CDSS offers access to
liability insurance; I'll be talking to them shortly. Are there other
carriers dance groups (probably I should stick to US groups) have used with
good experience?
Thanks, Rob L
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2 Oct
2 Oct
1:54 p.m.
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Orange Blossom Ball joined NFO 3 years ago with the intent of utilizing
their insurance for our Dance weekend. After about 12 attempts of trying
to contact NFO regarding their insurance over 3-4 months I gave up, didn't
stop them from asking for our membership renewal..still no answer when I
inquired six months later.
We now get coverage from CDSS...
david head orange
On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 4:10 PM, David Chandler via Organizers <
organizers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
CDSS is probably your best bet. I believe they work
with Philadelphia
Insurance, and possibly a different broker could obtain a lower price
(though CDSS staff know what is important to dance organizations so what
they offer is more likely to be appropriate for you). State organizations
for nonprofits may have helpful resources. Connecticut's lists endorsed
services, including insurance, at: http://www.ctnonprofits.org/endorsed But
you would probably have to join the nonprofit association as well, which
reduces any discounts you might get. The Nonprofits Insurance Alliance
Group and its affiliate, Alliance of Nonprofits for Insurance, are an
option:
https://insurancefornonprofits.org/about/the-nonprofits-insurance-alliance-…
More expensive than CDSS's, but they offer webinars on insurance and
governance issues, and are generally helpful.
David
On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 2:37 PM, Rob Lindauer via Organizers <
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David Fenwick
*Atlantic Property Management*
Economic professional management *Orange Blossom Contra Ball* Jan
15-17 2016
954-918-5884 Experienced
Dancer Weekend
Daytona Beach, FL
www.orangeblossomcontra.com
Hartford Community Dance's insurance carrier
(Markel Insurance) just
notified us that they will not renew when our current policy expires Dec
1. Apparently their underwriting guidelines have changed, and we no longer
meet their guidelines.
I'd appreciate suggestions on carriers. I think CDSS offers access to
liability insurance; I'll be talking to them shortly. Are there other
carriers dance groups (probably I should stick to US groups) have used with
good experience?
Thanks, Rob L
--
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2:15 p.m.
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Sorry to hear you've had a tough time with NFO.
FWIW, I've experienced the opposite, with quick response and effective
support even after their insurance chair passed away unexpectedly and they
had to find a new volunteer (they do appear to be single threaded in this
space as a small organization).
I have a personal membership as a caller and we have one for our weekly
dance series and both have had new policy coverage certificates sent out in
a timely manner annually.
Not to dispute your experience, just to share another data point.
-Don
On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 9:54 AM, David Fenwick via Organizers <
organizers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Orange Blossom Ball joined NFO 3 years ago with the
intent of utilizing
their insurance for our Dance weekend. After about 12 attempts of trying
to contact NFO regarding their insurance over 3-4 months I gave up, didn't
stop them from asking for our membership renewal..still no answer when I
inquired six months later.
We now get coverage from CDSS...
david head orange
2:26 p.m.
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My thanks to all who offered advice / experience on insurance.
We've ended up submitting an application for insurance thru CDSS, which
seemed the most straightforward solution since we're a CDSS affiliate.
I presume / hope there will be no issue getting approved.
(IIRC, we were insured thru CDSS long ago, but we went elsewhere - 10-15
years ago? - when CDSS for a time stopped their insurance program.)
Thanks again, RL
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Rob Lindauer
8:52 p.m.
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My experience over the last two years was different and much better. I got prompt r
spouses from Mars and from his replacement.
Alan Winston
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On Oct 2, 2015, at 6:54 AM, David Fenwick via
Organizers <organizers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Orange Blossom Ball joined NFO 3 years ago with the intent of utilizing their insurance
for our Dance weekend. After about 12 attempts of trying to contact NFO regarding their
insurance over 3-4 months I gave up, didn't stop them from asking for our membership
renewal..still no answer when I inquired six months later.
We now get coverage from CDSS...
david head orange
On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 4:10 PM, David Chandler
via Organizers <organizers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
CDSS is probably your best bet. I believe they work with Philadelphia Insurance, and
possibly a different broker could obtain a lower price (though CDSS staff know what is
important to dance organizations so what they offer is more likely to be appropriate for
you). State organizations for nonprofits may have helpful resources. Connecticut's
lists endorsed services, including insurance, at: http://www.ctnonprofits.org/endorsed But
you would probably have to join the nonprofit association as well, which reduces any
discounts you might get. The Nonprofits Insurance Alliance Group and its affiliate,
Alliance of Nonprofits for Insurance, are an option:
https://insurancefornonprofits.org/about/the-nonprofits-insurance-alliance-… More
expensive than CDSS's, but they offer webinars on insurance and governance issues, and
are generally helpful.
David
--
David Fenwick
Atlantic Property Management
Economic professional management Orange Blossom Contra Ball Jan 15-17 2016
954-918-5884 Experienced Dancer Weekend
Daytona Beach,
FL
www.orangeblossomcontra.com
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Hartford Community Dance's insurance carrier (Markel Insurance) just notified us that
they will not renew when our current policy expires Dec 1. Apparently their underwriting
guidelines have changed, and we no longer meet their guidelines.
I'd appreciate suggestions on carriers. I think CDSS offers access to liability
insurance; I'll be talking to them shortly. Are there other carriers dance groups
(probably I should stick to US groups) have used with good experience?
Thanks, Rob L
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