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Neat online event to share with your communities this weekend?

by Emily Addison

Hi fellow shared weight dance organizers :) It's been a long while since I've seen posts in our group and I've been curious how folks are doing. I also wanted to share notice of an online event happening this Sunday. ... it's a free (by donation) trad music/dance film festival and includes a few films featuring contra dance. Here's a link: http://portlandroadhouse.org/pages/schedule-2022.html?fbclid=IwAR3c30xqIOh5… I just shared it with our local dance community and thought some of you might enjoy doing the same. It's a nice way for folks to connect to the traditions they love even if they can't get out dancing right now for whatever reason. :) Emily in Ottawa

2 years, 9 months

Mailman upgrade and bounce notifications #Admin

by Seth Seeger

Hello SharedWeight community, I am the system administrator for sharedweight.net. Today, I upgraded the Mailman3 software that runs the lists. One of the new features in this version is automatic bounce processing. That means that if your email bounces a message back to the server enough times, your subscription will automatically be disabled. Unfortunately, it started counting bounces from a long time ago, instead of starting with a clean slate. Some of you may have received a notice that says your mailing list subscription has been disabled. I have re-enabled all subscriptions that were disabled today because of bounces. I'm hoping that today's upgrade also fixes the garbage characters that some of you see in your digests. Please let me know if you find any problems. Thank you for your patience, Seth

3 years, 1 month

CDSS workshop for organizers on cultural equity

by Emily Addison

Hi fellow dance organizers, Thought I'd share this here as it's a workshop that sounds pretty exciting -- I just signed up. :) CDSS is hosting a workshop with Dr. Dena Ross Jennings on Cultural Equity at the Local Level. Dena is familiar with many of our traditions --- she led cultural equity workshops at the Youth Trad Song weekend this year and she's the facilitator of CDSS's Cultural Equity Working Group. I attended Dena's workshops at YTS and they were fantastic. More info is below. (Heads up - you need to sign in through CDSS's web portal to register but that's pretty easy.) Emily Join us for our September Common Time, "Cultural Equity at the Local Level," with Dr. Dena Ross Jennings (of Imani Works <https://www.facebook.com/ImaniWorks/?__cft__[0]=AZXzvzQzigUKRxFpPv06VGBSpUX…> )! Cultural equity embodies the values, policies, and practices of providing equal access to the arts, including our shared dance, music, and song traditions, especially to people who historically have been underrepresented or denied access to those traditions. This means we are working to ensure that everyone who wants to participate in our traditions is empowered to do so with a full sense of belonging and ownership. This also means we are working to educate ourselves on the full history of the living traditions we share, including where and how these traditions have silenced and appropriated ideas from marginalized voices. But how does this work apply to local dance, music, and song organizations? How do our organizations and events need to change in order to be more equitable? And how do we begin to have these conversations? Join us as Dr. Dena Ross Jennings, facilitator of CDSS’s Cultural Equity Advisory Group, leads a presentation and discussion about cultural equity, appropriation versus appreciation, and the key element of communication that makes all of this work possible. Register at cdss.org/common-time <http://cdss.org/common-time?fbclid=IwAR0BEO-pLfYTci6BXKcoyn0lu39I8-aBf6-_aw…> .

3 years, 3 months

update on yesterday's ZOOM concert

by Heitzso

3 years, 3 months

Zoom concert, trying to get good sound, Sun 29th

by Heitzso

3 years, 3 months

Re: Dance Covid News and Off-Topic Conversation

by Liz Burkhart

As the original poster, I want to thank everyone who responded to my question about how people's dance communities have experienced reopening and also shutting down dances during this time. The information was useful to me. Our community has made its decision (predictably, we're not holding any in-person dances). I very much agree with Seth. As moderator, he has the power and indeed it is his role to keep conversation on-topic. This is internet etiquette. For whatever it's worth, I'm not interested in debating any covid health protocols. I don't think it's relevant to this particular conversation. If people want to keep talking about it, then they should find other avenues rather than to clog up this email thread. Thanks so much to everyone who participated in the discussion of whether anyone got sick at a dance (no one for certain) and about restarting and re-canceling dances (it has happened). Take care and be good to each other! Liz Burkhart On Thu, Aug 26, 2021, 1:01 AM <organizers-request(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > Send Organizers mailing list submissions to > organizers(a)lists.sharedweight.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or > body 'help' to > organizers-request(a)lists.sharedweight.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > organizers-owner(a)lists.sharedweight.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Organizers digest..."Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Vitamin D and Contra Dancing (Woody Lane) > 2. Re: Vitamin D and Contra Dancing (Dale Wilson) > 3. Re: Vitamin D and Contra Dancing (Seth Seeger) > 4. Re: Vitamin D and Contra Dancing (Ron Blechner) > 5. Re: Vitamin D and Contra Dancing (Alan J Rosenthal) > 6. Re: Vitamin D and Contra Dancing (Alex) > 7. List Guidelines (Seth Seeger) > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Woody Lane <woody(a)woodylane.com> > To: Weogo Reed via Organizers <organizers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2021 05:58:39 +0000 > Subject: [Organizers] Re: Vitamin D and Contra Dancing > Hi Everyone, > > Some basic info about vitamin D. [In my other non-dancing life, I am a > nutritionist -- a livestock nutritionist with a PhD from Cornell in Animal > Nutrition.] The last time I looked, people -- at least most of them, > including contra dancers -- have metabolic systems that are similar to > other mammals. > > A lot of health claims are attributed to vitamin D. There are some good > reasons for this, because Vitamin D is not a true vitamin; it's actually a > hormone hiding under the vitamin moniker. And very powerful in its actions. > The precursor to vitamin D is made in the skin by the application of > ultraviolet light, usually from the sun. It's also absorbed from > animal-based foods as vitamin D3. And from plant-based foods as vitamin D2. > Either way, all these molecules travel to the liver where they are all > changed into 25-D which is the form tested medically for blood levels. Then > 25-D goes to the kidney where it is converted to 1,25-D which is the actual > active molecule (technically named 1,25-dihydroxycalciferol). This form is > relatively short-lived in the blood which is why it is not the actual test > for vitamin D. Then 1,25-D is carried to all the cells in the body where it > does some heavy-duty tasks. This 1,25-D enters the cell and through a > complex series of steps, enters the nucleus where it affects the DNA. It > acts like a toggle switch to turn on or turn off genes -- more than a > thousand different genes -- which affect dozens of metabolic pathways. Some > include calcium absorption and metabolism which influences bone density, of > course; some involve the production of anti-microbial compounds; some > involve the control of cell growth; some involve the release of cytokines > which are small messenger molecules, etc. Importantly, the cytokines are > deeply involved in the immunological responses to diseases. And vitamin D > affects many other metabolic systems. > > Traditionally, the recommended nutritional levels of vitamin D were > designed to prevent rickets (and the adult version, osteomalacia) and also > osteoporosis. But that was the minimum. Recommended levels (Dietary > Reference Intakes, DRI) have increased in recent years as we've learned > more about vitamin D and its importance. DRI levels now are in the range of > 600-800 IU per day, depending on age (of the person, not of the bottle of > vitamins). Frankly, I think these are still on the low side, so personally > I routinely take a daily dose of 2,000 IU, and my blood levels of 25-D are > in the middle of the normal range. In reality, most people are generally > mildly-to-strongly deficient in vitamin D, primarily because during the day > they wear clothes and hats and apply sunscreen. OTOH, lots of sun has a > very strong tendency to lead to skin cancers. Ask any dermatologist. So a > pill containing vitamin D is a rational technique, although megadoses are > not recommended. > > Yes, vitamin D is involved with the immune system, but it is not a > treatment against viruses. It's a nutrient. Obtaining enough of it is a > good thing, and it will help maintain the immune system to its > functionality. But vitamin D is not a drug or a vaccine. > > But how can we, as dancers and dance organizers, use this information to > our benefit? In a humble attempt to contribute constructively to this > discussion as well as set a few records straight, here are some practical > suggestions: > > > * Dance contras and squares outdoors with no clothes on. > > * Do a lot of dancing because this word begins with the letter "D". > > * Never use sunblock when you dance indoors. > > * Eat highly bleached grass hay because it will have high levels of > vitamin D2. > > * Always dance full heys rather than half-heys because a full 16-count > "hay" can have twice as much vitamin D. > > * During the break, always go outdoors and sit in the sun. If there is no > sun, especially at night, sit under a heat lamp and make believe it's the > sun. > > * Don't eat any polar bear livers during the break because these can have > toxic levels of vitamin A, and A is only three letters away from D. > > In the hope of dancing together again before 2026, > Woody > > -- > Woody Lane > Caller, Percussive Dancer > Roseburg, Oregon > ------------------------------ > > > On 8/23/2021 8:25 AM, Weogo Reed via Organizers wrote: > > Vitamin D: > "Several recent studies have looked at the impact of vitamin D on > COVID-19. One study of 489 people found that those who had a vitamin D > deficiency were more likely to test positive for the virus that causes > COVID-19 than people who had normal levels of vitamin D. > Other research has observed high rates of vitamin D deficiency in > people with COVID-19 who experienced acute respiratory failure. These > people had a significantly higher risk of dying. And a small, randomized > study found that of 50 people hospitalized with COVID-19 who were given > a high dose of a type of vitamin D (calcifediol), only one needed > treatment in the intensive care unit. In contrast, among the 26 people > with COVID-19 who weren't given calcifediol, 13 needed to be treated in > the intensive care unit."https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/expert-answers/c… > Note that the current RDA(Recommended Daily Allowance) is for bone health. > For optimal health, it may be more. > > From Liz: > "Sunshine and fresh air will not keep you safe." > Partially correct. They can increase your health and improve your > body's covid response. > Sunshine helps your body produce Vitamin D. > Time outside for me generally equals exercise - in the garden, > doing construction, walking/hiking and more. > For the past year and a half, my one gig as a sound person was outside, > providing audio for > the local state university's graduation in May, with everybody masked > and spaced 6'. > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Dale Wilson <dale.wilson(a)gmail.com> > To: Organizers(a)lists.sharedweight.net > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2021 10:04:55 -0500 > Subject: [Organizers] Re: Vitamin D and Contra Dancing > There is a lot of misinformation out there about Covid-19 and various folk > remedies that are being recommended. Sometimes the people posting this > information say something like "Studies have shown.." or "In a recent > study..." > > Because misinformation can destroy people's lives (even if it doesn't kill > them) anyone posting information from a study should include references to > the original publications, or at least the name(s) of the author(s) of the > study and a mention of the peer-reviewed journal in which the study results > were published. > > Without this supporting information, the information is at best a > distraction, and at worst a death sentence for people who cannot be > vaccinated due to age or other physical limitation. > > Thank you for keeping this in mind, > > Dale Wilson > Childgrove (St. Louis) Board Member. > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Seth Seeger <seth(a)tofutavern.com> > To: Organizers(a)lists.sharedweight.net > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2021 11:10:11 -0400 > Subject: [Organizers] Re: Vitamin D and Contra Dancing > Hi everyone, > > It's absolutely time to stop. We can discuss COVID and how it relates to > organizing dances and when we should begin dancing again, but remedies, > vaccinations, and preventions are now off limits. I'm sorry! > > Seth > > On Aug 25, 2021, at 11:04 AM, Dale Wilson via Organizers < > organizers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > > There is a lot of misinformation out there about Covid-19 and various folk > remedies that are being recommended. Sometimes the people posting this > information say something like "Studies have shown.." or "In a recent > study..." > > Because misinformation can destroy people's lives (even if it doesn't kill > them) anyone posting information from a study should include references to > the original publications, or at least the name(s) of the author(s) of the > study and a mention of the peer-reviewed journal in which the study results > were published. > > Without this supporting information, the information is at best a > distraction, and at worst a death sentence for people who cannot be > vaccinated due to age or other physical limitation. > > Thank you for keeping this in mind, > > Dale Wilson > Childgrove (St. Louis) Board Member. > > > _______________________________________________ > Organizers mailing list -- organizers(a)lists.sharedweight.net > To unsubscribe send an email to organizers-leave(a)lists.sharedweight.net > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Ron Blechner <contraron(a)gmail.com> > To: Seth Seeger <seth(a)tofutavern.com> > Cc: organizers shared weight <Organizers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> > Bcc: > Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2021 11:23:18 -0400 > Subject: [Organizers] Re: Vitamin D and Contra Dancing > Vaccinations are the best way we get back to dancing. > I'm sorry, you cannot unilaterally demand that all organizers on this list > stop talking about the primary way to stop the virus that's killing 600,000 > plus Americans and has kept us away from dancing for a year and a half. > > On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 11:13 AM Seth Seeger via Organizers < > organizers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > >> Hi everyone, >> >> It's absolutely time to stop. We can discuss COVID and how it relates to >> organizing dances and when we should begin dancing again, but remedies, >> vaccinations, and preventions are now off limits. I'm sorry! >> >> Seth >> >> On Aug 25, 2021, at 11:04 AM, Dale Wilson via Organizers < >> organizers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: >> >> There is a lot of misinformation out there about Covid-19 and various >> folk remedies that are being recommended. Sometimes the people posting >> this information say something like "Studies have shown.." or "In a recent >> study..." >> >> Because misinformation can destroy people's lives (even if it doesn't >> kill them) anyone posting information from a study should include >> references to the original publications, or at least the name(s) of the >> author(s) of the study and a mention of the peer-reviewed journal in which >> the study results were published. >> >> Without this supporting information, the information is at best a >> distraction, and at worst a death sentence for people who cannot be >> vaccinated due to age or other physical limitation. >> >> Thank you for keeping this in mind, >> >> Dale Wilson >> Childgrove (St. Louis) Board Member. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Organizers mailing list -- organizers(a)lists.sharedweight.net >> To unsubscribe send an email to organizers-leave(a)lists.sharedweight.net >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Organizers mailing list -- organizers(a)lists.sharedweight.net >> To unsubscribe send an email to organizers-leave(a)lists.sharedweight.net >> > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Alan J Rosenthal <flaps(a)56789.ca> > To: Organizers(a)lists.sharedweight.net > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2021 11:34:45 -0400 > Subject: [Organizers] Re: Vitamin D and Contra Dancing > If some people want to talk about a (sub)topic and others don't, why not > create a separate mailing list for that topic? > > Then the discussion can continue unimpeded, without destroying this mailing > list. > > Because things like this DO destroy mailing lists, because people > unsubscribe > from a mailing list which is dominated by a topic they find unworthy. > Let's > give such people a different mailing list to unsubscribe from instead, and > divide topics between the two mailing lists appropriately. > > regards, > ajr > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Alex <alex.shevits(a)gmail.com> > To: organizers(a)lists.sharedweight.net > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2021 14:16:02 -0400 > Subject: [Organizers] Re: Vitamin D and Contra Dancing > I have been deleting without reading this list for a long time now, but > I have to weigh in with Alan Rosenthal. I unsubscribed from one of the > CDSS list because I felt it was inappropriately being used (abused) to > promote individual programs. I was getting ready to unsubscribe from > this list too. Not because of the subject, but because the topic just > didn't seem to know that it was done. Maybe having a time limit for > each topic and creating a new thread for (sub) topics would help. > > Soon to exit, maybe, > > Alex Shevits > > On 8/25/2021 11:34 AM, Alan J Rosenthal via Organizers wrote: > > If some people want to talk about a (sub)topic and others don't, why not > > create a separate mailing list for that topic? > > > > Then the discussion can continue unimpeded, without destroying this > mailing > > list. > > > > Because things like this DO destroy mailing lists, because people > unsubscribe > > from a mailing list which is dominated by a topic they find unworthy. > Let's > > give such people a different mailing list to unsubscribe from instead, > and > > divide topics between the two mailing lists appropriately. > > > > regards, > > ajr > > _______________________________________________ > > Organizers mailing list -- organizers(a)lists.sharedweight.net > > To unsubscribe send an email to organizers-leave(a)lists.sharedweight.net > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Seth Seeger <seth(a)tofutavern.com> > To: organizers shared weight <organizers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2021 14:40:23 -0400 > Subject: [Organizers] List Guidelines > Dear Organizers, > > First off, I'd like to say that I am the solo moderator here, and I don't > have a lot of time to spend on moderating this list. So please hang in > there with me as we work through this. > > Secondly, the focus of this list is about organizing and running dances. > In these times, we can expand that to include running dances safely in a > pandemic. That said, this is not a place to discuss different COVID > remedies. *The COVID-related topics on this list MUST be based on widely > accepted scientific solutions.* At the moment, that > includes vaccinations and wearing masks. The consensus of the medical > community is that the COVID vaccines are both extremely safe and extremely > effective at preventing serious infection. > > I need to draw a proactive line in the sand with these guidelines. > *Any discussions of COVID-related cures, preventions, medications, etc > that are not widely accepted will result in a warning. A second time will > result in being removed from the list.* > I understand that some of you may have been hurt or betrayed by our > medical community. And that in plenty of examples, the medical > establishment has been behind the times. However, we have a lot of > scientists right now looking at all things COVID. In order to maintain a > functional mailing list where everyone feels safe, we need to limit > conversations to currently, widely accepted solutions. > > If you have feedback or questions about this, please write to me directly, > off-list. > > Thank you, > Seth > > _______________________________________________ > Organizers mailing list -- organizers(a)lists.sharedweight.net > To unsubscribe send an email to organizers-leave(a)lists.sharedweight.net >

3 years, 3 months

List Guidelines

by Seth Seeger

Dear Organizers, First off, I'd like to say that I am the solo moderator here, and I don't have a lot of time to spend on moderating this list. So please hang in there with me as we work through this. Secondly, the focus of this list is about organizing and running dances. In these times, we can expand that to include running dances safely in a pandemic. That said, this is not a place to discuss different COVID remedies. The COVID-related topics on this list MUST be based on widely accepted scientific solutions. At the moment, that includes vaccinations and wearing masks. The consensus of the medical community is that the COVID vaccines are both extremely safe and extremely effective at preventing serious infection. I need to draw a proactive line in the sand with these guidelines. Any discussions of COVID-related cures, preventions, medications, etc that are not widely accepted will result in a warning. A second time will result in being removed from the list. I understand that some of you may have been hurt or betrayed by our medical community. And that in plenty of examples, the medical establishment has been behind the times. However, we have a lot of scientists right now looking at all things COVID. In order to maintain a functional mailing list where everyone feels safe, we need to limit conversations to currently, widely accepted solutions. If you have feedback or questions about this, please write to me directly, off-list. Thank you, Seth

3 years, 3 months

Re: Vitamin D and Contra Dancing

by Dale Wilson

There is a lot of misinformation out there about Covid-19 and various folk remedies that are being recommended. Sometimes the people posting this information say something like "Studies have shown.." or "In a recent study..." Because misinformation can destroy people's lives (even if it doesn't kill them) anyone posting information from a study should include references to the original publications, or at least the name(s) of the author(s) of the study and a mention of the peer-reviewed journal in which the study results were published. Without this supporting information, the information is at best a distraction, and at worst a death sentence for people who cannot be vaccinated due to age or other physical limitation. Thank you for keeping this in mind, Dale Wilson Childgrove (St. Louis) Board Member.

3 years, 3 months

Seeking news on covid infections from dances with vaccination

by Liz Burkhart

Hi all, with some dances resuming for the summer, I'd like to hear how that's been for dance communities. Have groups started and then stopped? Is there any news of infections from dance camps or weekends? I know Pinewoods heightened their requirements (from just vaccination to also multiple negative tests + masking for the first few days of American Week), and then cancelled the rest of their camps. Thanks, Liz Burkhart (she/her) Organizer with Lavender Country and Folk Dancers

3 years, 4 months

Re: Seeking news on covid infections from dances with vaccination

by Peter Martel

Thanks Paul, Trying to stay in the factual world and out of speculation and opinion. Sent from miHand, Peter NH > On Aug 24, 2021, at 12:44 AM, Paul Wilde <zenyente(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Peter, > > Beautifully said. Kudos for getting to the heart of the matter. > This is exactly how I feel. We have a huge responsibility to > the entire community within and beyond the dance halls. > > Thank you, > Paul W. > Prov RI

3 years, 4 months

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