With the current temps in the US at an alarming high, our dance hall has been running hot, with their one A/C unit cooling to 75-78 degrees while dancing. We keep it pretty windy, with lots of fans (quietest ones in the hall are small Lasko units and louder ones in the back).
That being said, at what point do you cancel the dance because of heat? Dancers are already complaining and all we can do is keep it windy. Of course, we could cut our losses if minimum capacity of dancers are not coming because of the heat. In the past & at another hall, we used to cancel all of August because of heat, but I don't know how you can make that call because you really don't know how it will feel (or how many dancers will attend) until you get there.
Deanna Palumbo
Chattahoochee Country Dancers, Atlanta, GA
We are starting to collect pictures and copy for performers coming to play
for our dances. I imagine that someday soon, we may start collecting
videos. These assets come to us in a variety of forms - docs, pictures,
links to web sites, text pasted into an email. Is there anyone who has any
experience handling such materials who can advise a good way to organize
them?
We have a club Google Apps subscription, so Drive would appear attractive
initially. However, we've had trouble figuring out how to organize
materials in Drive in a way that shares the organization. In addition, we
need a way to find the materials that have been stored.
Thanks!
Rich
Hi Marie-Michèle.
(And apologies to the group, I don't know how to make individual contact and this note seemed easiest.)
A friend of mine was a student at McGill about 5? maybe 7? years ago and did contradance there.
I loaned him several books to help get things started.
Contact me offline at bobfab(a)aol.com and I can connect you with him.
He may have some insights, and offered to speak with you.
Bob
bobfab(a)aol.com
Hello everyone!
I have recruited some of our younger dancers to start a contra club at
their university to help us bring in more people to our dances in an effort
to be sustainable. However, none of us are quite certain what's the best
way to proceed with this and what exactly to do with this club. Any of you
out there have associated university or college clubs? Could you put me in
contact with the people in charge so we can use their ideas and experience
with this?
Thanks!
Marie
ContraMontreal
Marie!
Let's chat at Ooh La La! I worked with my alma mater to create a contra
dance club when I was an alum living in the area working for a nonprofit
and students were interested in bringing contra to the campus.
I've also worked with a few other universities and students since then.
I've just seen your latest message regarding your campus decision to not
allow new clubs, I've seen similar situations occur as a result of schools
trying to direct students toward collaborative work. This was true for my
alma mater.
As a result the contra dances were "hosted" by a few already existing
organizations who agreed that contra fit their mission and had staff
members who wanted to support the club happening. Examples in our case
included the Center for Women & Gender Action, our non-secular Office of
Religious Life, Student Activities Office, and I think the Dance Department
as well as support from the Health &Wellness Office because it was an
alcohol-free event.
Anyway, it was a grand mix and as a result, they also helped with publicity
and talked it up a lot because they had a stake, if you will, in the
success of the endeavor.
Anyway, we shall see each other soon (right?! I hope so!) and I'll share
the many more thoughts, and details of how it came together, plus some
other examples I've been on the periphery of :)
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> Thanks Brian, this is very informative!
> Unfortunately I had a nasty surprise when I looked up how to create a club
> at McGill only to discover they currently do not allow new clubs because
> they have too many. I will have to rethink the idea. I didn't see any
> traditional music club in their listing, which is unfortunate as they may
> have been a good option for a partnership, but I will go through them all
> again to see if I can find an existing club that we might convince to work
> with us.
> Thank you everyone
> Marie
>
> On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 2:28 AM, Brian Gallagher via Organizers <
> organizers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>
> > Hello all-
> > While I do not currently work with a student organization at a
> university,
> > my profession is working with student orgs at universities.
> > Every school really is different in their bylaws and what is and is not
> ok.
> > I've seen a lot of different things to be successful.
> >
> > At one school in the south, the christian based organizations partnered
> > with the swing club and had a large swing dance which included a lesson.
> > They did this 4x per year and got a few hundred people each time (between
> > local swing dancers, students who were in the swing club, and then
> > christian students looking to learn or try something new).
> >
> > I think it is U of Chicago (or maybe it is UIC) that has a beautiful
> dance
> > hall, they use a student club to 'rent' the hall for occasional contra &
> > english dances.
> >
> > Most schools will require that your club have a faculty or staff advisor-
> > typically this person just signs paperwork. They may or may not be an
> > active member in the organization. Have your students go to their
> favorite
> > professor to ask them if they want to sign on.
> > As for what does the club do? It's really up to you- they can co-sponsor
> a
> > dance on the college campus, or just be an 'enthusiast' group (like ski
> > club) that meets every so often but the real purpose is to help
> coordinate
> > rides to the local dance. It all really depends on the momentum and what
> > resources the campus offers. Some campuses will allow you to apply for
> > funds (think the same as a federal or state government- so, this is a
> once
> > a year type process most often - requires pre-planning, not a last moment
> > thing).
> >
> > Most schools will require your club to have a constitution- they should
> > have a template for you to follow. The club will also need X officers
> and Y
> > members to be a 'real' club. The school should have some sort of
> > administrator (person in my type of job) who can help guide you with this
> > stuff. If you message me (off the list) the name of the university, I
> > could do some looking around to see if I know the person or can find
> their
> > name on a website for you.
> >
> > Feel free to contact me off-list if you need more help & good luck!
> > Sometimes the 'college club' is a great thing & sometimes it is... not
> > really worth all of the effort. Usually it all rides on how much effort
> (&
> > time) the individual student is willing to put into the project- with
> > balancing it with their classes, part time job, sweeties...etc.
> >
> > Brian
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 11:42 PM Mary Anne Eason via Organizers <
> > organizers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
> >
> >> The University of Maine in Orono has a Traditional Music and Dance Club
> >> dance which promotes contra as well as other kinds of dance (though
> >> essentially now I don't think it does anything but contra). In the past
> >> they hosted a few small contras on campus (in dorms, the dining hall or
> a
> >> large hallway somewhere where there was exposure to other students).
> >> Recently they have gotten funds from the student government which covers
> >> the entrance fee for students to the local dance each month in Orono
> plus
> >> free pizza! The contact person is Anthony Viselli,
> >> anthony.viselli(a)maine.edu, who also heads up the band that plays at
> that
> >> contra.
> >>
> >> Mary Anne
> >>
> >> On 6/20/2016 1:56 PM, Erik Erhardt via Organizers wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Marie,
> >>
> >> A little history for our group, then a suggestion that we plan to follow
> >> this coming year:
> >>
> >> At the University of New Mexico (unmcontra.org) FolkMADS (our local
> folk
> >> dance org, folkmads.org) put on 8 dances in year Aug 2014 - May 2015,
> >> then we formed a student organization and put on 8 dances, the last 4
> with
> >> a student band Aug 2015 - May 2016. We've had low attendance (10-30
> >> dancers, about half students), but with returning regular dancers.
> We've
> >> put in a lot of energy without much growth, though the student band (
> >> http://www.clarabyom.com/rusty-tap.html) was a very positive outcome.
> >>
> >> This coming year we plan to *partner with other large student
> >> organizations and put on joint events*. This will help guarantee larger
> >> dances, will help with advertising, and will get people who already know
> >> each other to dance together. I think this will increase the appeal of
> the
> >> dance.
> >> We can also do more if we leverage ways to use student organization
> funds.
> >>
> >> Good luck!
> >> Erik Erhardt
> >> (505)480-4462 StatAcumen.com
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 11:34 AM, Marie-Mich?le Fournier <
> >> <organizers(a)lists.sharedweight.net>organizers(a)lists.sharedweight.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hello everyone!
> >>> I have recruited some of our younger dancers to start a contra
> club
> >>> at their university to help us bring in more people to our dances in an
> >>> effort to be sustainable. However, none of us are quite certain what's
> the
> >>> best way to proceed with this and what exactly to do with this club.
> Any of
> >>> you out there have associated university or college clubs? Could you
> put me
> >>> in contact with the people in charge so we can use their ideas and
> >>> experience with this?
> >>> Thanks!
> >>> Marie
> >>> ContraMontreal
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Hi all!
Writing in my role as an organizer of the new second Saturday Montpelier
Contra Exchange series: http://www.contraexchange.org/. We are trying to
figure out a band/caller payment amount that works for both us and the
talent.
So — simple question: How much to do pay your musicians and caller? Do you
have a guarantee, and if so, is it per person or for everyone, no matter
the band size? Do you do profit sharing on top of that?
(I will say that the well-established Montpelier dance on first and third
Saturdays, which I also help organize, has a guarantee of $650 to be split
among musicians and caller, with additional payment for sound. We share
additional profit based on attendance, once our expenses are paid for and
some money saved back for dances we need to subsidize.)
Thanks!
Dana
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Montpelier, Vermont
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I just got a letter from ASCAP asking payment of license fees for use of
recorded and copyright materials at our dances.
If my organization ran just our contra dances, I'd tell them to take a
hike - or not respond at all - with the argument that our contras use
only traditional public domain music, and not recorded music nor
copyright arrangements.
However, my organization also has waltz, swing, DJ, and Cajun/zydeco
series, where I don't think I can make the same assertion.
The net is I'll probably go ahead and pay.
My question: What encounters (and resolutions) have other groups had
with ASCAP (and BMI too, for that matter).
Thanks, RL
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Rob Lindauer
Thanks Koren, I'll give it a try. In a quick review it looks a lot like
what I was working on myself, without obviously being 100% customized to
our purpose. Happy to accept something that's done/tested now and mostly
matches our needs and then put something else in place which takes the
output the rest of the way.
-Don
On Jun 9, 2016 2:06 PM, "Koren A. Wake" <koren.a.wake(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I'm coming very late to this topic, sorry... but since I don't see anyone
else having mentioned this, I wanted to chime in. The blues dance I now run
in Seattle uses Square to track attendance and cash. It's simple to set up
and our door volunteers seem happy with it. We charge a sliding scale and
just have separate "items" for each dollar amount. When we used to have
"regular" and "student" prices we had buttons for those as well, and a
custom price item for donations. Square automatically tracks the number of
each item sold, and the times.
On a tablet (we use an iPad, and I would assume it works on an Android
tablet as well), Square also does cash drawer tracking -- enter your
starting cash, track transactions, and enter your final counts; it'll tell
you whether you're off and by how much. It does not allow for cash drawer
tracking through the phone app, though. I'm not sure why not, or whether
they're going to add it eventually.
And of course, Square allows us to take credit cards too, which has pros
and cons but overall I'm very much in favor of it.
Koren
On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 12:53 PM Don Veino via Organizers <
organizers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
> Just in case there was any question, we have absolute trust in our
> volunteers and have had no instances of door sitter cheating (a tiny
> minority of dancers on the other hand... but I digress). The impetus for my
> original investigation is solely operational efficiency - making it easier
> for our volunteers and ourselves as organizers. It would be nice to
> actually be able to dance at our own dances more often. :)
>
> On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 5:54 PM, Dan Pearl via Organizers <
> organizers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>
>> We operate on a basis of trust with our door-sitters and the mix of
>> adult/youth varies during the year in unsurprising ways -- we just don't
>> feel like we need to capture that information.
>>
>> 4. Any system can be compromised by crooked door-sitter. They can wink
>> at their friends and wave them in for no fee. They could pocket some money
>> and not click the tally counter or put a tick-mark on the paper. Anything!
>>
>
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Koren,
Square sounds great. Can you tell me the cost of using it? Is there additional cost for credit cards?
Thank you!
Claire Takemori ( South Bay Contra, SF Bay area)
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I'm coming very late to this topic, sorry... but since I don't see anyone
else having mentioned this, I wanted to chime in. The blues dance I now run
in Seattle uses Square to track attendance and cash. It's simple to set up
and our door volunteers seem happy with it. We charge a sliding scale and
just have separate "items" for each dollar amount. When we used to have
"regular" and "student" prices we had buttons for those as well, and a
custom price item for donations. Square automatically tracks the number of
each item sold, and the times.
On a tablet (we use an iPad, and I would assume it works on an Android
tablet as well), Square also does cash drawer tracking -- enter your
starting cash, track transactions, and enter your final counts; it'll tell
you whether you're off and by how much. It does not allow for cash drawer
tracking through the phone app, though. I'm not sure why not, or whether
they're going to add it eventually.
And of course, Square allows us to take credit cards too, which has pros
and cons but overall I'm very much in favor of it.
Koren