17 Jun
2015
17 Jun
'15
2:56 p.m.
Michael Fuerst said, "To me one of the more challenging to describe
succinctly is ricochet heys".
One of the challenges of a Ricochet Hey is the name - it is not actually a
Hey in any sense of the word, though Ricochets mixed with Half Heys do make
pleasing figures.
I have had a few challenges with this as well, but in trying to think of a
way to do it better, I just had a major breakthrough... I think!
I just realised that a Ricochet Hey is actually a Mad Robin in which the
people passing through the middle interact with each other.
So, next time I teach it I am going to try getting the dancers to do a Mad
Robin first then get them to change their path from a rectangle to a pizza
slice and touch hands in the middle.
Does that make sense?
Happy dancing,
John
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17 Jun
17 Jun
7:53 p.m.
New subject: [Callers] How to Describe a Ricochet Hey
Except that one should be able to teach "Mad Robin" without calling is
such Michael Fuerst 802 N Broadway Urbana IL 61801 217 239 5844
On Wednesday, June 17, 2015 9:56 AM, John Sweeney via Callers
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Michael Fuerst said, "To me one of the more challenging to describe
succinctly is ricochet heys".
One of the challenges of a Ricochet Hey is the name - it is not actually a
Hey in any sense of the word, though Ricochets mixed with Half Heys do make
pleasing figures.
I have had a few challenges with this as well, but in trying to think of a
way to do it better, I just had a major breakthrough... I think!
I just realised that a Ricochet Hey is actually a Mad Robin in which the
people passing through the middle interact with each other.
So, next time I teach it I am going to try getting the dancers to do a Mad
Robin first then get them to change their path from a rectangle to a pizza
slice and touch hands in the middle.
Does that make sense?
Happy dancing,
John
John Sweeney, Dancer, England john(a)modernjive.com 01233 625 362
http://www.contrafusion.co.uk for Dancing in Kent
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18 Jun
18 Jun
1:15 p.m.
New subject: [Callers] How to Describe a Ricochet Hey
<humor>So to teach you nuclear physics I'm going to start with molecular
biology?</humor>
If they don't know the ricochet hey, they probably won't know the Mad
Robin, and you will simply confuse them trying to teach two moves one of
which they don't need for this dance.
Also forget pizza's. Here in Saint Louis pizzas are sliced in squares
(grin).
My approach:
*Gents* look at each other. Now look at your neighbor. When I say 'GO'
(not now) you will meet in the center and push back to your neighbor's
place.
*Ladies *look at your neighbor. He is headed for your spot so you'd better
move. When I say GO (not now) ladies move over to your neighbor's empty
spot.
GO.
Good. That's half of the move. Now do it again with the ladies meeting in
the center then pushing back to their original spot while the gents move
back to their original spot.
GO.
Let't the full move one more time all together. [At speed] Gents to the
center and push back, Ladies to the center and push back.
Congratulations you know how to do a ricochet hey. The next move is....
Dale
On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Michael Fuerst via Callers <
callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Except that one should be able to teach "Mad
Robin" without calling is
such
Michael Fuerst 802 N Broadway Urbana IL 61801 217 239 5844
On Wednesday, June 17, 2015 9:56 AM, John Sweeney via Callers <
callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Michael Fuerst said, "To me one of the more challenging to describe
succinctly is ricochet heys".
One of the challenges of a Ricochet Hey is the name - it is not actually a
Hey in any sense of the word, though Ricochets mixed with Half Heys do make
pleasing figures.
I have had a few challenges with this as well, but in trying to think of a
way to do it better, I just had a major breakthrough... I think!
I just realised that a Ricochet Hey is actually a Mad Robin in which the
people passing through the middle interact with each other.
So, next time I teach it I am going to try getting the dancers to do a Mad
Robin first then get them to change their path from a rectangle to a pizza
slice and touch hands in the middle.
Does that make sense?
Happy dancing,
John
John Sweeney, Dancer, England john(a)modernjive.com 01233 625 362
http://www.contrafusion.co.uk for Dancing in Kent
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19 Jun
19 Jun
11:04 a.m.
New subject: [Callers] How to Describe a Ricochet Hey
I'm asking myself why not demo a ricochet? In my mind there are some
advantages to demonstrating a move instead of describing it (or doing
both with a wireless mic).
My experience is most contra callers are highly educated and have
exceptional verbal skills. Maybe some callers don't value a good
demonstration. Or is a demonstration too beneath some of us? One of
my calling students told me that I failed as a caller because I
demonstrated a move.
My own view is that watching and learning is an integral part of
being human. We could make a long list of older skills (like
hunting) or newer ones like learning to play a musical instrument
where watching and imitating is the key to learning.
I recently took an informal workshop on dance history. The teachers
pointed out that when people watch something, appropriate synapses
fire in preparation for performing a task. This physiological
response helps the person actually learn a task better.
T
6:45 p.m.
New subject: [Callers] How to Describe a Ricochet Hey
On 6/19/2015 4:04 AM, Tom Hinds via Callers wrote:
I'm asking myself why not demo a ricochet? In my
mind there are some
advantages to demonstrating a move instead of describing it (or doing
both with a wireless mic).
My experience is most contra callers are highly educated and have
exceptional verbal skills. Maybe some callers don't value a good
demonstration. Or is a demonstration too beneath some of us? One of my
calling students told me that I failed as a caller because I
demonstrated a move.
Why should you be limited to only one way of explaining a move?
Demonstrations are incredibly powerful teaching tools. I use demos a
lot, mostly for moves that are a little out of the ordinary, or when
there's a particular thing in the move that I want to stress. And when
the caller is demonstrating, say, a ricochet hey, they're also
demonstrating a lot of other things in the process -- good eye contact,
hand connections, tracking on the other dancers...
Kalia
8:01 p.m.
New subject: [Callers] How to Describe a Ricochet Hey
I concur: a demonstration is usually very helpful for my learning
something. I am very visual, and the use of too many words confuses
me. I have many "Ah HA!" moments while seeing a demonstration. Phooey
on those who poo-poo them.
-Amy in Seattle
On Jun 19, 2015, at 4:04 AM, Tom Hinds via Callers
<callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
I'm asking myself why not demo a ricochet? In my mind there are some advantages to
demonstrating a move instead of describing it (or doing both with a wireless mic).
My experience is most contra callers are highly educated and have exceptional verbal
skills. Maybe some callers don't value a good demonstration. Or is a demonstration
too beneath some of us? One of my calling students told me that I failed as a caller
because I demonstrated a move.
My own view is that watching and learning is an integral part of being human. We could
make a long list of older skills (like hunting) or newer ones like learning to play a
musical instrument where watching and imitating is the key to learning.
I recently took an informal workshop on dance history. The teachers pointed out that
when people watch something, appropriate synapses fire in preparation for performing a
task. This physiological response helps the person actually learn a task better.
T
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18 Jun
2:17 p.m.
New subject: [Callers] How to Describe a Ricochet Hey
On Wed, Jun 17, 2015, John Sweeney via Callers wrote:
I just realised that a Ricochet Hey is actually a Mad Robin in which the
people passing through the middle interact with each other.
So, next time I teach it I am going to try getting the dancers to do a Mad
Robin first then get them to change their path from a rectangle to a pizza
slice and touch hands in the middle.
Does that make sense?
After reading other comments: some people do Mad Robin like a Ricochet
Hey anyway, so if you really want to use that as an example (and assuming
the dancers already know Mad Robin, which is the only time it makes sense
as a building block), you need to emphasize that people should do a
normal Mad Robin. ;-)
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