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Re: [Callers] Contras which feature a "Dublin Bay" figure

by Linda Leslie via Callers

Al Olson used the move in his dance “Leaving Home”. It was published in Give & Take by Larry Jennings in 2004. Larry spent a number of years putting this book together, so the dance was written well before this. I did not find the dance in Zesty Contras, Larry’s fist book, published in 1988; but this might mean that Larry did not have space to include it, rather than it had not been written yet. If I were of a betting nature…..I would bet that the dance was from the 1980’s, maybe 1990’s. Linda On Jan 16, 2017, at 5:20 PM, Tavi Merrill via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > > Dance genealogy question: The figure first appearing in "Dublin Bay" (aka "We'll Wed and We'll Bed," its title in Playford) morphed in contra into a modified "lines of four down the hall." > > I know a version of it from Sue Rosen's dance "Handsome Young Maids," where dancers facing down take four steps forwards, turn alone, and continue down the hall with four backward steps, then repeat the figure to return up the hall. > > I'm curious how many other contras this figure, or a version of it, appears in. Does anyone know of other dances? And any astute dance historians out there know what the first contra to use this figure is? > > Tavi > _______________________________________________ > Callers mailing list > Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net > http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net

7 years, 11 months

Re: [Callers] Contras which feature a "Dublin Bay" figure

by Mac Mckeever via Callers

One I call frequently is Jim's Reel by Steve Snurr A1 Do Si Di N 1 1/4 ti WL - ladies in center, Rt hand to N Remember this WL - we will come back to it Bal Line - Trun N by R 1/2 - Gents pull by LA2 B&SW PB1 Down hall 4 steps - turn alone - back up 4 steps For 4 steps - turn alone back up 4 stepsB2 Cir L 5 places until you can collapse to original WL Bal (on last 4 beats)A1 walk for to new N - as dance starts over Great dance Mac McKeever From: Tavi Merrill via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> To: callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 4:20 PM Subject: [Callers] Contras which feature a "Dublin Bay" figure Dance genealogy question: The figure first appearing in "Dublin Bay" (aka "We'll Wed and We'll Bed," its title in Playford) morphed in contra into a modified "lines of four down the hall." I know a version of it from Sue Rosen's dance "Handsome Young Maids," where dancers facing down take four steps forwards, turn alone, and continue down the hall with four backward steps, then repeat the figure to return up the hall. I'm curious how many other contras this figure, or a version of it, appears in. Does anyone know of other dances? And any astute dance historians out there know what the first contra to use this figure is? Tavi _______________________________________________ Callers mailing list Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net

7 years, 11 months

Re: [Callers] Totals for taxes

by Rich Sbardella via Callers

Here is a page from the IRS website regarding hobby vs for profit business. https://www.irs.gov/uac/is-your-hobby-a-for-profit-endeavor Rich Sbardella On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 8:58 AM, Tony Parkes via Callers < callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > Luke Donforth wrote: > > <<I've already had two inquiries, so I should specify, the $8000 was > income paid not counting airplane tickets. It didn't remove mileage > reimbursement, CDSS membership and insurance, etc. > > Net comes to about $5000.>> > > > > Luke, does your “net” figure represent what you have left after **all** > expenses? Have you deducted 54 cents per mile driven (the IRS rate for > 2016), whether or not you were reimbursed? (The alternative is to figure > actual car expenses and deduct the percentage of those that corresponds to > business use of the car, but it’s simpler to take the mileage allowance.) > If you own any sound equipment, whether it’s a mic or a full system, have > you expensed or depreciated each piece? (I’m not an accountant, but our > accountants have always told us it’s OK to expense relatively small > purchases rather than bother with depreciating them.) > > > > The one expense we don’t bother listing is meals on the road. The IRS > allows only 50 percent of those to be written off (rule adopted in response > to the three-martini business lunch); much of the time we get fed by our > hosts; we tend to eat cheaply when we’re paying out of pocket; and we > figure we would have spent that much on food anyway. But all other expenses > get itemized on Schedule C. > > > > In a typical year our net (taxable) figure is less than half our gross. I > agree that it’s a good idea to think about these things as one weighs how > intently to pursue calling or playing for dances. I used to go anywhere for > any amount of money, just for the joy of calling. Somewhere along the line > I realized that I was losing money on many of my gigs, and I got more > careful about pay scale vs. distance traveled. > > > > For many years my rule has been “for love or money” – both is better, but > one or the other is essential. If I suspect it’s going to be a tough gig > (e.g. an open bar or a “family” dance where the parents won’t join in), I > quote high enough that I won’t kick myself later. Conversely, I’ll go out > for short money if it’s a chance to work with some treasured > friends/colleagues, or if it’s a new series that wants help getting off the > ground, or if I get to call lots of Merry-Go-Round-type squares <evil grin>. > > > > Not specifically addressed to Luke: There’s a common belief that if the > IRS decides your calling or playing is a hobby, you’re not allowed to > deduct any expenses. On this subject, the IRS says only that losses can’t > exceed gross income, so presumably you can deduct expenses down to the > break-even point. Note that if you’ve made a profit in three of the last > five years including the most recent year, the IRS assumes it’s a > legitimate business. > > > > Tony Parkes > > Billerica, Mass. > > > > *From:* Callers [mailto:callers-bounces@lists.sharedweight.net] *On > Behalf Of *Luke Donforth via Callers > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 17, 2017 7:56 AM > *To:* Callers(a)Lists.Sharedweight.net > *Subject:* Re: [Callers] Totals for taxes > > > > I've already had two inquires, so I should specify, the $8000 was income > paid not counting airplane tickets. It didn't remove mileage reimbursement, > CDSS membership and insurance, etc. > > Net comes to about $5000. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Callers mailing list > Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net > http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net > >

7 years, 11 months

Re: [Callers] Totals for taxes

by Tony Parkes via Callers

Luke Donforth wrote: <<I've already had two inquiries, so I should specify, the $8000 was income paid not counting airplane tickets. It didn't remove mileage reimbursement, CDSS membership and insurance, etc. Net comes to about $5000.>> Luke, does your “net” figure represent what you have left after *all* expenses? Have you deducted 54 cents per mile driven (the IRS rate for 2016), whether or not you were reimbursed? (The alternative is to figure actual car expenses and deduct the percentage of those that corresponds to business use of the car, but it’s simpler to take the mileage allowance.) If you own any sound equipment, whether it’s a mic or a full system, have you expensed or depreciated each piece? (I’m not an accountant, but our accountants have always told us it’s OK to expense relatively small purchases rather than bother with depreciating them.) The one expense we don’t bother listing is meals on the road. The IRS allows only 50 percent of those to be written off (rule adopted in response to the three-martini business lunch); much of the time we get fed by our hosts; we tend to eat cheaply when we’re paying out of pocket; and we figure we would have spent that much on food anyway. But all other expenses get itemized on Schedule C. In a typical year our net (taxable) figure is less than half our gross. I agree that it’s a good idea to think about these things as one weighs how intently to pursue calling or playing for dances. I used to go anywhere for any amount of money, just for the joy of calling. Somewhere along the line I realized that I was losing money on many of my gigs, and I got more careful about pay scale vs. distance traveled. For many years my rule has been “for love or money” – both is better, but one or the other is essential. If I suspect it’s going to be a tough gig (e.g. an open bar or a “family” dance where the parents won’t join in), I quote high enough that I won’t kick myself later. Conversely, I’ll go out for short money if it’s a chance to work with some treasured friends/colleagues, or if it’s a new series that wants help getting off the ground, or if I get to call lots of Merry-Go-Round-type squares <evil grin>. Not specifically addressed to Luke: There’s a common belief that if the IRS decides your calling or playing is a hobby, you’re not allowed to deduct any expenses. On this subject, the IRS says only that losses can’t exceed gross income, so presumably you can deduct expenses down to the break-even point. Note that if you’ve made a profit in three of the last five years including the most recent year, the IRS assumes it’s a legitimate business. Tony Parkes Billerica, Mass. From: Callers [mailto:callers-bounces@lists.sharedweight.net] On Behalf Of Luke Donforth via Callers Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 7:56 AM To: Callers(a)Lists.Sharedweight.net Subject: Re: [Callers] Totals for taxes I've already had two inquires, so I should specify, the $8000 was income paid not counting airplane tickets. It didn't remove mileage reimbursement, CDSS membership and insurance, etc. Net comes to about $5000.

7 years, 11 months

Re: [Callers] Totals for taxes

by Luke Donforth via Callers

I've already had two inquires, so I should specify, the $8000 was income paid not counting airplane tickets. It didn't remove mileage reimbursement, CDSS membership and insurance, etc. Net comes to about $5000. On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 11:25 PM, Luke Donforth <luke.donev(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hello all, > > 2016 is done, which for me means I can total up my calling for taxes and > such. > > It doesn't come up here very often; but payment and mileage and whatnot is > the unglamorous logistics side of calling. I figure it's worth sharing that > type of information as well, so folks can be informed as they think about > ramping up their calling. > > I'm rounding, but in looking back at 2016 in review, it comes to roughly:: > 50 gigs > 30 night on the road > 10000 miles flown > 5000 miles driven > Earned $8000 > > A gig there is everything from fundraisers for the local library to week > long dance camps. > > I apologize if that seems forward. It's information that I'd would have > liked to have had to weigh as I started calling; and as I balance my > calling against my day job and my time with family. > > I'm curious to hear what others are willing to share (on list, or > privately) about their own financial/mileage impacts. I can break things > out in private conversations if anyone wants to get into the weeds. (I > admit, I like the occasional foray into data analysis). > > Happy new year to you all! I hope you're calling as much as you want, and > that your taxes are easy! > > -- > Luke Donforth > Luke.Donforth(a)gmail.com <Luke.Donev(a)gmail.com> > -- Luke Donforth Luke.Donforth(a)gmail.com <Luke.Donev(a)gmail.com>

7 years, 11 months

[Callers] Totals for taxes

by Luke Donforth via Callers

Hello all, 2016 is done, which for me means I can total up my calling for taxes and such. It doesn't come up here very often; but payment and mileage and whatnot is the unglamorous logistics side of calling. I figure it's worth sharing that type of information as well, so folks can be informed as they think about ramping up their calling. I'm rounding, but in looking back at 2016 in review, it comes to roughly:: 50 gigs 30 night on the road 10000 miles flown 5000 miles driven Earned $8000 A gig there is everything from fundraisers for the local library to week long dance camps. I apologize if that seems forward. It's information that I'd would have liked to have had to weigh as I started calling; and as I balance my calling against my day job and my time with family. I'm curious to hear what others are willing to share (on list, or privately) about their own financial/mileage impacts. I can break things out in private conversations if anyone wants to get into the weeds. (I admit, I like the occasional foray into data analysis). Happy new year to you all! I hope you're calling as much as you want, and that your taxes are easy! -- Luke Donforth Luke.Donforth(a)gmail.com <Luke.Donev(a)gmail.com>

7 years, 12 months

Re: [Callers] Four face fours

by Don Veino via Callers

BTW, here's the referenced Boston Cream Pie. -Don *Boston Cream Pie - 4F4 - Don Veino* (B2 riff off Lynne Ackerson's Coconut Creme Pie) A1 LLFB Center 4 Star Right 1x A2 Partner Allemande Left 1+1/2x (new) Center 4 Start Right 1x B1 Partner Balance & Swing B2 Current Ring/8 Balance, California Twirl (to facing prior Neighbors) LH Gent Tow Your Line (in an arc, over left shoulder) to face new Line/4 On Sat, Jan 7, 2017 at 11:03 PM, Don Veino <sharedweight_net(a)veino.com> wrote: > [snip] > On your other questions, Lynne Ackerson's Coconut Cream Pie is a fave as > it's interesting yet bulletproof with mixed crowds (and I use it so much, I > wrote another dance leveraged from it to have some variation - Boston Cream > Pie). [/snip] >

7 years, 12 months

Re: [Callers] Contras which feature a "Dublin Bay" figure

by Martha Wild via Callers

Note that the Scottish “Gay Gordons” dance, which has been a standard there for I don’t know how long, features a promenade where couples walk forward then turn and continue backward, then come back forward and turn and continue backing up again. Doing four instead of two in line would seem a likely evolution. Martha > On Jan 16, 2017, at 2:20 PM, Tavi Merrill via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > > > Dance genealogy question: The figure first appearing in "Dublin Bay" (aka "We'll Wed and We'll Bed," its title in Playford) morphed in contra into a modified "lines of four down the hall." > > I know a version of it from Sue Rosen's dance "Handsome Young Maids," where dancers facing down take four steps forwards, turn alone, and continue down the hall with four backward steps, then repeat the figure to return up the hall. > > I'm curious how many other contras this figure, or a version of it, appears in. Does anyone know of other dances? And any astute dance historians out there know what the first contra to use this figure is? > > Tavi > _______________________________________________ > Callers mailing list > Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net > http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net

7 years, 12 months

Re: [Callers] Contras which feature a "Dublin Bay" figure

by Karl via Callers

It's a Scottish figure called 'Gay Gorden'. I know it's in other dances but not sure about Contras outside of Handsome Young Maids'. One of my favorites. On January 16, 2017 5:20:15 PM EST, Tavi Merrill via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: >Dance genealogy question: The figure first appearing in "Dublin Bay" >(aka >"We'll Wed and We'll Bed," its title in Playford) morphed in contra >into a >modified "lines of four down the hall." > >I know a version of it from Sue Rosen's dance "Handsome Young Maids," >where >dancers facing down take four steps forwards, turn alone, and continue >down >the hall with four backward steps, then repeat the figure to return up >the >hall. > >I'm curious how many other contras this figure, or a version of it, >appears >in. Does anyone know of other dances? And any astute dance historians >out >there know what the first contra to use this figure is? > >Tavi > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Callers mailing list >Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net >http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

7 years, 12 months

[Callers] Contras which feature a "Dublin Bay" figure

by Tavi Merrill via Callers

Dance genealogy question: The figure first appearing in "Dublin Bay" (aka "We'll Wed and We'll Bed," its title in Playford) morphed in contra into a modified "lines of four down the hall." I know a version of it from Sue Rosen's dance "Handsome Young Maids," where dancers facing down take four steps forwards, turn alone, and continue down the hall with four backward steps, then repeat the figure to return up the hall. I'm curious how many other contras this figure, or a version of it, appears in. Does anyone know of other dances? And any astute dance historians out there know what the first contra to use this figure is? Tavi

7 years, 12 months

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