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Re: [Callers] Another vote for "jets" and "rubies"

by Cara Sawyer via Callers

Hi everyone again, Angela, Jeff thank you. I appreciate knowing the emotional attachment many had to the history of these calling terms. I had no clue. From where I was coming from, it was more of a logistical question for my calling aspirations, trying to figure out what is easiest for the dancers to understand. I have had personal experience with it being difficult to remember if I was a Band or Bare, it seems arbitrary and now I see that this is intentional. It is good to hear some of the rationale and what others have experienced. Best, Cara Sent to you using thumbs. > On Jan 18, 2017, at 18:59, Jeff Kaufman <jeff.t.kaufman(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Cara! > > There is definitely a history! Many dancers don't like lead/follow as terms because they either don't think contra has a lead/follow dynamic or they don't want to encourage lead/follow dancing. > > Some dance series, primarily ones with younger dancers, do use those terms, but there are enough dancers opposed to them that I don't see them as a potential community-wide replacement the way rubies/jets could be. > > Jeff > >> On Jan 18, 2017 7:53 PM, "Cara Sawyer via Callers" <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: >> Hello all, >> I am quite new to the list and am only now embarking on learning to call, but I have to ask a question I have had for awhile as a dancer that I now need to understand as a caller: is there something wrong with Lead and Follow? >> >> When I first encountered the creative alternatives in contra, I wasn't sure what to think. I came to contra from a swing background and that is what is used in workshops (and sort or in general now), since many people switch in that dance style as well. >> >> Besides being an obvious description for the dancer role, it had the same 1/2 syllables rhythm as Gent/Lady. And it seems to me to have the advantage of being intuitively linked to how the dancer is thinking about his/her/their role. >> >> Just curious if there is a history, I'm sure I am not the first person to think of this. >> >> Thanks! >> Cara >> >> Sent to you using thumbs. >> >>> On Jan 18, 2017, at 10:40, Angela DeCarlis via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: >>> >>> When I called at PICD (the Portland ME dance), I really enjoyed using Jets and Rubies. One silly thing I enjoyed any the terms during the beginners' lesson was coaching palm direction based on the terms: "Jets' palms face up, towards the sky; Rubies' palms face down, towards the ground." >>> >>> And yes, I realize that *both* are gemstones and that some feel strongly that we should steer away from the "airplane" association, but it did make for easy teaching. >>> >>> Jets and Rubies is also more forgiving for callers new to gender-neutral language, since the terms are so linguistically comparable to Gents and Ladies. >>> >>> That all said, I also like Larks and Ravens fine. >>> >>> Happy calling, everyone! >>> >>> Angela >>> >>>> On Jan 18, 2017 11:30 AM, "Aahz via Callers" <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: >>>> Not that Portland, the other Portland. ;-) >>>> >>>> http://bangordailynews.com/2017/01/09/news/portland/contra-dancing-takes-a-… >>>> >>>> I personally would prefer to settle on "larks" and "ravens" because that >>>> seems to have more traction -- but it doesn't matter as long as we get >>>> away from "bands" and "bares". >>>> -- >>>> Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6 http://rule6.info/ >>>> <*> <*> <*> >>>> Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Callers mailing list >>>> Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net >>>> http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Callers mailing list >>> Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net >>> http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Callers mailing list >> Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net >> http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net >>

7 years, 11 months

Re: [Callers] Contras which feature a "Dublin Bay" figure

by QuiAnn2 via Callers

I’ve also written a dance with this down the hall figure in it. I like to call it early in the evening since it’s very connected and has “rest” time for each couple. I haven’t run it through the Shared Weight gauntlet to see if anyone else has written it. Please let me know if it’s already out there. Pivot the Line by Jacqui Grennan, 5/1/2016 Contra/Improper/Easy A1 ----------- Four steps down the hall, turn alone, rejoin hands in lines of 4 Four more steps down the hall, walking backwards Four steps up the hall, turn alone, rejoin hands in lines of 4 Four more steps up the hall, walking backwards. Bend the line A2 ----------- (16) 2’s gypsy RIGHT/swing, face up to same N’s B1 ----------- (16) Same N B&Sw B2 ----------- (8) 1’s DSD across set (8) 1’s P Sw (2’s get ready for DTH, 1’s end the swing facing down between new neighbors). > On Jan 17, 2017, at 3:48 PM, Tavi Merrill via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > > Thanks to Linda, Mac, and Jonathan for their responses. So far for dances featuring "Dublin Bay" variants, i have: > > contra variants of the figure, in best-guess chronological order: > Leaving Home - Al Olson > Jim's Reel - Steve Schnur > Handsome Young Maids - Sue Rosen > Please Don't Call Me Surely - Lynn Ackerson (Lynn says this is very similar to Olson's dance) > Crossing the Streams - Nicholas Rockstroh > > figure exactly as it appears in Dublin Bay: > Doublin' Back - Erna-Lynne Bogue > > The reason for my question around the move's history is that i've written a new dance featuring it, and was curious who first imported it from ECD to contra. So far i've gotten works-on-paper nods from a couple fellow choreographers, and a previous version of this dance was successfully tested. Might as well put it out there, as i'm pretty sure it hasn't been written before. > > Here 'tis: > > Belfast Bay (becket R) > > from improper: circle left three and swing partner to end facing UP the hall: > > A1. in lines of four, reverse "Dublin Bay" variant: > > > take four steps backwards, turn toward partner to face down, take four steps forward; > > repeat, returning up the hall, and bend the line to a ring > > A2. Ring balance, ladies draw gents over to > > N1 neighbor swing > > B1. Long lines forward & back > > N2 neighbor swing > > B2. Ring balance, ladies draw gents over to > > Partner swing > > Here, the "Dublin Bay" figure (as it’s more commonly seen in contra, a modified “down the hall”) has been inverted to make the starting formation a line of four facing up - intended for those times a caller wants all dancers facing the stage. The sequence’s overall design was driven by the intention to facilitate band introductions before a break or goodbyes before a final waltz, with dancers beside their partner. As a last dance before the break, the A1 figure can be walked without “bend to a ring,” and voila! Dancers are in lines of four facing up ready for announcements; the rest is simple enough to run no-walk-through. > > Compact variation! Start instead with dancers facing DOWN the hall and make A1 the original “Dublin Bay” figure: lines of four facing down take four steps backwards (toward the stage), four steps forwards; turn alone to face up, and repeat. Voila! Lines of four facing up. > > Dancers waiting out at the ends should join in the long lines. > > In honor of Chrissy Fowler and the Belfast Flying Shoes dance in Belfast, Maine. > > On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 3:46 PM, Linda Leslie <laleslierjg(a)comcast.net <mailto:laleslierjg@comcast.net>> wrote: > Al Olson used the move in his dance “Leaving Home”. It was published in Give & Take by Larry Jennings in 2004. Larry spent a number of years putting this book together, so the dance was written well before this. I did not find the dance in Zesty Contras, Larry’s fist book, published in 1988; but this might mean that Larry did not have space to include it, rather than it had not been written yet. If I were of a betting nature…..I would bet that the dance was from the 1980’s, maybe 1990’s. > Linda > > On Jan 16, 2017, at 5:20 PM, Tavi Merrill via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net <mailto:callers@lists.sharedweight.net>> wrote: > >> >> Dance genealogy question: The figure first appearing in "Dublin Bay" (aka "We'll Wed and We'll Bed," its title in Playford) morphed in contra into a modified "lines of four down the hall." >> >> I know a version of it from Sue Rosen's dance "Handsome Young Maids," where dancers facing down take four steps forwards, turn alone, and continue down the hall with four backward steps, then repeat the figure to return up the hall. >> >> I'm curious how many other contras this figure, or a version of it, appears in. Does anyone know of other dances? And any astute dance historians out there know what the first contra to use this figure is? >> >> Tavi >> _______________________________________________ >> Callers mailing list >> Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net <mailto:Callers@lists.sharedweight.net> >> http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net <http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net> > > > _______________________________________________ > Callers mailing list > Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net > http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net

7 years, 11 months

Re: [Callers] Another vote for "jets" and "rubies"

by Angela DeCarlis via Callers

Yes, Cara, definitely a history! Thank you for inquiring. Another argument I've heard against Lead/Follow is that if we change the role known up to now only as "Gents" to "Leads," and likewise "Ladies" to "Follows," we could unwittingly be reinforcing the cultural notion that only men can be leaders and that women can only be follows. This is not the most common argument used (see Jeff's comments), but it is the one I most often cite, since I do prefer contra to include the *option *for a lead-follow dynamic. Either way, while most partner dances do have this dynamic absolutely and inherently, contra does not have to include it and since we're already using gendered terms that have for generations described gendered roles that we're trying to move away from, switching to Lead/Follow has proved a less-popular choice. Hope this helps! Angela On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 7:59 PM, Jeff Kaufman via Callers < callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > Hi Cara! > > There is definitely a history! Many dancers don't like lead/follow as > terms because they either don't think contra has a lead/follow dynamic or > they don't want to encourage lead/follow dancing. > > Some dance series, primarily ones with younger dancers, do use those > terms, but there are enough dancers opposed to them that I don't see them > as a potential community-wide replacement the way rubies/jets could be. > > Jeff > > On Jan 18, 2017 7:53 PM, "Cara Sawyer via Callers" < > callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > >> Hello all, >> I am quite new to the list and am only now embarking on learning to call, >> but I have to ask a question I have had for awhile as a dancer that I now >> need to understand as a caller: is there something wrong with Lead and >> Follow? >> >> When I first encountered the creative alternatives in contra, I wasn't >> sure what to think. I came to contra from a swing background and that is >> what is used in workshops (and sort or in general now), since many people >> switch in that dance style as well. >> >> Besides being an obvious description for the dancer role, it had the same >> 1/2 syllables rhythm as Gent/Lady. And it seems to me to have the advantage >> of being intuitively linked to how the dancer is thinking about >> his/her/their role. >> >> Just curious if there is a history, I'm sure I am not the first person to >> think of this. >> >> Thanks! >> Cara >> >> Sent to you using thumbs. >> >> On Jan 18, 2017, at 10:40, Angela DeCarlis via Callers < >> callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: >> >> When I called at PICD (the Portland ME dance), I really enjoyed using >> Jets and Rubies. One silly thing I enjoyed any the terms during the >> beginners' lesson was coaching palm direction based on the terms: "Jets' >> palms face up, towards the sky; Rubies' palms face down, towards the >> ground." >> >> And yes, I realize that *both* are gemstones and that some feel strongly >> that we should steer away from the "airplane" association, but it did make >> for easy teaching. >> >> Jets and Rubies is also more forgiving for callers new to gender-neutral >> language, since the terms are so linguistically comparable to Gents and >> Ladies. >> >> That all said, I also like Larks and Ravens fine. >> >> Happy calling, everyone! >> >> Angela >> >> On Jan 18, 2017 11:30 AM, "Aahz via Callers" < >> callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: >> >>> Not that Portland, the other Portland. ;-) >>> >>> http://bangordailynews.com/2017/01/09/news/portland/contra-d >>> ancing-takes-a-gender-neutral-spin-in-portland/ >>> >>> I personally would prefer to settle on "larks" and "ravens" because that >>> seems to have more traction -- but it doesn't matter as long as we get >>> away from "bands" and "bares". >>> -- >>> Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6 >>> http://rule6.info/ >>> <*> <*> <*> >>> Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Callers mailing list >>> Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net >>> http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Callers mailing list >> Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net >> http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Callers mailing list >> Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net >> http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Callers mailing list > Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net > http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net > >

7 years, 11 months

Re: [Callers] Another vote for "jets" and "rubies"

by Cara Sawyer via Callers

Hello all, I am quite new to the list and am only now embarking on learning to call, but I have to ask a question I have had for awhile as a dancer that I now need to understand as a caller: is there something wrong with Lead and Follow? When I first encountered the creative alternatives in contra, I wasn't sure what to think. I came to contra from a swing background and that is what is used in workshops (and sort or in general now), since many people switch in that dance style as well. Besides being an obvious description for the dancer role, it had the same 1/2 syllables rhythm as Gent/Lady. And it seems to me to have the advantage of being intuitively linked to how the dancer is thinking about his/her/their role. Just curious if there is a history, I'm sure I am not the first person to think of this. Thanks! Cara Sent to you using thumbs. > On Jan 18, 2017, at 10:40, Angela DeCarlis via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > > When I called at PICD (the Portland ME dance), I really enjoyed using Jets and Rubies. One silly thing I enjoyed any the terms during the beginners' lesson was coaching palm direction based on the terms: "Jets' palms face up, towards the sky; Rubies' palms face down, towards the ground." > > And yes, I realize that *both* are gemstones and that some feel strongly that we should steer away from the "airplane" association, but it did make for easy teaching. > > Jets and Rubies is also more forgiving for callers new to gender-neutral language, since the terms are so linguistically comparable to Gents and Ladies. > > That all said, I also like Larks and Ravens fine. > > Happy calling, everyone! > > Angela > >> On Jan 18, 2017 11:30 AM, "Aahz via Callers" <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: >> Not that Portland, the other Portland. ;-) >> >> http://bangordailynews.com/2017/01/09/news/portland/contra-dancing-takes-a-… >> >> I personally would prefer to settle on "larks" and "ravens" because that >> seems to have more traction -- but it doesn't matter as long as we get >> away from "bands" and "bares". >> -- >> Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6 http://rule6.info/ >> <*> <*> <*> >> Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html >> _______________________________________________ >> Callers mailing list >> Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net >> http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net > _______________________________________________ > Callers mailing list > Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net > http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net

7 years, 11 months

Re: [Callers] Another vote for "jets" and "rubies"

by Read Weaver via Callers

East coast GF English, to the extent it does anything specific, does left up/right down. West coast does right up/left down. http://lcfd.org/gf-ecd-calling-conventions.html <http://lcfd.org/gf-ecd-calling-conventions.html> (I think it’s a really good idea, btw, to avoid the jet = penis analogy. If someone wants to buy me one of these, https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/3b/75/c1/3b75c16ce2c7c75f0d2e2dbf… <https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/3b/75/c1/3b75c16ce2c7c75f0d2e2dbf…> , I’ll promise to wear it at dances that use jets/rubies.) Read Weaver Jamaica Plain, MA http://lcfd.org > On Jan 18, 2017, at 11:49 AM, Bob Morgan via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > > Angela reminded me of a point I've been thinking about for a while. Why not right palm up, left palm down? This would be symmetrical and role neutral. > > Bob > > On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 4:40 PM, Angela DeCarlis via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net <mailto:callers@lists.sharedweight.net>> wrote: > When I called at PICD (the Portland ME dance), I really enjoyed using Jets and Rubies. One silly thing I enjoyed any the terms during the beginners' lesson was coaching palm direction based on the terms: "Jets' palms face up, towards the sky; Rubies' palms face down, towards the ground." > > And yes, I realize that *both* are gemstones and that some feel strongly that we should steer away from the "airplane" association, but it did make for easy teaching. > > Jets and Rubies is also more forgiving for callers new to gender-neutral language, since the terms are so linguistically comparable to Gents and Ladies. > > That all said, I also like Larks and Ravens fine. > > Happy calling, everyone! > > Angela

7 years, 11 months

Re: [Callers] Another vote for "jets" and "rubies"

by Angela DeCarlis via Callers

Agreed with Jeff totally, on both points. I teach role swap workshops periodically, and palm direction is the single best indicator of role there is. Ties, bands, pins, etc aren't nearly as versatile or useful, especially when you intend to switch roles mid-dance. Because of that, I'm pretty religious about teaching palm direction early and often. (Good question, though!) On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 11:50 AM, Jeff Kaufman <jeff.t.kaufman(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I really like the current up/down system for (a) remembering which role > I'm dancing (b) signaling which role to others > > On Jan 18, 2017 11:49 AM, "Bob Morgan via Callers" < > callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > >> Angela reminded me of a point I've been thinking about for a while. Why >> not right palm up, left palm down? This would be symmetrical and role >> neutral. >> >> Bob >> >> On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 4:40 PM, Angela DeCarlis via Callers < >> callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: >> >>> When I called at PICD (the Portland ME dance), I really enjoyed using >>> Jets and Rubies. One silly thing I enjoyed any the terms during the >>> beginners' lesson was coaching palm direction based on the terms: "Jets' >>> palms face up, towards the sky; Rubies' palms face down, towards the >>> ground." >>> >>> And yes, I realize that *both* are gemstones and that some feel strongly >>> that we should steer away from the "airplane" association, but it did make >>> for easy teaching. >>> >>> Jets and Rubies is also more forgiving for callers new to gender-neutral >>> language, since the terms are so linguistically comparable to Gents and >>> Ladies. >>> >>> That all said, I also like Larks and Ravens fine. >>> >>> Happy calling, everyone! >>> >>> Angela >>> >>> On Jan 18, 2017 11:30 AM, "Aahz via Callers" < >>> callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: >>> >>>> Not that Portland, the other Portland. ;-) >>>> >>>> http://bangordailynews.com/2017/01/09/news/portland/contra-d >>>> ancing-takes-a-gender-neutral-spin-in-portland/ >>>> >>>> I personally would prefer to settle on "larks" and "ravens" because that >>>> seems to have more traction -- but it doesn't matter as long as we get >>>> away from "bands" and "bares". >>>> -- >>>> Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6 >>>> http://rule6.info/ >>>> <*> <*> <*> >>>> Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Callers mailing list >>>> Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net >>>> http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Callers mailing list >>> Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net >>> http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Callers mailing list >> Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net >> http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net >> >>

7 years, 11 months

Re: [Callers] Another vote for "jets" and "rubies"

by Jeff Kaufman via Callers

I really like the current up/down system for (a) remembering which role I'm dancing (b) signaling which role to others On Jan 18, 2017 11:49 AM, "Bob Morgan via Callers" < callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > Angela reminded me of a point I've been thinking about for a while. Why > not right palm up, left palm down? This would be symmetrical and role > neutral. > > Bob > > On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 4:40 PM, Angela DeCarlis via Callers < > callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > >> When I called at PICD (the Portland ME dance), I really enjoyed using >> Jets and Rubies. One silly thing I enjoyed any the terms during the >> beginners' lesson was coaching palm direction based on the terms: "Jets' >> palms face up, towards the sky; Rubies' palms face down, towards the >> ground." >> >> And yes, I realize that *both* are gemstones and that some feel strongly >> that we should steer away from the "airplane" association, but it did make >> for easy teaching. >> >> Jets and Rubies is also more forgiving for callers new to gender-neutral >> language, since the terms are so linguistically comparable to Gents and >> Ladies. >> >> That all said, I also like Larks and Ravens fine. >> >> Happy calling, everyone! >> >> Angela >> >> On Jan 18, 2017 11:30 AM, "Aahz via Callers" < >> callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: >> >>> Not that Portland, the other Portland. ;-) >>> >>> http://bangordailynews.com/2017/01/09/news/portland/contra-d >>> ancing-takes-a-gender-neutral-spin-in-portland/ >>> >>> I personally would prefer to settle on "larks" and "ravens" because that >>> seems to have more traction -- but it doesn't matter as long as we get >>> away from "bands" and "bares". >>> -- >>> Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6 >>> http://rule6.info/ >>> <*> <*> <*> >>> Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Callers mailing list >>> Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net >>> http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Callers mailing list >> Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net >> http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Callers mailing list > Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net > http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net > >

7 years, 11 months

Re: [Callers] Contras which feature a "Dublin Bay" figure

by April Blum via Callers

I recall dancing one called Doublin Back. And I have written one called Doublin Dublin. April Blum On Jan 16, 2017 5:20 PM, Tavi Merrill via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > > > Dance genealogy question: The figure first appearing in "Dublin Bay" (aka "We'll Wed and We'll Bed," its title in Playford) morphed in contra into a modified "lines of four down the hall." > > I know a version of it from Sue Rosen's dance "Handsome Young Maids," where dancers facing down take four steps forwards, turn alone, and continue down the hall with four backward steps, then repeat the figure to return up the hall. > > I'm curious how many other contras this figure, or a version of it, appears in. Does anyone know of other dances? And any astute dance historians out there know what the first contra to use this figure is? > > Tavi

7 years, 11 months

Re: [Callers] Another vote for "jets" and "rubies"

by Bob Morgan via Callers

Angela reminded me of a point I've been thinking about for a while. Why not right palm up, left palm down? This would be symmetrical and role neutral. Bob On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 4:40 PM, Angela DeCarlis via Callers < callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > When I called at PICD (the Portland ME dance), I really enjoyed using Jets > and Rubies. One silly thing I enjoyed any the terms during the beginners' > lesson was coaching palm direction based on the terms: "Jets' palms face > up, towards the sky; Rubies' palms face down, towards the ground." > > And yes, I realize that *both* are gemstones and that some feel strongly > that we should steer away from the "airplane" association, but it did make > for easy teaching. > > Jets and Rubies is also more forgiving for callers new to gender-neutral > language, since the terms are so linguistically comparable to Gents and > Ladies. > > That all said, I also like Larks and Ravens fine. > > Happy calling, everyone! > > Angela > > On Jan 18, 2017 11:30 AM, "Aahz via Callers" <callers(a)lists.sharedweight. > net> wrote: > >> Not that Portland, the other Portland. ;-) >> >> http://bangordailynews.com/2017/01/09/news/portland/contra- >> dancing-takes-a-gender-neutral-spin-in-portland/ >> >> I personally would prefer to settle on "larks" and "ravens" because that >> seems to have more traction -- but it doesn't matter as long as we get >> away from "bands" and "bares". >> -- >> Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6 >> http://rule6.info/ >> <*> <*> <*> >> Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html >> _______________________________________________ >> Callers mailing list >> Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net >> http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net >> > > _______________________________________________ > Callers mailing list > Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net > http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net > >

7 years, 11 months

[Callers] Another vote for "jets" and "rubies"

by Aahz via Callers

Not that Portland, the other Portland. ;-) http://bangordailynews.com/2017/01/09/news/portland/contra-dancing-takes-a-… I personally would prefer to settle on "larks" and "ravens" because that seems to have more traction -- but it doesn't matter as long as we get away from "bands" and "bares". -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6 http://rule6.info/ <*> <*> <*> Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html

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