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Re: [Callers] In search of un-premiered contras!

by David Harding via Callers

Here's something I envisioned last fall and have been meaning to post for comment. There were conversations here about gents chains and about balancing the activity levels of ladies and gents. At Squirrel Moon Weekend, Tom Hinds called a dance whose details I don't remember, except that it started with a gents chain across from Becket formation, followed by gents chain on the right diagonal (I think). About 2/3 of the way through the dance, he switched to start with a ladies chain across and then on the left diagonal. It was dramatic how different the two versions of the dance felt. That got me to thinking, why not switch each time through to symmetrize the dance, the way modern dances with contra corners often do? Perhaps that's sufficiently disorienting to be cutting edge. I have not had the occasion to call this, but would be happy to hear if anyone thinks it's worth giving a try. I haven't thought through the teaching, but imagine that for a group that could handle it, two walk-throughs would be useful. The working title is "Both Sides" Becket A1 Gents allemande 1 1/2; Neighbor swing A2 Long lines forward and back; Gents chain, courtesy turn B1 Gents left shoulder full hey B2 Partner balance and swing Alternate with A1 Ladies allemande right 1 1/2; Neighbor swing A2 Long lines; Ladies chain, courtesy trun B1 Ladies right shoulder full hey B2 Partner balance and swing Dave Harding On 3/26/2017 8:26 PM, Maia McCormick via Callers wrote: > Hi choreographer folks, > > I'm leading a session at NEFFA called "Cutting-Edge Contras", > consisting of un-premiered (or very sparsely called) contras. If > anyone has any dances they'd like to throw my way for consideration, > please do so! > > Cheers, > Maia > > > _______________________________________________ > Callers mailing list > Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net > http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net

7 years, 9 months

[Callers] In search of un-premiered contras!

by Maia McCormick via Callers

Hi choreographer folks, I'm leading a session at NEFFA called "Cutting-Edge Contras", consisting of un-premiered (or very sparsely called) contras. If anyone has any dances they'd like to throw my way for consideration, please do so! Cheers, Maia

7 years, 9 months

Re: [Callers] ???? Looking for Author of Dance -dancers adjust

by K Panton via Callers

To my knowledge, it depends on the dance; i.e. how many beats has the choreographer allowed for. Some dances are timed to 2 beats zig, 2 beats zag. Some are timed for 4 beat zig and 4 beat zag. I believe that "Cows are Watching" (just looked online) and Weave the Line, as examples, are the latter. I can't recall the name of a dance with the similar zig/zag into a gents alle L as "Cows" that, I think, has 2 beats/zig timing. Ken > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2017 13:43:36 -0500 > From: Jerome Grisanti via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> > To: Tom Hinds <twhinds(a)earthlink.net> > Cc: "callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net" <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> > Subject: Re: [Callers] ???? Looking for Author of Dance -dancers > adjust > Message-ID: > <CAD6SnUQMse394aS9QSQ4XnxWyoGW79J1epej29RAS4c=NZQ9bA@mail. > gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I tend to think of the zig as four beats and the zag as four more. Four > total would be zesty or rushed, depending on the crowd and music. > > Jerome > > > > On Friday, March 24, 2017, Tom Hinds via Callers < > callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > > > I believe that zig left, zag right normally takes 4 beats. If the > dancers > > zag a little farther so men can easily take a left hand that would take > an > > additional 2 beats for a total of 6 counts. I'll confirm the timing this > > Saturday. > > > > For me there's this issue of how much we ask the dancers to adjust. It > > seems that asking dancers to adjust is common in English and perhaps less > > common in contra. > > > > > > Tom > > _______________________________________________ > > Callers mailing list > > Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net > > http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net > > > > >

7 years, 9 months

Re: [Callers] ???? Looking for Author of Dance -dancers adjust

by James Saxe via Callers

The dance "Cows Are Watching" can be seen in this video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kz8C4THCx2I You can all watch for yourselves and judge how long dancers are taking for the various parts and how leisurely or rushed the action appears to be. It seems to me that men are usually starting their allemandes sometime between beats 13 and 15 of B1, and more often a shade before beat 14 than a shade after. According to the YouTube timer, the time for 12x64 beats of music (from a beat near the start of the videao to a beat at the same point in the tune near the end) is about 6:20, giving an average tempo a little over 121 b.p.m. The hall is not crowded, so dancers have ample space for the roll-away in beats 5-8 of B1. In some cases, but not all, dancers appear already to have started to veer ("zig") left by beat 8. The general skill level of the dancing is pretty high, with only occasional mind lapses and not a lot of fumbling around or confusion about what to do next. Perhaps the typical timing of the zig zag would be different with a different tempo of music, a more crowded floor, or a different mix of dancer skills, or with a caller who made a big point about asking dancers to take a full four beats to zig left. I haven't found any other videos of "Cows Are Watching", but here's a video of "Weave the Line": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8peDGz-zkc It seems to me that dancers are completing the sequence Veer (zig) left past current neighbors Veer (zag) right to face next neighbors and keep veering right to pass them Veer left to face third neighbors pretty much within the first 8 beats of A2, though they may sometimes be stealing a beat from the figure before (circle left) and/or from the figure after (do-si-do third neighbor). --Jim On Mar 25, 2017, at 11:43 AM, Jerome Grisanti via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > I tend to think of the zig as four beats and the zag as four more. Four total would be zesty or rushed, depending on the crowd and music. > > Jerome > > > > On Friday, March 24, 2017, Tom Hinds via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > I believe that zig left, zag right normally takes 4 beats. If the dancers zag a little farther so men can easily take a left hand that would take an additional 2 beats for a total of 6 counts. I'll confirm the timing this Saturday. > > For me there's this issue of how much we ask the dancers to adjust. It seems that asking dancers to adjust is common in English and perhaps less common in contra. > > > Tom <snip>

7 years, 9 months

[Callers] Looking for Author of Dance - The Cows Go Marching

by Cheryl Joyal via Callers

I have a wonderful dance in my box that I enjoy dancing and calling - but do not know who wrote it…. can anyone tell me who wrote it? Also - is this the correct name since another caller said they had a dance called “the Cows are Watching” ? Anyone have any other “Cow” dances since we are on a theme ? The Cows go Marching by _________________ A1 (8) Long lines, forward and back (8) Women allemande Right 1-1/2 A2 (16) Neighbor balance and swing B1 (8) Balance the ring (8) Gents Roll/Sashay Partner across set B2 (4) Zig to Left (w/Partner), (4) Zag to Right and Gents catch by Left (8) Men allemande Left 1x to Partner Swing Thanks - Cheryl Cheryl Joyal clmjoyal(a)gmail.com <mailto:clmjoyal@gmail.com> clmjoyal(a)aol.com <mailto:clmjoyal@aol.com> 630-667-3284 (cell) Cheryl Joyal clmjoyal(a)gmail.com clmjoyal(a)aol.com 630-667-3284 (cell)

7 years, 9 months

Re: [Callers] Tax Day Dances

by Mary Collins via Callers

Omg I forgot about a couple of these! Thanks all I think I have my program!😀 Mary On Mar 23, 2017 10:18 PM, "Andy Shore via Callers" < callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > John Coffman has a bunch of dances with suggestive titles - > https://sites.google.com/site/capecontradance/home/contra- > dances-by-john-coffman > > Stimulus Package > Working Stiff > An Arm and a Leg > Balance the Books > Communist Plot > Mad Money > Pay Dirt > Rolling in the Dough > > > On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 4:11 AM, Mary Collins via Callers < > callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > >> I am calling on April 15th....would love some ideas for "tax" related >> dances. Any out there? >> >> Thanks. >> Mary Collins >> >> “Life is not about waiting for the storms to pass ... it's about learning >> to dance in the rain!” ~ Unknown >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Callers mailing list >> Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net >> http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net >> >> > > > -- > /Andy Shore > http://andyshore.com/ > > best email - andyshore(a)gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Callers mailing list > Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net > http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net > >

7 years, 9 months

Re: [Callers] New Dance

by Don Veino via Callers

Harking back to a prior thread - there's different dizziness quotients for different moves. I ran an experiment with dancers where we did 64 beats+ of Mad Robin CW - no reported dizziness. In my experience, the tighter the radius, the higher the perceived dizziness. Think of it as RPB (rotations per beat). Facing direction also impacts perception (can you look at a fixed (relative) point?). So on a scale, a swing could be a 1.0, a Walkaround/G*p*y Right say a 0.8, Allemande Right = 0.6?, Left shoulder center start Hey = 0.2?. Circles more dizzy than Stars?, etc. Bottom line, in my experience, a simple CW beat count is a useful first level check but doesn't necessarily represent the dance's true perceived "dizzy dancer" impact. -Don BTW Michael (from the parallel Trad Dance Callers thread): I have Fun Dance for Marjorie as being by Bob Golder, collected from the author himself. :) Ref: https://www.library.unh.edu/special/forms/rpdlw/syllabus2009.pdf#page=25 On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 12:39 AM, Ron Blechner via Callers < callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > Unfortunately, I count a whole lot of clockwise rotation. > In beats: > A1: 12 all, assuming people spin on the Petronella > A2: 4 for Gents > B1. 16 > B2. 16, with ladies getting an extra rotation. > > So, that's 44 beats of clockwise rotation (the "noticeably dizzy mark" for > me is 40) and gents get 48 beats. > > Sorry. :( > > Ron Blechner > > _______________________________________________ > Callers mailing list > Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net > http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net > >

7 years, 9 months

[Callers] Anybody want a gig Saturday?

by Amy Cann via Callers

Putney VT is short a caller. Very sweet local dance, 7:30-10:30, all-contras is ok but a mix of contras/circles/longways is way OK too. Email me directly and I'll give you the gory details. Amy Cann 802-222-7598

7 years, 9 months

Re: [Callers] Tax Day Dances

by Andy Shore via Callers

John Coffman has a bunch of dances with suggestive titles - https://sites.google.com/site/capecontradance/home/contra-dances-by-john-co… Stimulus Package Working Stiff An Arm and a Leg Balance the Books Communist Plot Mad Money Pay Dirt Rolling in the Dough On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 4:11 AM, Mary Collins via Callers < callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > I am calling on April 15th....would love some ideas for "tax" related > dances. Any out there? > > Thanks. > Mary Collins > > “Life is not about waiting for the storms to pass ... it's about learning > to dance in the rain!” ~ Unknown > > _______________________________________________ > Callers mailing list > Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net > http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net > > -- /Andy Shore http://andyshore.com/ best email - andyshore(a)gmail.com

7 years, 9 months

Re: [Callers] Tax Day Dances

by April Blum via Callers

The wonderful Take All of the Credit and None of the Blame April Blum On Mar 23, 2017 7:11 AM, Mary Collins via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > > I am calling on April 15th....would love some ideas for "tax" related dances. Any out there? > > Thanks. > Mary Collins > > “Life is not about waiting for the storms to pass ... it's about learning to dance in the rain!” ~ Unknown

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