[Callers] Callers Digest, Vol 61, Issue 13

Fri May 31 07:00:27 PDT 2019

Thank you! That sure does look like the same dance except B2 (or in the
original, C1!)

On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 6:36 PM <callers-request at lists.sharedweight.net>
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>    1. Coconut Cream Puff vs Pie + choreographer? (Liz Burkhart)
>    2. Re: Coconut Cream Puff vs Pie + choreographer? (Winston, Alan P.)
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> Date: Wed, 29 May 2019 20:36:43 -0400
> From: Liz Burkhart <burkhart.liz at gmail.com>
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> Subject: [Callers] Coconut Cream Puff vs Pie + choreographer?
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> I have found two identical dances. First I collected Coconut Cream Puff by
> Nils Fredland, then I lost the card, and in the process of looking for it
> online, discovered Coconut Cream Pie by Lynn Ackerson. It is the same
> dance:
>
> 4 Facing 4
> A1 Lines of 4 go forward and back
>      middles star R once
> A2 Partner allemande L 1 1/2
>      new middles star R once
> B1 Partner balance & swing
> B2 All 8 circle L 1/2 (4 places)
>      Balance ring, partner California twirl
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>
> So who really wrote it? Does anyone know why there are two names and two
> choreographers attributed?
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> Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 00:41:03 +0000
> From: "Winston, Alan P." <winston at slac.stanford.edu>
> To: "callers at lists.sharedweight.net" <callers at lists.sharedweight.net>
> Subject: Re: [Callers] Coconut Cream Puff vs Pie + choreographer?
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> My understanding is that Lynn adapted Ron Beeson's dance, Apple Pie
> Quadrille, by changing B2 into a can't-fail circle progression from a
> "Devil's Backbone" progression.
>
> I'm going to guess that Nils called it at a dance and somebody
> misattributed the dance to him and got the name wrong.
>
> Here's the notation Ridge Kennedy posted for Apple Pie Quadrille on the
> trad-dance-callers list:
>
>
> APPLE PIE QUADRILLE
> Ron Beeson (via Ridge Kennedy)
> Four Facing Four
>
> Called by Kathy Anderson at Buffalo gap 2002
> Ask for lively music that's a bit silly to suit the dance.
>
> A-1  Lines of Four, Forward and Back
>     (Reminder - this is original direction!) (8)
>
>     Center Four (dancers in the middle of each line of four):
>     Star Right Once Around      (8)
>
> A-2 Partners Allemande Left Once and a Half              (8)
>
>     Ends (Original ends of each line of four, now Center Four)
>     Star Right Once Around (8)
>
> B-1 Partners balance and swing (16)
>
> B-2 "End Man" (Man on left end of line):Lead back over left shoulder to
>      invert line.  Lead around the *other* end of the other line and all
>      face original direction and a new line of four. (16)
>
>
> Notes: Tricky Part: Leading the line back and around is counter-intuitive.
> End man starts turning in opposite direction that his line is progressing.
>
>
> Original dance:
>
> A-1     Lines forward and back (8)      All do sa do opposite dancer    (8)
> A-2     Centre four star right (8)      All allemande left with partner x
> 3/2   (8)
> B-1     New centre four star right (8)  All swing partners      (8)
> B-2     Circle left all eight once round                (16)
> C-1     The left hand man casts left taking his line around the other line
> to face the next line           (16)
>
>
>
> -- Alan
>
>
> On 5/29/2019 5:36 PM, Liz Burkhart via Callers wrote:
> I have found two identical dances. First I collected Coconut Cream Puff by
> Nils Fredland, then I lost the card, and in the process of looking for it
> online, discovered Coconut Cream Pie by Lynn Ackerson. It is the same dance:
>
> 4 Facing 4
> A1 Lines of 4 go forward and back
>      middles star R once
> A2 Partner allemande L 1 1/2
>      new middles star R once
> B1 Partner balance & swing
> B2 All 8 circle L 1/2 (4 places)
>      Balance ring, partner California twirl
>
>
> So who really wrote it? Does anyone know why there are two names and two
> choreographers attributed?
>
>
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