<div dir="ltr">Thank you! That sure does look like the same dance except B2 (or in the original, C1!)</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 6:36 PM <<a href="mailto:callers-request@lists.sharedweight.net">callers-request@lists.sharedweight.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Send Callers mailing list submissions to<br>
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1. Coconut Cream Puff vs Pie + choreographer? (Liz Burkhart)<br>
2. Re: Coconut Cream Puff vs Pie + choreographer? (Winston, Alan P.)<br>
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Date: Wed, 29 May 2019 20:36:43 -0400<br>
From: Liz Burkhart <<a href="mailto:burkhart.liz@gmail.com" target="_blank">burkhart.liz@gmail.com</a>><br>
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Subject: [Callers] Coconut Cream Puff vs Pie + choreographer?<br>
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I have found two identical dances. First I collected Coconut Cream Puff by<br>
Nils Fredland, then I lost the card, and in the process of looking for it<br>
online, discovered Coconut Cream Pie by Lynn Ackerson. It is the same dance:<br>
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4 Facing 4<br>
A1 Lines of 4 go forward and back<br>
middles star R once<br>
A2 Partner allemande L 1 1/2<br>
new middles star R once<br>
B1 Partner balance & swing<br>
B2 All 8 circle L 1/2 (4 places)<br>
Balance ring, partner California twirl<br>
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So who really wrote it? Does anyone know why there are two names and two<br>
choreographers attributed?<br>
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Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 00:41:03 +0000<br>
From: "Winston, Alan P." <<a href="mailto:winston@slac.stanford.edu" target="_blank">winston@slac.stanford.edu</a>><br>
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Subject: Re: [Callers] Coconut Cream Puff vs Pie + choreographer?<br>
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My understanding is that Lynn adapted Ron Beeson's dance, Apple Pie Quadrille, by changing B2 into a can't-fail circle progression from a "Devil's Backbone" progression.<br>
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I'm going to guess that Nils called it at a dance and somebody misattributed the dance to him and got the name wrong.<br>
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Here's the notation Ridge Kennedy posted for Apple Pie Quadrille on the trad-dance-callers list:<br>
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APPLE PIE QUADRILLE<br>
Ron Beeson (via Ridge Kennedy)<br>
Four Facing Four<br>
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Called by Kathy Anderson at Buffalo gap 2002<br>
Ask for lively music that's a bit silly to suit the dance.<br>
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A-1 Lines of Four, Forward and Back<br>
(Reminder - this is original direction!) (8)<br>
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Center Four (dancers in the middle of each line of four):<br>
Star Right Once Around (8)<br>
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A-2 Partners Allemande Left Once and a Half (8)<br>
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Ends (Original ends of each line of four, now Center Four)<br>
Star Right Once Around (8)<br>
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B-1 Partners balance and swing (16)<br>
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B-2 "End Man" (Man on left end of line):Lead back over left shoulder to<br>
invert line. Lead around the *other* end of the other line and all<br>
face original direction and a new line of four. (16)<br>
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Notes: Tricky Part: Leading the line back and around is counter-intuitive.<br>
End man starts turning in opposite direction that his line is progressing.<br>
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Original dance:<br>
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A-1 Lines forward and back (8) All do sa do opposite dancer (8)<br>
A-2 Centre four star right (8) All allemande left with partner x 3/2 (8)<br>
B-1 New centre four star right (8) All swing partners (8)<br>
B-2 Circle left all eight once round (16)<br>
C-1 The left hand man casts left taking his line around the other line<br>
to face the next line (16)<br>
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-- Alan<br>
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On 5/29/2019 5:36 PM, Liz Burkhart via Callers wrote:<br>
I have found two identical dances. First I collected Coconut Cream Puff by Nils Fredland, then I lost the card, and in the process of looking for it online, discovered Coconut Cream Pie by Lynn Ackerson. It is the same dance:<br>
<br>
4 Facing 4<br>
A1 Lines of 4 go forward and back<br>
middles star R once<br>
A2 Partner allemande L 1 1/2<br>
new middles star R once<br>
B1 Partner balance & swing<br>
B2 All 8 circle L 1/2 (4 places)<br>
Balance ring, partner California twirl<br>
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So who really wrote it? Does anyone know why there are two names and two choreographers attributed?<br>
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