[Callers] here it is - sorry
Winston, Alan P. via Callers
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Mon Apr 4 15:18:25 PDT 2016
Whoops, didn't see the "please move on" request. Please disregard.
-- Alan
On 4/4/2016 3:13 PM, Winston, Alan P. via Callers wrote:
>
>
> On 4/4/2016 9:10 AM, Darwin Gregory via Callers wrote:
>>
>> While I am relatively new to contra, and just called my first dance
>> this weekend, The Baby Rose... I'll have never considered gypsy a
>> term related to a race of people, nor did I know it was applied today
>> to a group of people called Romas.
>>
>> However, my general position on terms that have both discriminatory
>> and non-discriminatory meanings is that the meaning needs to be
>> derived by context.
>>
>> Before reading the discussions here, I had only considered the
>> meaning of gypsy as related to wandering dancers... Not a particular
>> ethnic group. Perhaps my view has been naive.
>>
>
> Ok, cool.
>>
>> While I am sensitive to cultural issues, until someone comes up with
>> a term that captures not only the physics of the move, but also the
>> flirtatious nature of it, I will probably grimace any time someone
>> uses a different term. Orbit, no handed swing, whatever... Until
>> something emphasizes the flirtatious eye contact it will fall short
>> in my mind. It is more than a figure, it is a figure with an
>> attitude. :)
>>
>
> Wait. Why does the word "gypsy" imply flirtatious eye contact?
>
> (I'm not trying to police what words you use or what you do when
> calling, but I don't understand your logic here, which seems to be:
>
> "gypsy in dance context harmlessly refers to dance gypsies, not
> ethnic Gypsies"
> "'gypsy' is the only satisfying term for the figure I've heard
> because it implies flirtatious eye contact".
>
> I'm kinda suspecting that the implication of flirtatious eye contact
> is because of ideas of ethnic gypsies, gypsy dance, etc, but maybe you
> have another reason and I'd like to hear it.
>
>
> -- Alan
>
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