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Whoops, didn't see the "please move on" request. Please disregard.<br>
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-- Alan<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/4/2016 3:13 PM, Winston, Alan P.
via Callers wrote:<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/4/2016 9:10 AM, Darwin Gregory
via Callers wrote:<br>
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<p dir="ltr">While I am relatively new to contra, and just
called my first dance this weekend, The Baby Rose... I'll have
never considered gypsy a term related to a race of people, nor
did I know it was applied today to a group of people called
Romas. </p>
<p dir="ltr">However, my general position on terms that have
both discriminatory and non-discriminatory meanings is that
the meaning needs to be derived by context. </p>
<p dir="ltr">Before reading the discussions here, I had only
considered the meaning of gypsy as related to wandering
dancers... Not a particular ethnic group. Perhaps my view has
been naive.</p>
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Ok, cool.<br>
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<p dir="ltr">While I am sensitive to cultural issues, until
someone comes up with a term that captures not only the
physics of the move, but also the flirtatious nature of it, I
will probably grimace any time someone uses a different term.
Orbit, no handed swing, whatever... Until something emphasizes
the flirtatious eye contact it will fall short in my mind. It
is more than a figure, it is a figure with an attitude. :)</p>
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Wait. Why does the word "gypsy" imply flirtatious eye contact? <br>
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(I'm not trying to police what words you use or what you do when
calling, but I don't understand your logic here, which seems to
be:<br>
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"gypsy in dance context harmlessly refers to dance gypsies, not
ethnic Gypsies"<br>
"'gypsy' is the only satisfying term for the figure I've heard
because it implies flirtatious eye contact".<br>
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I'm kinda suspecting that the implication of flirtatious eye
contact is because of ideas of ethnic gypsies, gypsy dance, etc,
but maybe you have another reason and I'd like to hear it. <br>
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