[Callers] Transgressive contras

[Winston, Alan P. via Callers]

Luke --

For option 2 (thematically linked dances in alternation) I wonder if you 
could just way it was a medley; not only keep calling but rather than 
pingponging just between pairs you could use multiple pairs.

--Alan


On 5/1/2015 11:37 AM, Luke Donforth via Callers wrote:
> I should note, I've never actually tried calling "Luke's Options are 
> Limited" it was mostly a theoretical exercise for me. To my knowledge 
> it's never been danced.
>
> If you have only two sets, it's not clear to me how a transgressive 
> contras are functionally different than 4 face 4 dances or their 
> cousin, Tempest Formation. (In my box, I'd put "Kim's Game" under 
> Tempest Formation.)
> The Tempest: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qNp-n4CbdI
> It becomes a question of if everyone is changing lines, or just half 
> the couples are, but you're bouncing back and forth.
>
> If that's all you want, great. There's lots of room to write more 4 
> face 4 and tempest formation dances, and you can incorporate pass 
> through lines there.
>
> If you have more than two sets involved, I haven't found a way to keep 
> things from being either complicated or boring for some dancers.
>
> Option 1: all 1s and 2s progress the same way every time
> If you have a progression that's down one couple, and over one set to 
> the left for the 1s, and up one couple over one set to the right for 
> the 2s, you no longer change numbers when you reach the bottom of the 
> hall, you also change numbers when you reach the sides. So even with 5 
> sets across and 20 hands four deep, nobody is going to go more than 5 
> hands-four from their original position. If you've got a square (10 
> sets across, 10 hands four deep, etc) some folks on the main diagonal 
> see 10 different couples, but other folks will bounce back and fourth 
> on short diagonals of just a few couples.
>
> Option 2: have options that vary the progression
> This is what "Luke's Options are Limited" attempts to do 
> (http://www.madrobincallers.org/2013/01/25/attempting-a-grid-contra-choreography/ 
> ). If gives you different dances (thematically linked) to travel to 
> different points on the floor. You could find other pairs of 
> improper/becket dances using wide lines and long lines, and even 
> incorporate passing through lines. But you're stuck with having to 
> have different dances to call and be calling all the way through the 
> dance. I personally try and get out of the way of the band and dancers 
> interacting, and dislike calling through the entire dance.
>
> Option 3: expand 4 face 4 to 6 face 6, 8 face 8, etc.
> I played around with this a bit, and I think others have as well 
> (Roger Auman?). There are dances up at
> http://www.madrobincallers.org/2014/02/26/6-facing-6-contra-dances/
> I haven't done anything with them after writing them, but if they 
> inspire you; feel free to use them. The hard part (in my opinion) is 
> giving everyone something interesting to do. If your line of 6 has a 
> pass through along the set, you've got to keep your trail buddy groups 
> together and permuting, or some folks get a bum ride.
>
> Option 4: I haven't found one, but let me know if you do!
>
> Have fun.
>
> On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 11:36 AM, Michael Dyck via Callers 
> <callers at lists.sharedweight.net 
> <mailto:callers at lists.sharedweight.net>> wrote:
>
>     On 15-05-01 01:02 AM, Lindsey Dono wrote:
>
>
>         Is "grid contra" the more standard terminology than
>         "transgressive?"
>
>
>     I hadn't heard the term "transgressive contra" before, and I'm not
>     finding hits for the term in search engines.
>
>     Here's what I've got:
>
>     1990-1995
>     Chris Kermiet: "Beckett's Crossing"
>     (in his "Zany Contras and Other Stuff!")
>     http://k-1.us/contras/beckettscrossing.html
>     (refers to it as "a progressive contra dance")
>
>     May 2010
>     Peter Foster: "Crisscross"
>     http://pfoster.pcug.org.au/dance/contra.htm#cri
>     (Doesn't really have a term for the dance form.)
>
>     Jan 2012?
>     Seth Tepfer: "Transgression"
>     http://lists.sharedweight.net/pipermail/callers-sharedweight.net/2012-January/004159.html
>     (refers to it as a "grid contra", but also refers to progression
>     across as "transgression", hence the dance's title)
>     See also other posts in that thread.
>
>     Jan 2013
>     Luke Donforth: "Luke's Options are Limited"
>     http://www.madrobincallers.org/2013/01/25/attempting-a-grid-contra-choreography/
>     (refers to it as a "grid contra")
>
>     -Michael
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