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Luke --<br>
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For option 2 (thematically linked dances in alternation) I wonder if
you could just way it was a medley; not only keep calling but rather
than pingponging just between pairs you could use multiple pairs.<br>
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--Alan<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/1/2015 11:37 AM, Luke Donforth via
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<div>I should note, I've never actually tried calling
"Luke's Options are Limited" it was mostly a
theoretical exercise for me. To my knowledge it's
never been danced.<br>
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If you have only two sets, it's not clear to me how a
transgressive contras are functionally different than 4
face 4 dances or their cousin, Tempest Formation. (In my
box, I'd put "Kim's Game" under Tempest Formation.)<br>
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The Tempest: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qNp-n4CbdI">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qNp-n4CbdI</a><br>
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<div>It becomes a question of if everyone is changing lines,
or just half the couples are, but you're bouncing back and
forth. <br>
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<div>If that's all you want, great. There's lots of room to
write more 4 face 4 and tempest formation dances, and you
can incorporate pass through lines there.<br>
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If you have more than two sets involved, I haven't found a
way to keep things from being either complicated or boring
for some dancers.<br>
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<div>Option 1: all 1s and 2s progress the same way every time<br>
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<div>If you have a progression that's down one couple, and
over one set to the left for the 1s, and up one couple over
one set to the right for the 2s, you no longer change
numbers when you reach the bottom of the hall, you also
change numbers when you reach the sides. So even with 5 sets
across and 20 hands four deep, nobody is going to go more
than 5 hands-four from their original position. If you've
got a square (10 sets across, 10 hands four deep, etc) some
folks on the main diagonal see 10 different couples, but
other folks will bounce back and fourth on short diagonals
of just a few couples. <br>
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<div>Option 2: have options that vary the progression<br>
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<div>This is what "Luke's Options are Limited" attempts to do
(<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.madrobincallers.org/2013/01/25/attempting-a-grid-contra-choreography/">http://www.madrobincallers.org/2013/01/25/attempting-a-grid-contra-choreography/</a>
). If gives you different dances (thematically linked) to
travel to different points on the floor. You could find
other pairs of improper/becket dances using wide lines and
long lines, and even incorporate passing through lines. But
you're stuck with having to have different dances to call
and be calling all the way through the dance. I personally
try and get out of the way of the band and dancers
interacting, and dislike calling through the entire dance.<br>
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<div>Option 3: expand 4 face 4 to 6 face 6, 8 face 8, etc.<br>
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<div>I played around with this a bit, and I think others have
as well (Roger Auman?). There are dances up at <br>
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<div>I haven't done anything with them after writing them, but
if they inspire you; feel free to use them. The hard part
(in my opinion) is giving everyone something interesting to
do. If your line of 6 has a pass through along the set,
you've got to keep your trail buddy groups together and
permuting, or some folks get a bum ride.<br>
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<div>Option 4: I haven't found one, but let me know if you do!<br>
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<div>Have fun.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 11:36 AM,
Michael Dyck via Callers <span dir="ltr"><<a
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class="">On 15-05-01 01:02 AM, Lindsey Dono wrote:<br>
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Is "grid contra" the more standard terminology than
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I hadn't heard the term "transgressive contra" before, and
I'm not finding hits for the term in search engines.<br>
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Here's what I've got:<br>
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1990-1995<br>
Chris Kermiet: "Beckett's Crossing"<br>
(in his "Zany Contras and Other Stuff!")<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://k-1.us/contras/beckettscrossing.html"
target="_blank">http://k-1.us/contras/beckettscrossing.html</a><br>
(refers to it as "a progressive contra dance")<br>
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May 2010<br>
Peter Foster: "Crisscross"<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://pfoster.pcug.org.au/dance/contra.htm#cri"
target="_blank">http://pfoster.pcug.org.au/dance/contra.htm#cri</a><br>
(Doesn't really have a term for the dance form.)<br>
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Jan 2012?<br>
Seth Tepfer: "Transgression"<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://lists.sharedweight.net/pipermail/callers-sharedweight.net/2012-January/004159.html"
target="_blank">http://lists.sharedweight.net/pipermail/callers-sharedweight.net/2012-January/004159.html</a><br>
(refers to it as a "grid contra", but also refers to
progression across as "transgression", hence the dance's
title)<br>
See also other posts in that thread.<br>
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Jan 2013<br>
Luke Donforth: "Luke's Options are Limited"<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.madrobincallers.org/2013/01/25/attempting-a-grid-contra-choreography/"
target="_blank">http://www.madrobincallers.org/2013/01/25/attempting-a-grid-contra-choreography/</a><br>
(refers to it as a "grid contra")<br>
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-Michael
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