Hi Sylvia, Well I was referring to TED calling the last time.. maybe
that's what you meant.. I don't really remember what Ralph did, but I
suspect he did and that may even be where Ted picked that up..
bill
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*From:* trad-dance-callers(a)yahoogroups.com <trad-dance-callers@yahoogroup
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*Sent:* Tuesday, October 11, 2016 2:30 PM
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*Subject:* Re: [trad-dance-callers] Page & Sannella -- Dropping Out
Ralph made his name and fame calling singing squares. I can understand
why he would call the last time. A way of wrapping everything together.
Sylvia Miskoe Concord NH
On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 10:19 AM, Bill Olson callbill(a)hotmail.com
[trad-dance-callers] <trad-dance-callers(a)yahoogroups.com> wrote:
When Ted moved to Maine in 1990 I had the pleasure of working with
him at the 4th Friday North Whitefield dance.. That was "his dance" and he
called every month and I was doing sound. As a relatively new caller, I
also got a lot of "mentoring", Ted always like to share what he was doing
up there... I got to dance to his calling a lot as well. The band was "the
Usual Suspects" and other Maine bands and they definitely played medleys.
Ted would always specify a tune to be played with the dance he was going to
call.. He'd pass out a sheet of paper to the band, listing the dances and
suggested tunes.. "or similar" he would say. Ted was pretty fussy so if he
hadn't liked medleys he definitely would have said so, but we always played
medleys.. As far as dropping out, Ted definitely dropped out, though,
probably called for longer than is the norm these days.. I can remember him
dropping out, turning away from the dancers and start looking at the card
for the next dance.. BUT he had a sense about what was going on out on the
floor and would chime in to get things back on track, EVEN if his back was
to the dance.. I never figured HOW he did that.. Ted ALWAYS called the last
time through.. I still do that because I learned from him and to this day
it seems weird to me for a caller to NOT call the last time through!!~
Ted's programs pretty much always followed the same format, a couple
glossary dances then a circle mixer third on the list. A set of squares in
each half, but later on I think he changed to just one set of squares per
evening..
I only danced to Ralph a couple times. That was pretty late in his
life.. My memory is that he would drop back on the calling as well.. but it
wouldn't surprise me if he called all the way through some times. He sort
of liked to "demand attention" up there..
bill
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*Sent:* Monday, October 10, 2016 10:52 PM
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*Subject:* Re: [trad-dance-callers] Page & Sannella -- Dropping Out
ted Sannella and Ralph Page generally called the whole time. They both
used records and live music if available. Their programs contained as many
squares, which had to be called all the way through, as contras. Medleys
were unknown. You played the same tune all the way through the dance. In
the 60's the younger callers began outnumbering the oldsters. A contra
would go on forever as the newer callers got things started and then joined
the line. In defence, the musicians began using more than 1 tune per
dance. Have you ever had to play Rickett's Hornpipe 17 times? Of course
Newt Tolman wrote that you were not a dance musician until you could play
the tune, at proper tempo, without mistakes, 17 or 18 times.
The exception were the Chestnuts that had their own designated tune, NO
alternates.
Cheers,
Sylvia Miskoe, Concord NH
On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 5:13 PM, Ridge Kennedy srk3nn3dy(a)gmail.com
[trad-dance-callers] <trad-dance-callers(a)yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Dear All,
Those of you who can recall -- back in the day -- did callers like
Ralph Page and Ted Sannella "drop out" or did they continue calling. I
have a recording of Page and he calls throughout -- pretty much the same
patter every time, and even adds instructions to cross over at head and
foot. But maybe he knew he was being recorded and that wasn't standard
operating procedure???
I assume that some chestnuts didn't require calling at all. But when
it was a newer contra, how much calling did callers do in the 50s and 60s?
I theorize that callers began "dropping out" more and sooner as live
contra dance music became more prevalent and had more dynamic arrangements
-- one instrument or another taking leads, multi-tune medleys, etc.
Any thoughts on the history of contra callers dropping out?
Thanks,
Ridge
--
Ridge Kennedy [Exit 145]
When you stumble, make it part of the dance. - Anonymous
And we should consider every day lost on which we have not danced at
least once. And we should call every truth false which was not accompanied
by at least one laugh. - Friedrich Nietzsche