Re: Designating who does what in the figure: "????? Chain" ...

Designating who does what in the figure: "????? Chain" ... This is a subject that probably deserves its own thread - so I'll start it. The immediate spur to discuss this arises from the message quoted farther below. But I've been ruminating about the issue for 30+ years ... 30+ years ago, in Chicago, the figure "people's chain" was used occasionally. It was accepted as dancing the same action as "ladies chain", but from a proper set (all the gents on one side, all the ladies on the other). It was used [blasphemously, thought some] with some of the Chestnuts in place of "proper-set R&L thru," to add a bit of spice. About 30 years ago, I attended a dance weekend - in Kentucky, I think, (maybe Camp Levi Jackson?) - at which we had the unusual (for dance camps) situation of more men than women on the dance floor. (In fact, having an all-guy square evened things up pretty nicely.) It's safe to say that among all the above dancers, "gents chain" was already accepted as the gents doing a mirror image of the "ladies chain," starting from the lady's left. At the dance camp, Gene Hubert test-drove a new contra (can't remember the name, unfortunately - sorry) in which the gents were to the right of their partners on the sides of the set - and Gene wanted the gents to chain across. In the walk-through, Gene explained that he would call, "gents do a ladies chain." A perfectly good solution for the moment. But to me, it seemed a bit lacking for the long-haul. Gene and I had a discussion that evening about how this situation might be handled more generally. I suggested that we might, in this situation, say, "gents do a right-hand chain." Or, even better, just say, "chain by the right" or "right-hand chain" ... when it occurred to me that, if it weren't for the 'pesky problem' of tradition, "right-hand chain" and "left-hand chain" could handle all circumstances. And I opined that, just perhaps, we might even consider changing the traditional names of the figures this way to accommodate any other situations that might (and probably would) arise in the future. Gene took the side of the traditional skeptic in the discussion, incompletely convinced of the idea's usefulness. So - I'm here to pose the same question again: Might we, perhaps, consider changing the names of these figures to "right-hand chain" and "left-hand chain? Or at least, begin using these names side-by-side with the traditional names? Among other things, it accommodates something that never crossed my mind until a few years ago: gender neutrality. It would also make for a very interesting, entangling addition to the old square, "The Route". Roger Diggle On 3/20/17 at 10:27 PM, trad-dance-callers(a)yahoogroups.com (Michael Barraclough michael(a)michaelbarraclough.com [trad-dance-callers]) wrote: I first discussed it about 30 years ago with Gene Hubert -