New subject: Contemplating Crooked tunes...

27 Jun 2019

 Jack makes a good point - not all crooked tunes are crooked in the same way - so unless
you can get the tune structure ahead of time and then look for a dance it won't mess
up too bad this will be a difficult thing to do
Mac McKeever
    On Thursday, June 27, 2019, 10:56:17 AM CDT, Jack Mitchell
&lt;jmitchell.nc(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:  

 I once worked with a band that had some crooked Quebecois tunes that they wanted to do. 
One was A-A-B-0.5B -- so the last phrase was half length.  I found a dance that had
something that didn't move the dancers anywhere -- long lines, circle L 1x, etc -- in
the right place and just removed that from the dance.  They also had the crooked version
of Fleur de Madrigore which has an extra bar at the end of the A2.  I did that with a
dance that was not written for crooked tunes, but has an extra allemande 1/2 right there
that people are always late finishing.  With that tune, the dancers were right on time and
everything worked.  Beyond that, though, if you have a band that wants to do crooked
tunes, learn a few visiting couple squares or southern patter squares that don't need
to be right on the phrase and have them use those tunes for the squares.   
On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 7:46 AM Mac Mckeever via Organizers
&lt;organizers(a)lists.sharedweight.net&gt; wrote:

 There are a couple dances out there written for crooked tunes that are crooked in a
specific way (often 2 extra bars in the B part).  I tried one once and it just did not
feel right.  Running a swing longer is also awkward because crooked tunes feel (to the
dancers) like the phrase will end at the normal time an then it doesn't - so some will
try to move on too early.
Explain this to the band - there are so many great old time tunes that are not crooked.
Mac McKeever
    On Thursday, June 27, 2019, 05:46:39 AM CDT, Karlsruhe Contra Dance via Organizers
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  Hi List, 

first, thanks for all of your good input about my 'swing workshop' brainstorm.
Have taken note and will definitely use some of your ideas.

My next question is perhaps less of an organizational question and more of a calling
question. I hope it is still appropriate here. Do you know of any callers/bands who will
play/call to crooked tunes. I have some old-time musicians who like to play for me but
don't seem to understand why I insist on them playing straight tunes... (you would be
correct in assuming that they are not dancers).  Also, it has started to make me feel like
a party pooper because they loooove their crooked tunes and want to play them. 

I have stayed firm, but I wonder if there is a way I could humor them.  I mean, if the
swing corresponds to the crooked part, the swing just goes a bit longer, but eee. As a
dancer, I just can't image it working. Or maybe I have danced to crooked tunes without
even knowing it... Does anyone do this?  

thanks,Rebecca Sass
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