I’ve been reading these posts about how partners should hold each other and I think a
central point is missing. My comments are really towards the active dancing experience, no
so much a single topic workshop.
Grace.
Grace needs to be the central idea when we dance, and especially in a teaching opportunity
like a workshop.
A good dancer dances with some grace, which for me means that she/he dances in a way to
fit the other person, to be comfortable with the other person. As experienced dancers, I
bet everyone of us can pretty accurately read a dancer as we get closer for the first time
and do the right thing. And bam! A good swing happens. There are just so many variables
that having a standard rule just doesn’t seem feasible to me. Or even necessary.
I dance with lots of different people. I make a practice every month to do several dances
with first time dancers, or folks who are new to our hall, and I love doing it. I do it so
that they’ll have a good experience and want to come back. And it is always easy to find
at least one nice thing to say about how they’re dancing versus just pointing out
corrections. I wouldn’t line up with a new dancer and say, “Now, THIS is how you hold each
other for THESE reasons.” (I do hear other guys try to recite a manual to beginning
dancers.) What I do is take them in arms by seeing where they go first, and maybe doing
that. And then as the dance progresses I might make adjustments so they’re comfortable,
the communication happens, etc. It really isn’t that difficult to find that spot, and I
don’t want to get them into a position where it’s clear they’re not comfortable. Good
dancers just simply pay attention and make it good, and not worry about enforcing some
preconceived notions. And the beginning dancer adapts, and then hopefully the next person
down the line reads her and then makes it good again.
And these things even out. Not unlike a walk through that’s confusing, but then when the
music begins the dance just flows. In my experience beginning dancers are so much more
comfortable even by the second half of the evening (which they might stick around for if
people have been kind and graceful with them during the first half.)
The other thing that makes this conversation curious is there are no beginning dancers
reading this thread. I would bet there are no difficult dancers reading this thread, or
clampers, or arm-wrestling allemanders. If the purpose of this is to make the dance
experience good for everyone, with a special focus on new dancers, then we’re not really
getting closer to that objective by trying to describe with great accuracy the perfect
hold. I’m 5’10”, she’s 4’ 11”… no wait, my next neighbor is 6’2” and pretty seriously
outweighs me; hold on, here comes one of my favorite, regular partners and she likes to
move in close and swing fast; next one really likes the forearm hold; some ladies are
delighted by the basket where we both have our hands on the backs of each other (great,
strong hold); I also like to two hands swings if there’s room.
I’m know that we do need to be aware of ways of dancing that are not safe, are not
comfortable, and find ways to communicate that. But doing that isn’t helped by getting out
the recent edition of Popular Mechanics for Dancers, but rather with gentle suggestions
that encourages safer, more pleasant connectedness with their opposite.
Grace- So my interest is in the other person having a great time not only with the swing,
but with a prompting for the progression if that’s a good idea, or moving her back to
where she needs to be right now, or with a joke, or moving in a surprising way if that
makes her smile and laugh. And I need all that kind of fun helpfulness from time-to-time
myself!
Grace can be taught if it’s a central part of the conversation. If you raise awareness of
it.
I think you all get my point, and it clearly makes me an outlier to this conversation, so
I’ll now step away!
Stephen Moore
Lenox Contra Dance,
Lenox, MA
On Jun 19, 2019, at 12:43 PM, Jerome Grisanti via
Organizers <organizers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
When teaching, I ask the ladies to place their left hand on the gent's shoulder and
to support their own arm (i.e., not merely rest her arm on the gent's arm, but to
actively feel her part of the subtle push-me-pull-you dynamic of the frame).
When I run into a dreaded "clamper," I will in the case of a neighbor try to
ignore the discomfort and enjoy the interaction. In the case of a partner, I will ask her,
for me, to place her hand/arm as I described above. I make it a point that my request is
about my own comfort, and other men may or may not experience the same discomfort.
*clampers: people who lock down on my arm, in the process typically restricting my right
elbow, with their left arm. This is sometimes accompanied by a hand gripped tightly around
my arm between my bicep and my shoulder. These things I find uncomfortable (and I presume
others do as well).
I occasionally have someone who rests a lost of weight on my arm, in which case (if I
choose to say anything), I again make it about me and my bodily limitations and comfort. I
am currently strong and healthy, and can support a certain amount of weight and/or sloppy
dancing, but I don't wish to encourage it.
--Jerome
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