Re: [Musicians] Danceability of versions of the same tune (Sleepy-Eyed Joe)

First, the tune played by Norman Blake as well as the Sleepy Eyed Joe by Foghorn is not the same tune as the one played by Lyman Enloe. There is a transcription of the tune Lyman plays called Sleepy Joe in R. P. Christeson's "Old-Time Fiddler's Repertory." It's Hoedown #24 in book one. https://www.amazon.com/Old-Time-Fiddlers-Repertory-Traditional-Tunes/dp/082… The guitar version in Norman Blake's video misses the drive most of us strive for when playing for dances. It's not that a solo guitar can't do it, but it's missing the distinctive beat markers. The other versions all have backup instruments pushing the drive along... ~Erik Hoffman -----Original Message----- From: Musicians <musicians-bounces(a)lists.sharedweight.net> On Behalf Of jim saxe via Musicians Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 7:56 PM To: musicians(a)sharedweight.net Subject: Re: [Musicians] Danceability of versions of the same tune (Sleepy-Eyed Joe) In my message of earlier today, I offered links to four renditions of "Sleepy Eyed Joe", including this one from Foghorn's out-of-print _Weiser Sunrise_ album: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2RI8FlwvQg Foghorn Stringband ~134 BPM Thanks to Meg Dedolph for an off-list message pointing out that the aforesaid video has been diasbled since I first posted a link to it in 2015 and for calling my attention to a video on the Westport Folk & Bluegrass Festival's channel of a live performance by Foghorn at Matt Molloy's Pub, Bridge Street, Westport, County Mayo, Ireland in 2016: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sd_q8vaQuI0 Foghorn Stringband ~137-138 BPM I've also found that the version from the _Weiser Sunrise_ album is currently available here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sd_q8vaQuI0 The title and description of the Westport video attribute the tune to Norman Blake, but as I said in the postscript to my earlier message, notes accompanying one of Blake's CDs attribute the tune to one Ellis Hall. I haven't heard Hall's 1952 78 RPM recording of the tune, so I can't say how it compares to any of the others I've mentioned. Using Google Advanced Book Search, I found a 1952 copyright catalog with a listing attributing "Sleepy Eyed Joe" to Ellis John Hall. Whether Hall was claiming authorship of the tune itself or just of his performance/arrangement is more than I can say for certain, but I didn't find any older references to "Sleepy Eyed Joe" as a tune name. --Jim _______________________________________________ Musicians mailing list Musicians(a)lists.sharedweight.net http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/musicians-sharedweight.net