5 Mar
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8:54 p.m.
On 3/5/2016 10:44 AM, Rich Sbardella via Callers wrote:
I rarely call a contra at a One Night Party Dance, but
occasionally I am
asked to. I have a few in my cards, but can anyone make some sure fire
recommendations.
Assume 95%-100% non dancers.
Just getting to the duple minor progression can be quite a process. The
simplest duple minor I've got is not technically a contra (it's an
English ceilidh dance), but works well as a mine-sweeper to see whether
more complex duples will work. It's called the Itchington Long Dance
(Hugh Rippon, 1990). Star L/R; cnrs dosido; 1s down/bk/cast; 1s swing
and look down for new Ns. If your crowd is up for it and you've got
room, the B2 can be a general P swing, but I like to do it just for the
1s to make the progression clearer.
Washington Quickstep (a contra chestnut) is good too, and if the 1s lose
track of who needs to be on the right after the swing, nothing terrible
happens. Star R/L, 1s dn/bk/cast; R&L thru over/bk; LLFB, 1s sw.
Kalia
5 Mar
5 Mar
9:01 p.m.
New subject: [Callers] Contras for One Nighters
Kalia,
You make a good point. My most successful contra for such applications has
been Haste to the Wedding in a proper line.
I have had trouble with the cast at Party Dances. Do you demonstrate it?
How do you describe it?
I like your suggestion of Washington Quickstep. I might try it with 1.s
DSD, then 2s DSD instead of R&L Thrus.
Rich
On Sat, Mar 5, 2016 at 3:54 PM, Kalia Kliban via Callers <
callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
On 3/5/2016 10:44 AM, Rich Sbardella via Callers
wrote:
I rarely call a contra at a One Night Party
Dance, but occasionally I am
asked to. I have a few in my cards, but can anyone make some sure fire
recommendations.
Assume 95%-100% non dancers.
Just getting to the duple minor progression can be quite a process. The
simplest duple minor I've got is not technically a contra (it's an English
ceilidh dance), but works well as a mine-sweeper to see whether more
complex duples will work. It's called the Itchington Long Dance (Hugh
Rippon, 1990). Star L/R; cnrs dosido; 1s down/bk/cast; 1s swing and look
down for new Ns. If your crowd is up for it and you've got room, the B2
can be a general P swing, but I like to do it just for the 1s to make the
progression clearer.
Washington Quickstep (a contra chestnut) is good too, and if the 1s lose
track of who needs to be on the right after the swing, nothing terrible
happens. Star R/L, 1s dn/bk/cast; R&L thru over/bk; LLFB, 1s sw.
Kalia
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In looking at Kalia's suggestions, I've put the Itchinton dance in what
is more readable to me. Kalia, do I have it correct?
Itchington Long Dance
Hugh Rippon, 1990
(pretending it's) Improper
A1: Star L/R;
A2:Wm DSD; Mn DSD
B1: Ones down center, turn alone, return, cast
B2:1s swing and look down for new Nbrs
For beginning dancers, I'd change B2 to Long lines forward and back
(good for connection, reduces swing time, which is often better for
beginners)
~Erik
510-410-0456 Mobile
510-444-4397 Land-Line
On 3/5/2016 12:54 PM, Kalia Kliban via Callers wrote:
On 3/5/2016 10:44 AM, Rich Sbardella via Callers
wrote:
I rarely call a contra at a One Night Party
Dance, but occasionally I am
asked to. I have a few in my cards, but can anyone make some sure fire
recommendations.
Assume 95%-100% non dancers.
Just getting to the duple minor progression can be quite a process.
The simplest duple minor I've got is not technically a contra (it's an
English ceilidh dance), but works well as a mine-sweeper to see
whether more complex duples will work. It's called the Itchington
Long Dance (Hugh Rippon, 1990). Star L/R; cnrs dosido; 1s
down/bk/cast; 1s swing and look down for new Ns. If your crowd is up
for it and you've got room, the B2 can be a general P swing, but I
like to do it just for the 1s to make the progression clearer.
Washington Quickstep (a contra chestnut) is good too, and if the 1s
lose track of who needs to be on the right after the swing, nothing
terrible happens. Star R/L, 1s dn/bk/cast; R&L thru over/bk; LLFB, 1s
sw.
Kalia
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New subject: [Callers] Contras for One Nighters
On 3/5/2016 1:27 PM, Erik Hoffman via Callers wrote:
In looking at Kalia's suggestions, I've put
the Itchinton dance in what
is more readable to me. Kalia, do I have it correct?
As written, it's proper (or, for a non-dancer crowd, "it doesn't matter
which side you're on as long as you're across from your partner'), so
I'd avoid using the gendered terms in the A2. And as written, it was RH
then LH star but I think it flows better the other way.
Itchington Long Dance
Hugh Rippon, 1990
(pretending it's) Improper
A1: Star L/R;
A2:Wm DSD; Mn DSD
B1: Ones down center, turn alone, return, cast
B2:1s swing and look down for new Nbrs
For beginning dancers, I'd change B2 to Long lines forward and back
(good for connection, reduces swing time, which is often better for
beginners)
Good suggestion! I'm making a note on the card.
Kalia
12:32 a.m.
New subject: [Callers] Fw: Contras for One Nighters
On the rare occasion when I call a contra to new dancers - I use one similar - but with an
easier progression
A1 Cir Left 1X - Neighbors Do-si-doA2 Women Do-si-do - Mem Do-Si -doB1 Long lines -
1s swing - face downB2 Down hall - do not turn - back up 1s arch and guide 2s thru arch to
new neighbors
Even this easy - I have strange things happen - like the time that when couples were out
at the bottom - they ran back to the top
Mac McKeever
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On 3/5/2016 1:27 PM, Erik Hoffman via Callers wrote:
In looking at Kalia's suggestions, I've put
the Itchinton dance in what
is more readable to me. Kalia, do I have it correct?
As written, it's proper (or, for a non-dancer crowd, "it doesn't matter
which side you're on as long as you're across from your partner'), so
I'd avoid using the gendered terms in the A2. And as written, it was RH
then LH star but I think it flows better the other way.
Itchington Long Dance
Hugh Rippon, 1990
(pretending it's) Improper
A1: Star L/R;
A2:Wm DSD; Mn DSD
B1: Ones down center, turn alone, return, cast
B2:1s swing and look down for new Nbrs
For beginning dancers, I'd change B2 to Long lines forward and back
(good for connection, reduces swing time, which is often better for
beginners)
Good suggestion! I'm making a note on the card.
Kalia
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2:54 a.m.
New subject: [Callers] Contras for One Nighters
~Erik
510-410-0456 Mobile
510-444-4397 Land-Line
On 3/5/2016 4:03 PM, Kalia Kliban via Callers wrote:
On 3/5/2016 1:27 PM, Erik Hoffman via Callers wrote:
As written, it's proper (or, for a non-dancer crowd, "it doesn't
matter which side you're on as long as you're across from your
partner'), so I'd avoid using the gendered terms in the A2. And as
written, it was RH then LH star but I think it flows better the other
way.
Of course! That's why I wrote "(pretending it's) Improper." I did
suspect that it'd be proper, with first corners & second corners, but I
suppose I'm more of an American style caller...
And, about those A2 terms, for a beginner group I'd change that to:
A2: Partner DSD; Neighbor DSD
as anything on the bias -- especially when it's likely to change when
you transform from one to two or vice versa--is confusing for the
uninitiated...
~erik hoffman
oakland, ca
Itchington Long Dance
Hugh Rippon, 1990
(pretending it's) Improper
A1: Star L/R;
A2:Wm DSD; Mn DSD
B1: Ones down center, turn alone, return, cast
B2:1s swing and look down for new Nbrs
For beginning dancers, I'd change B2 to Long lines forward and back
(good for connection, reduces swing time, which is often better for
beginners)
Good suggestion! I'm making a note on the card.
Kalia
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