11 Apr
2017
11 Apr
'17
12:48 a.m.
Hi Esther,
If anyone has not mentioned it, I feel there is a kink in the flow trying to go from a
petronella to a chain. As you spin R, it is the left hand which feels available as you
face the set because your body has been rotating clockwise, even as it move CCW around the
minor set. So there will be this washing machine action to get into the chain. You might
be counting on the claps to arrest that movement, but I still feel it's not an
especially satisfying entry into the chain. A gents chain, otoh, would be peachy.
What, to you, is the hook in this dance? What were you going for?
Best,
Andrea
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On Apr 10, 2017, at 5:24 PM, Esther Fraser via Callers
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Hey folks,
Has anyone seen this dance already?
A1: Balance the ring & petronella
Ladies Chain
A2: Full Hey, Ladies pass R (16)
B1: Ladies Chain
P Allemande L
B2: Balance the ring & Petronella
Balance the ring & California twirl
Also interested in other dances that have a Ladies' Chain to into Allemande Left
(with the one you chain to) combo. I think I might have seen it somewhere, but I can't
remember where.
Thanks,
Esther Fraser
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6:39 a.m.
New subject: [Callers] Does this dance already exist?
Hi, all. Actually, I think the transition from the petronella to the ladies chain is a
good one. There are certain moves in dancing, that I’ve heard called “poise points,” where
one purposefully switches direction, and it can be very satisfying. For me, the spin to
the right feels like the winding up of a spring that you then unleash in the other
direction. Some dances that look as if they have good flow end up having so much clockwise
spin that it tires people.
On Apr 10, 2017, at 5:48 PM, Andrea Nettleton via
Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Hi Esther,
If anyone has not mentioned it, I feel there is a kink in the flow trying to go from a
petronella to a chain. As you spin R, it is the left hand which feels available as you
face the set because your body has been rotating clockwise, even as it move CCW around the
minor set. So there will be this washing machine action to get into the chain. You might
be counting on the claps to arrest that movement, but I still feel it's not an
especially satisfying entry into the chain. A gents chain, otoh, would be peachy.
What, to you, is the hook in this dance? What were you going for?
Best,
Andrea
Sent from my external brain
On Apr 10, 2017, at 5:24 PM, Esther Fraser via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net
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Hey folks,
Has anyone seen this dance already?
A1: Balance the ring & petronella
Ladies Chain
A2: Full Hey, Ladies pass R (16)
B1: Ladies Chain
P Allemande L
B2: Balance the ring & Petronella
Balance the ring & California twirl
Also interested in other dances that have a Ladies' Chain to into Allemande Left
(with the one you chain to) combo. I think I might have seen it somewhere, but I can't
remember where.
Thanks,
Esther Fraser
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New subject: [Callers] Does this dance already exist?
Hey Martha,
I agree some dances are entirely too clockwise. But there's a difference between
graceful shifts in direction to unwind, like circle L to Cir R with the next, or M alle L
to P Alle R, or such, and contactless momentum changes. Some of us spin hard. With
nothing but our own knees and muscles to accomplish the shift, it's gonna feel
awkward, not a poise point. But to each their own opinion. I think the dance gets you
progressed and all, so if the question is will it "work", yeah. Not convinced
about all the transitions. Shrug.
Andrea
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On Apr 11, 2017, at 2:39 AM, Martha Wild via Callers
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Hi, all. Actually, I think the transition from the petronella to the ladies chain is a
good one. There are certain moves in dancing, that I’ve heard called “poise points,” where
one purposefully switches direction, and it can be very satisfying. For me, the spin to
the right feels like the winding up of a spring that you then unleash in the other
direction. Some dances that look as if they have good flow end up having so much clockwise
spin that it tires people.
On Apr 10, 2017, at 5:48 PM, Andrea Nettleton via
Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Hi Esther,
If anyone has not mentioned it, I feel there is a kink in the flow trying to go from a
petronella to a chain. As you spin R, it is the left hand which feels available as you
face the set because your body has been rotating clockwise, even as it move CCW around the
minor set. So there will be this washing machine action to get into the chain. You might
be counting on the claps to arrest that movement, but I still feel it's not an
especially satisfying entry into the chain. A gents chain, otoh, would be peachy.
What, to you, is the hook in this dance? What were you going for?
Best,
Andrea
Sent from my external brain
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Hey folks,
Has anyone seen this dance already?
A1: Balance the ring & petronella
Ladies Chain
A2: Full Hey, Ladies pass R (16)
B1: Ladies Chain
P Allemande L
B2: Balance the ring & Petronella
Balance the ring & California twirl
Also interested in other dances that have a Ladies' Chain to into Allemande Left
(with the one you chain to) combo. I think I might have seen it somewhere, but I can't
remember where.
Thanks,
Esther Fraser
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New subject: [Callers] Does this dance already exist?
I could visualize giving a left hand to your partner to help the transition
from petronella spin to ladies chain. The ladies' orientation remains
facing into the set, while the gents would spin a bit more and face out,
with a left-hand pull-by helping ladies into the chain and the gents into
position for the courtesy turn.
The real challenge would seem to be the screams of dancers who don't get
their mandatory swing. :-)
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