(aside: I love this list! So very helpful) RE: The Wheel Bill Olson noted that the dance can be challenging with the ladies in the outside circle, due to their generally shorter arms. Given that the promenade is a long 16 beats, Has anyone tried adding a two hand turn after 12 beats to put the gents on the outside? I wonder if this is one of the things that Rick Mohr tried while attempting to reduce socket injuries. ?? Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2018 21:06:54 +0000 From: Bill Olson <callbill(a)hotmail.com> Yeah, That's what I was more thinking of than moderately difficult dances like Beneficial Tradition.. I like Gene Hubert's circle mixer "the wheel" : The Wheel, circle mixer by Gene Hubert A1 Promenade (CCW)(16) A2 (face partner Gents facing out, Women facing in) join 2 hands with partner and walk ~8 steps IN (8), join hands in concentric circles and walk ~8 steps back out (8) B1 all circle LEFT (opposite directions obviously) B2 *SWING* (nearest person)