Donna, Here are the figures for the three suggestions I sent. David's Triplet # 5 (David Smuckler). It has a lovely hey for 6 w/ a P Gyre & Swing to finish. A-1 1s cast to bottom, ret up inside and cast around w/ same gender 2s All face P, dsd 1 1/4 to wavy line of 6, P in RH A-2 Bal wave, P Al R 1/2 reform (luv it) wave, Bal pull by P by RH into (Hands may help at first) B-1 Hey for 6, when next you see your P B-2 P Gyre & Gimble, end facing up to be proper, new top cpl. Levi Jackson for 5 cpls. 1 top cpl and 2 pairs of sides, horseshoe shaped. A-1 Sides R & L across set, ones walk to center slot btw 2 prs of sides (traffic island) Sides R & L back, ones finish walking to bottom of set and cast out back to top A-2 While top cpl is walking back to place, sides circle left (hands 4) 1X All face P and Do Si Do 1X B-1 5 Ladies Star R (Leave 1, pass 1, turn w/ the next, guys NEED to help out here) Again, 5 Ladies Star R (leave 1, pass 1, turn the next) Set needs to tighten up for B-1 B-2 Prom your new P 1 pl CCW & (balance if time) and swing your new P. New Tops. Square Line Special Octet by Gary Roodman starts w/ 2 hands 4 DI not too far apart. A-1 Lines of 4 at side F & B Trade places w/ person across in a very leisurely R Sh Gyre (lots of time on this 1) A-2 Face same person and RH balance, pull by, pull by L w/ N w/in your hands 4 Swing the next you meet (now you have broken out of hands 4) end in a sq. B-1 Heads F & B Head Ladies Chain B-2 Heads go out to R and Circle L 1X w/ Sides, til heads are bk to bk in ctr. Sides arch, heads pop thru, go around nearest side to from lines at side. With the right group, you can have lots of fun w/ this. If the Sides go out to R to circle w/ Heads, Heads arch, sides pop, and you have turned the set 90 degrees (surprise) and lines at head go F-B. You can basically call whatever you want in the B-1 to make things fun, but use your best judgment, it can get confusing dancing this the first time. I'm still looking at ways to get the entire set to mix Ps. As presently written, not everyone gets to be a P to all 4 dancing the opposite roll. Would love some insights how to make this happen in a simple fashion (at least at first). Paul