It's 5 am, and I find myself awake and writing dances; specifically 4x4s. Unfortunately, I don't have 8 dancers waiting on my insomnia to test things, so I figured I'd send them to shared weight... Possibly this is a choreographic question already answered in square dancing, but I'm not familiar with the outcome. How well does a four person do-si-do work? I'm thinking of something along the lines of: Doubled-si-do Four Facing Four A1 ----------- (4) Give and Gents take (up and down) (12) Neighbor swing A2 ----------- (8) Women's Chain back to partner (up and down), turn to face in (8) All four Women Do-si-do 1x B1 ----------- (8) All four Men Do-si-do 1x (8) All eight Circle Left 1/2x B2 ----------- (16) Partner balance and swing End facing line of direction In my head, the four person do-si-do is a right hand star sans hands; but not sure how well it'll fly; especially since the right diagonal women have less far to turn to face in than the left diagonal women coming out of the chain. Thoughts? Thank you -- Luke Donforth Luke.Donforth(a)gmail.com <Luke.Donev(a)gmail.com>