7 Apr
2018
7 Apr
'18
9:11 p.m.
I think you're correct about it taking between 4 and 8 beats (more like 6).
If you want someone to ask, I'm pretty sure Jane Ewing of Alabama wrote a dance with
this move in it.
I don't think that we need to be rigid about the names we use today, but I suspect
that historically cowboy loop was for four people and rip and snort was for 8. There are
callers who have been calling longer than I have and can correct me if I'm wrong.
Tom
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On Apr 7, 2018, at 1:12 PM, K Panton via Callers
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I've looked in the usual places and came up with only two examples of a dance with a
Rip/Snort (Rip 'n' Snort?) but one is inaccessible online.
How many beats does it take to dance a rip/snort for two couples? My brain says 4 is too
short and 8 is too long. I found one dance that pairs it with a ring balance for a total
of 8 beats.
I haven't access to "Roll Over Johannes" to see how Becky Hill made use of
it.
Thanks
Ken Panton
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New subject: [Callers] How many beats to a rip/snort?
All,
I wrote the following dance with a Rip and Snort. Due to the slight modification and
squishy timing of down the hall it works out. I think it usually takes about 4 -6 beats in
my dance.
Rip and Snort
duple improper
Ben Werner
A1: (8) Balance the ring, Rip and Snort (1s arch 2s dive through, separate,
maintaining connection, end in a short facing down the hall line with the 1s in the
middle.)
(8) Down the Hall, 2s gate the 1s (1s keep walking forward and 2s back up to
end with the 2s in the middle and 1s on the outside)
A2: (8) Up the hall
(8) Gents Allemande Right 1 1/2
B1: (16) Partner Balance and swing
B2: (8) balance the ring, petronella
(8) balance the ring, California twirl
Cheers,
Ben
On Apr 7, 2018, at 3:11 PM, Tom Hinds via Callers
<callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
I think you're correct about it taking between 4 and 8 beats (more like 6).
If you want someone to ask, I'm pretty sure Jane Ewing of Alabama wrote a dance with
this move in it.
I don't think that we need to be rigid about the names we use today, but I suspect
that historically cowboy loop was for four people and rip and snort was for 8. There are
callers who have been calling longer than I have and can correct me if I'm wrong.
Tom
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 7, 2018, at 1:12 PM, K Panton via Callers
<callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
I've looked in the usual places and came up with only two examples of a dance with a
Rip/Snort (Rip 'n' Snort?) but one is inaccessible online.
How many beats does it take to dance a rip/snort for two couples? My brain says 4 is too
short and 8 is too long. I found one dance that pairs it with a ring balance for a total
of 8 beats.
I haven't access to "Roll Over Johannes" to see how Becky Hill made use of
it.
Thanks
Ken Panton
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1:54 p.m.
New subject: [Callers] How many beats to a rip/snort?
Jane's Rip & Snort Dec 2011
Dup Im
A1 See-Saw N, Bal Cir
2's Rip & Snort up thru 1's
A2 4 in Line-Turn Alone, Back & bend to ring
B1 Circle Left 3, Partner Sw
B2 Ladies Chain, Star Left
Jane Ewing
Grant, AL
Regarding timing... on its own A1 is technically longer then 16 for the
average dancer......however the timing in B2 seldom takes 16. When the
2 are in action together 9 sets out of 10 have no problem. Rip & Snort
will still get close to 8 counts to accomplish. This is an easy dance
that brings out laughter. It is also good to set up the caller to use
R&S later in the evening in a square without having to teach the move
during the Sq Dance walk thru. Enjoy. Also a big thanks to Tom Hinds
who was my sounding board when working on this one
On 4/7/2018 4:11 PM, Tom Hinds via Callers wrote:
I think you're correct about it taking between 4
and 8 beats (more like 6).
If you want someone to ask, I'm pretty sure Jane Ewing of Alabama wrote a dance with
this move in it.
I don't think that we need to be rigid about the names we use today, but I suspect
that historically cowboy loop was for four people and rip and snort was for 8. There are
callers who have been calling longer than I have and can correct me if I'm wrong.
Tom
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