13 Mar
2018
13 Mar
'18
7:34 p.m.
I, luckily, never get tired of this conversation as I feel that it’s really important and
I feel that it is as yet unresolved. I find it heartening and fascinating that we all are
still engaged in this, working so hard to find a solution. It’s also one of my favorite
moves.
So, that said, I wonder what others think of the suggestion earlier today, “Look-see”. Is
it too “twee”? It feels good to me, both descriptive of the essence of the move - eye
contact - and easy to say. And I think you could maybe make it meet the noun/verb
criterion, with some wiggling.
On Mar 13, 2018, at 3:27 PM, Ric Goldman - Letsdance
via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Hi Kalia,
I independently came up with using kipsie myself on the way down to calling the Palo Alto
contra. I tried it out with dancers before the dance and during the lesson. The overall
response was negative. 2 comments came back as: "You're just trying to not say
gypsy, so it's still offensive". I ended up using right-shoulder round during
the dance and got further feedback during the break and after the dance. Again, kipsey
got a bad response, although that may be because it was new. I think folks are getting a
lot of replacement-term fatigue ("what, now this?"). Right-shoulder round
seemed to be the preferred term amongst the dancers themselves - they claim to understand
it best. Still, I'm not giving up quite yet. 😊
(Note, the PA Contra doesn't yet have an official policy banning the g-word. They
leave it up to the caller.)
Thanx, Ric Goldman
Portland, OR
P.S. And NO, Kipsey is not an ethnic slur against people from Poughkeepsie, New York.
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Subject: Re: [Callers] More substitute terms for the g-word
On 3/13/2018 11:02 AM, Martha Wild via Callers wrote:
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Delia Clark
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Interesting discussion on the Portland Country
Dance Community
Facebook page. Lots of great suggestions. A lot of people really don’t
like “right shoulder round” (I’m one of them). I tried one of their
suggestions last night - Kipsey - and it worked amazingly well.
I've been using "R/L shoulders around" since it has, at least so far, been
preferable to the alternatives. The big advantage of the word "gypsy" is that
it's both a noun and a verb, so you can say "gypsy your neighbor" or
"dance a mirror gypsy with your partner." RSA is more cumbersome and less
flexible.
Gotta say, I really like "kipsey." A lot. It's the first alternative
I've heard that scratches the same itch as "gypsy" without being excessively
twee or hard to say or hard to hear.
Other CA Bay Area callers on the list, what do you think about this possibility?
Kalia
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