Um, yes, difference is in the B1, of course.
~erik hoffman
On 7/12/2015 1:30 PM, Amy Carroll wrote:
>
> Hi Erik -
>
>
> I'm thinking you mean the difference between your dance and Tony's is
> in the B1, not the B2? Am I right?
>
>
> Amy Carroll
>
> Seattle
>
>> On July 12, 2015 at 1:41 PM Erik Hoffman via Callers
>> <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>>
>> On Writing Dances that have been Written:
>>
>> Years ago our we danced Bill Cochran's:
>> /Third Friday/
>> A1 Neighbor Balance & Swing
>> A2 Down Hall 4 in Line, Turn as Couple, Return, Fold Line
>> B1 Women Chan -- over & back
>> B2 Partner Balance, Square Thru Two, Partner Balance, Square Thru
>> Two to next Neighbor
>>
>> I loved the B2 move, but wanted a partner swing in the dance, so I
>> made the:
>> /Second Third Friday/
>> Improper
>> Erik Hoffman
>> A1 Neighbor Balance & Swing
>> A2 Men Allemande Left 1½; Partner Swing
>> B1 Right & Left Thru Across the set; Women chain back
>> B2 Partner Balance, Square Thru Two, Partner Balance, Square Thru
>> Two to next Neighbor.
>>
>> And, I published it in my first book, Contra Comments.
>>
>> Turns out Tony Parkes had the same idea, and he wrote:
>> /Friday Night Fever/
>> with the only difference being the B2, where Tony's dance goes:
>> B2 Partner Promenade; Women Chain
>> -- Which I now like better. And, Tony wrote his dance prior to me
>> Tony published it in one of his books (don't recall which)
>>
>> Turns out Myrtle Wilhite also wrote and published this dance, the
>> same as my version, and called it /Balanced Out #2/
>>
>> In looking at composition dates, Tony's came first, mine second, and
>> Ms. Wilhite's third -- all in the late 80s or early 90s.
>>
>> I'm pretty sure we all came out with this dance independently. Both
>> Tony and I attribute Bill Cochran for the basic Idea. Myrtle doesn't,
>> so, perhaps she came up with the dance independently.
>>
>> But the point of this is, we choreographers are all bound to put
>> together some dance that someone else has also come up with. At this
>> point, it's great to have this list to check that a sequence is
>> original. It goes a long way to checking this.
>>
>> ~erik hoffman
>> oakland, ca
>>
Hi everyone. I'm teaching a summer string intensive near Asheville NC this
week and my host has emergent family medical issues that need evening
attention.
I'm in a charming B&B in Weaverville and get done with teaching at 5:00...
I would DEARLY love to find a carpool to the local dances, I'd be HAPPY to
recompense gas/mileage.
If anyone has any suggestions re: who to contact, which Facebook page to
post on, I'd love to hear them. My phone's 802-222-7598.
IN RETURN, may I offer you the chance to call dances in FABULOUS Pierce's
Hall, East Putney, VT, longtime home of callers Fred Breunig and Rich
Blazej?
Possessor of one of the best two-holer outhouses on the contra scene? Last
Saturday of every month, and if you want a TRULY scintillating time, come
on the months the All-Comers band is playing with its phalanx of fiddlers,
masses of mandoliners, fleets of flautists, grand line of guitarists, and
also a few dogs? We pay a PRINCELY sum.
Actually, if you want to call Putney and know nothing about Asheville, you
can still email me.
Cheers,
Amy
Keith,
You probably missed my response. The Becket dance you refer to was
written by me and is called The Host. I'm embarrassed that I took
credit for The Host since it really isn't original. I just never
figured out that it was the same as Piece of Cake until Martha
mentioned it. So I'd say yes the dance you called is Piece of
Cake. In my mind the first one who writes the dance get the credit
and variations like this are not original compositions.
T
On 7/11/2015 7:32 PM, Luke Donforth via Callers wrote:
> Levi Jackson! Although the band has to know it...
Not every band is up to this tune, either, even with sheet music in
advance. A while back Martha Wild suggested that Ragtime Annie (minus
the C part) worked well for this dance, and it's a tune that a lot more
bands might know. Thanks, Martha, for the suggestion!
> Are you looking for triplets?
>
> Microchasmic
> by Ann Fallon
One of my favorite triplets, and great for teaching contra corners to
newer dancers.
> David’s Triplet #7
> David Smukler
> Formation: Triplet
>
> A1 -----------
> (8) (Couple one around couple two) Lady round two and the gent cut through
> (8) Circle four hands to the left, once around
> A2 -----------
> (16) Neighbor balance and swing (top 2 couples, 3s may swing Ptr if desired)
> B1 -----------
> (8) (Couple one around couple three) Gent around two and the lady cut
> through
> (8) Circle six hands to the left, halfway around
> B2 -----------
> (8) Partner Do-si-do
> (8) Partner swing
The "gent round 2 lady drop through" part moves surprisingly quickly.
If your dancers lag at all during that section, you'll need to adjust
later by dropping out the balance or the dosido.
There's a square set dance by Brooke Friendly and Chris Sackett called
"Banjo in a Bear Suit" that might work well for an adventurous contra
group. It's another challenging tune that you don't want to surprise
your band with, but as with LJR there may be a more common tune that
would work for this. It's kind of a mixer. It's written for English
dancers, hence the turn singles.
Banjo In A Bear Suit
4C sq
A1 1-4 P balance F&B then pass through with a turn single R to meet
someone new at corner of set.
5-8 Repeat. Heads and sides have swapped position.
A2 1-8 Actives (current sides) form ring and balance, Petronella R,
balance and Petronella R, then face nearest head person for...
B 1-8 Parallel whole heys for 4 along set, starting by R.
9-12 In 4s (not the 4 who were in the hey, but 2 from each hey),
R-hand star once around
13-16 While heads (ends) swing, the actives/sides/middles square
through (starting with the active who was in the star with them, 4 beats
for each change of the square through), ending in a square.
There are some orientation challenges involved in this dance, so it's a
"high five" moment when you get a set all the way through.
Kalia
This is a very fine improper dance by Carol Kopp, and it's called Piece of Cake - Bob
Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2015 15:42:55 -0400
To: mawild(a)sbcglobal.net
CC: callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net
Subject: Re: [Callers] Title and author if this dance, please?
From: callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net
Thanks, this will probably go into my box for an easy Hey dance.
On Jul 11, 2015 3:09 PM, "Martha Wild via Callers" <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Duple Improper version:A Piece O' Cake by Carol Kopp
On Jul 11, 2015, at 11:55 AM, Ron Blechner via Callers wrote:
Instead of an odd progression, I'd just start the dance at the A2 and make it duple improper.N B+S (4,12)
Hey (GL, PR, LL, NR) (16)
Gents cross L (2)
PS (14)
Circle L 3/4 (8, forgiving)
Bal Ring, Cali Twirl (4,4)It's a nice simple Hey dance with two swings. Why complicate it with unnecessary CCW Becket progression in the A1 when you can do a duple Imp with a B2 progression?Buy I suspect this one has to have been written already, no?Ron Blechner
On Jul 11, 2015 2:32 PM, "Don Veino via Callers" <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Also it appears to progress backwards as noted - shouldn't it be Becket-CCW/Right instead?
-Don
On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 2:04 PM, James Saxe via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Keith,
I don't have a title or author for the dance you ask about,
but I hae a question. Are you sure you mean
> B1 Hey for 4, M start R
? When men start a hey after a swing, I think it's much
more common for them to start by left shoulders than by
right.
--Jim
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Thanks! My apologies to Cis Hinkle for getting that wrong.
On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 10:42 PM, Jack Mitchell <jmitchell.nc(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> I have it as Rocket City Romp by Cis Hinkle. Great dance
>
> On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 10:29 PM, Luke Donforth via Callers <
> callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I recently had the pleasure and honor of calling at a weekend with Lisa
>> Greenleaf. I had just called one of my own dances, and then went to call
>> one of Lisa's. After walking it through and announcing it as such, Lisa
>> told me that she didn't write the dance. (She was very gracious about it,
>> and we had a good laugh.)
>>
>> I had it in my box as Gypsy Moon by Lisa Greenleaf. I'm not sure if it's
>> same title, but different author and I conflated them, or if it's another
>> name entirely. But if anyone recognizes it, I'd like to give credit where
>> it's due.
>>
>> NOT Gypsy Moon
>> unknown
>> Type: Contra
>> Formation: Duple-Improper
>>
>> A1 -----------
>> (8) Neighbor Balance Right, pull by, pull by Ptr across set
>> (8) Neighbor swing
>> A2 -----------
>> (8) Long lines, forward and back
>> (8) Women allemande Right 1-1/2
>> B1 -----------
>> (16) Partner balance and swing
>> B2 -----------
>> (8) Women's Chain across
>> (4) Right to Your Partner, balance Right
>> (4) pull by Right with Ptr, and left with Neighbor on to the next
>>
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I have it as Rocket City Romp by Cis Hinkle. Great dance
On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 10:29 PM, Luke Donforth via Callers <
callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I recently had the pleasure and honor of calling at a weekend with Lisa
> Greenleaf. I had just called one of my own dances, and then went to call
> one of Lisa's. After walking it through and announcing it as such, Lisa
> told me that she didn't write the dance. (She was very gracious about it,
> and we had a good laugh.)
>
> I had it in my box as Gypsy Moon by Lisa Greenleaf. I'm not sure if it's
> same title, but different author and I conflated them, or if it's another
> name entirely. But if anyone recognizes it, I'd like to give credit where
> it's due.
>
> NOT Gypsy Moon
> unknown
> Type: Contra
> Formation: Duple-Improper
>
> A1 -----------
> (8) Neighbor Balance Right, pull by, pull by Ptr across set
> (8) Neighbor swing
> A2 -----------
> (8) Long lines, forward and back
> (8) Women allemande Right 1-1/2
> B1 -----------
> (16) Partner balance and swing
> B2 -----------
> (8) Women's Chain across
> (4) Right to Your Partner, balance Right
> (4) pull by Right with Ptr, and left with Neighbor on to the next
>
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Hello all,
I recently had the pleasure and honor of calling at a weekend with Lisa
Greenleaf. I had just called one of my own dances, and then went to call
one of Lisa's. After walking it through and announcing it as such, Lisa
told me that she didn't write the dance. (She was very gracious about it,
and we had a good laugh.)
I had it in my box as Gypsy Moon by Lisa Greenleaf. I'm not sure if it's
same title, but different author and I conflated them, or if it's another
name entirely. But if anyone recognizes it, I'd like to give credit where
it's due.
NOT Gypsy Moon
unknown
Type: Contra
Formation: Duple-Improper
A1 -----------
(8) Neighbor Balance Right, pull by, pull by Ptr across set
(8) Neighbor swing
A2 -----------
(8) Long lines, forward and back
(8) Women allemande Right 1-1/2
B1 -----------
(16) Partner balance and swing
B2 -----------
(8) Women's Chain across
(4) Right to Your Partner, balance Right
(4) pull by Right with Ptr, and left with Neighbor on to the next
Duple Improper version:
A Piece O' Cake by Carol Kopp
On Jul 11, 2015, at 11:55 AM, Ron Blechner via Callers wrote:
> Instead of an odd progression, I'd just start the dance at the A2 and make it duple improper.
>
> N B+S (4,12)
> Hey (GL, PR, LL, NR) (16)
> Gents cross L (2)
> PS (14)
> Circle L 3/4 (8, forgiving)
> Bal Ring, Cali Twirl (4,4)
>
> It's a nice simple Hey dance with two swings. Why complicate it with unnecessary CCW Becket progression in the A1 when you can do a duple Imp with a B2 progression?
>
> Buy I suspect this one has to have been written already, no?
>
> Ron Blechner
>
> On Jul 11, 2015 2:32 PM, "Don Veino via Callers" <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
> Also it appears to progress backwards as noted - shouldn't it be Becket-CCW/Right instead?
>
> -Don
>
> On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 2:04 PM, James Saxe via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
> Keith,
>
> I don't have a title or author for the dance you ask about,
> but I hae a question. Are you sure you mean
>
> > B1 Hey for 4, M start R
>
> ? When men start a hey after a swing, I think it's much
> more common for them to start by left shoulders than by
> right.
>
> --Jim
>
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Thanks for pointing that out Martha. I never would have published/
taken credit for The Host had I realized they were the same.
T
On Jul 11, 2015, at 2:55 PM, Ron Blechner via Callers wrote:
> Instead of an odd progression, I'd just start the dance at the A2
> and make it duple improper.
>
> N B+S (4,12)
> Hey (GL, PR, LL, NR) (16)
> Gents cross L (2)
> PS (14)
> Circle L 3/4 (8, forgiving)
> Bal Ring, Cali Twirl (4,4)
>
> It's a nice simple Hey dance with two swings. Why complicate it
> with unnecessary CCW Becket progression in the A1 when you can do a
> duple Imp with a B2 progression?
>
> Buy I suspect this one has to have been written already, no?
>
> Ron Blechner
>
> On Jul 11, 2015 2:32 PM, "Don Veino via Callers"
> <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
> Also it appears to progress backwards as noted - shouldn't it be
> Becket-CCW/Right instead?
>
> -Don
>
> On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 2:04 PM, James Saxe via Callers
> <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
> Keith,
>
> I don't have a title or author for the dance you ask about,
> but I hae a question. Are you sure you mean
>
> > B1 Hey for 4, M start R
>
> ? When men start a hey after a swing, I think it's much
> more common for them to start by left shoulders than by
> right.
>
> --Jim
>
>
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