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Re: [Callers] [trad-dance-callers] Novelty & Gimmick Contras

by Vicki Morrison via Callers

Hello all! I've been meaning to chime in. Don't think anyone has mentioned this one. I would consider Beneficial Tradition by Dan Pearl has having an unusual sequence. A friend used the exact same words, gimmicky, when I called it. That term hadn't occurred to me until he mentioned it. Anyway, here it is and a youtube link: Becket, double progression A1 Ladies alle L 1.0 to form a wavy line; Bal wave, swing PA2 Circle L 3/4, N swingB1 Ladies chain, LLFBB2 straight across with opposite sex, pull by left, face in (4)on slight right diagonal, with same sex, pull by right, face in (4)straight across, with opposite sex pull by left, face in (4)on slight right diagonal with same sex, pull by right, face in (4) The author advises: This one needs strong, clear four-beat phrases in B2. More driving or exuberant and not mysterious or in a minor key. I think Brian Hamshar did an excellent job teaching this dance. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvB0RCB-QIw From: Bob Green via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> To: "trad-dance-callers(a)yahoogroups.com" <trad-dance-callers(a)yahoogroups.com> Cc: Caller's discussion list <callers(a)sharedweight.net> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2016 12:48 PM Subject: Re: [Callers] [trad-dance-callers] Novelty & Gimmick Contras Here are a few.... Unusual Formations: Missionary Men ("proper Becket") by Jim Hemphill - http://dancevideos.childgrove.org/contra/contra-modern/443-mission-men Maple & Cedar (partners at the corners) by Bob Green - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQBj-zyKjnA Wes Side Story (Becket mixer) by Bob Green - http://dancevideos.childgrove.org/contra/contra-modern/445-wes-side-story Unusual moves: Shaker Buddha (double back dip) by Norm Stewart & Bob Green - http://dancevideos.childgrove.org/contra/contra-modern/444-shaker-buddha Seesaw Surfer (courtesy fling) by Jim Hwnphill - http://dancevideos.childgrove.org/contra/contra-modern/206-seesaw-surfer Enjoy! Bob Green On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 1:13 PM, Rich Sbardella richsbardella(a)gmail.com [trad-dance-callers] <trad-dance-callers(a)yahoogroups.com> wrote: Here I am with another question. I learn so much from these threads. What are some easy, but good, novelty, or gimmick contras. To elaborate, I mean contras that have unusual moves, or contras that use basic moves in unusual ways. Maybe Ovals, Wholeset Promenades, Old-Timey square dance moves?Two of my favorites are "Hot Buttered Rolls" and "Roll Over Johannes" Rich SbardellaStafford, CT __._,_.___ Posted by: Rich Sbardella <richsbardella(a)gmail.com> | Reply via web post | • | Reply to sender | • | Reply to group | • | Start a New Topic | • | Messages in this topic (1) | Save time and get your email on the go with the Yahoo Mail App Get the beautifully designed, lighting fast, and easy-to-use, Yahoo Mail app today. Now you can access all your inboxes (Gmail, Outlook, AOL and more) in one place. Never delete an email again with 1000GB of free cloud storage. The Traditional Dance Callers List: Subscribe by sending a blank e-mail message (no subject, no message) to: trad-dance-callers-subscribe(a)yahoogroups.com Visit Your Group - New Members 1 • Privacy • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use . __,_._,___ _______________________________________________ Callers mailing list Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net

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Re: [Callers] [trad-dance-callers] Novelty & Gimmick Contras

by Bob Green via Callers

Here are a few.... Unusual Formations: *Missionary Men *("proper Becket") by Jim Hemphill - http://dancevideos.childgrove.org/contra/contra-modern/443-mission-men *Maple & Cedar *(partners at the corners) by Bob Green - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQBj-zyKjnA *Wes Side Story *(Becket mixer) by Bob Green - http://dancevideos.childgrove.org/contra/contra-modern/445-wes-side-story Unusual moves: *Shaker Buddha *(double back dip) by Norm Stewart & Bob Green - http://dancevideos.childgrove.org/contra/contra-modern/444-shaker-buddha *Seesaw Surfer *(courtesy fling) by Jim Hwnphill - http://dancevideos.childgrove.org/contra/contra-modern/206-seesaw-surfer Enjoy! Bob Green On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 1:13 PM, Rich Sbardella richsbardella(a)gmail.com [trad-dance-callers] <trad-dance-callers(a)yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > Here I am with another question. I learn so much from these threads. > > What are some easy, but good, novelty, or gimmick contras. To elaborate, > I mean contras that have unusual moves, or contras that use basic moves in > unusual ways. > > Maybe Ovals, Wholeset Promenades, Old-Timey square dance moves? > Two of my favorites are "Hot Buttered Rolls" and "Roll Over Johannes" > > Rich Sbardella > Stafford, CT > > __._,_.___ > ------------------------------ > Posted by: Rich Sbardella <richsbardella(a)gmail.com> > ------------------------------ > Reply via web post > <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/trad-dance-callers/conversations/messag…> > • Reply to sender > <richsbardella(a)gmail.com?subject=Re%3A%20Novelty%20%26%20Gimmick%20Contras> > • Reply to group > <trad-dance-callers(a)yahoogroups.com?subject=Re%3A%20Novelty%20%26%20Gimmick%20Contras> > • Start a New Topic > <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/trad-dance-callers/conversations/newtop…> > • Messages in this topic > <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/trad-dance-callers/conversations/topics…> > (1) > ------------------------------ > Save time and get your email on the go with the Yahoo Mail App > <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=E-mail&c=Groups_Megaphone_Feb16&af_sub1…> > Get the beautifully designed, lighting fast, and easy-to-use, Yahoo Mail > app today. Now you can access all your inboxes (Gmail, Outlook, AOL and > more) in one place. Never delete an email again with 1000GB of free cloud > storage. > ------------------------------ > The Traditional Dance Callers List: Subscribe by sending a blank e-mail > message (no subject, no message) to: > trad-dance-callers-subscribe(a)yahoogroups.com > Visit Your Group > <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/trad-dance-callers/info;_ylc=X3oDMTJmN3…> > > - New Members > <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/trad-dance-callers/members/all;_ylc=X3o…> > 1 > > [image: Yahoo! Groups] > <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo;_ylc=X3oDMTJlcWU1NmRnBF9TAzk3NDc2NTkwBGdycElkA…> > • Privacy <https://info.yahoo.com/privacy/us/yahoo/groups/details.html> • > Unsubscribe > <trad-dance-callers-unsubscribe(a)yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> • Terms > of Use <https://info.yahoo.com/legal/us/yahoo/utos/terms/> > > . > > __,_._,___ >

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Re: [Callers] Novelty & Gimmick Contras

by Linda Leslie via Callers

Very Correct, Bree, about not turning around! The 3/4 starts back to back, but ends in the usual way in the wave; this made me incorrectly think there was a turnaround. Thanks for catching that mistake of mine! And describing that ones always face down, and twos always face up also helps a lot. Linda On Mar 18, 2016, at 10:16 AM, Bree Kalb <bree(a)mindspring.com> wrote: > Hi Linda, > > Yes, I forgot to note that it is double progression. And you are right, the solo part of the dosido is actually 3/4. But I'm not sure what you mean by '...and must turn around." The 1s are facing down, the 2s facing up during all of A1. Did I misunderstand your question? > Regards, > > Bree > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Linda Leslie > Sent: Mar 17, 2016 1:40 PM > To: Bree Kalb > Cc: "callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net" > Subject: Re: [Callers] Novelty & Gimmick Contras > > Hi, Bree! > That is a very novel way to get into a short wave Balance! and not al tall gimmicky, in my view. I watched the video…thanks for including the link. I have two questions for you: > It seems the dance is double progression, correct? > For the single do si do: the dancers stay back to back with their Neighbors to start, and actually do a 3/4 dosido into the wave, and must turn around (neighbor now in right hand), right? This means that each dancer is facing their original direction of travel once in the wave. The link really helped with this move; when I read the dance, in my head I was picturing the dancers moving very differently. > > Thanks for the dance! > warmly, Linda > > On Mar 17, 2016, at 1:00 PM, Bree Kalb via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > >> I wrote a dance that has a move I've not seen in a dance before. Although I'd rather not call it a gimmick. The 'reviews' so far have been good. There’s a video of Jack Mitchell calling the dance here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEp2vlYq1Nc&feature=youtu.be >> >> This is My Brain on Buddha Imp >> >> >> >> A1 Partners DoSiSo as a couple just ½ way until back-to-back with these Neighbors. >> >> Drop hands with your Ptr, and complete the DosiDo solo with the N you have your back to, >> >> until the women can take L hands, Rt to N, in a wavy line of 4. >> >> Balance the wave, walk forward to next Ns in a new wave of 4. >> >> >> >> A2 Balance this wave; with this new N, Swg. >> >> >> >> B1 Face across, Mad Robin (Gents sliding in front to the right to start) >> >> Men keep moving to cross the set to your Ptr; Swg. >> >> >> >> B2 Circle L ¾; Balance the Ring, Calif Twirl >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> A dancer suggested naming the move in A1 “Double Dose.” I like it, but another caller, Jack Mitchell, discouraged me from making up a new name when just explaining the move will do. I’m curious what others think. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Callers mailing list >> Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net >> http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net > > > Bree Kalb, LCSW > 301 W. Weaver St. > Carrboro, NC 27510 > 919-932-6262 ext 216 > http://www.thewellnessalliance.com/BreeKalb.html > https://www.facebook.com/carrborokorumindfulness > > Regarding the Use of Email -- Please Note: Although I use a firewall and my computer is password protected, my emails are not encrypted. Therefore, I cannot guarantee confidentiality of email communication. If you choose to communicate confidential information with me via email, I will assume that you have made an informed decision and I will view it as your agreement to take the risk that email may be intercepted. Please be aware that email is never an appropriate vehicle for emergency communication. If you are canceling an appointment less than 48 hours in advance, please also leave me a voice mail message at my office.

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Re: [Callers] Novelty & Gimmick Contras

by Bree Kalb via Callers

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Re: [Callers] Novelty & Gimmick Contras

by Martha Wild via Callers

> This is one I wrote that I’ve called a couple of times and people liked it. It is unequal in that the ones swing, but you can easily alternate between ones and twos if the dancers are more experienced. If you look at the link it will make the move clear, in case my explanation doesn’t quite get the idea across. > San Diego Sleigh Ride <> Martha Wild Duple improper August 1, 2014 A1 Balance and swing your neighbor A2 Down the set four in line, turn as couples Up the set, bend the line, and all face up taking inside hands with partners (facing up two by two) B1 Ones (below) arch and over, twos back up under the ones arch (4) Twos arch and over, ones back up (4) Ones arch and over, twos back up (4) Twos arch and over, ones back up (4) B2 Twos face ones at end, circle left once around Ones swing and face down (can alternate with twos swing and face up with more experienced dancers) This dance was written after I saw a Youtube video of Nantucket Sleigh Ride <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVwNiszdVNg> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVwNiszdVNg <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVwNiszdVNg> (by Kirsten Koths), which has this arch and under figure. The people doing it looked like they were having a very good time, but the rest of the dance had no partner swing. I have modified this to include one, or at best an alternating partner swing. Feedback was positive. > On Mar 17, 2016, at 11:41 AM, Rich Sbardella via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > > Hello Tavi, > > You are correct, gimmick was a bad choice of words. Gimmick is a term used in MWSD publications to describe surprise or unusual choreography. > > The type of dances I am looking for are dances that have an unusual element, whether it be a different move like rip 'n snort, an unusual application as in Bree's "couple to solo" Dosido, or an unusual progression. These dances are easy enough for a floor with many beginners but novel (?) enough for most dancers to enjoy. > > Rich > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 1:46 PM, tavi merrill via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net <mailto:callers@lists.sharedweight.net>> wrote: > I take issue with the term "gimmick." Using familiar moves in new ways is IMO called "good choreography." If one defines using existing moves in novel ways as "gimmick," basically every use of petronella turns and waves after "Petronella" and "Rory O'Moore" is a gimmick. > > Originally had a long list of dances, but then i saw "easy" in Rich's original ask, so pared down: > > "Anthem to a Pet Ferret" by Sargon de Jesus may be of interest > > "A Sure Thing" by Chris Page is challenging to teach but not actually challenging to dance > > also do si do and swing the one behind offers a simple but fun twist. U can find it in Tom Hinds' "Python Reel" and Rick Mohr's "Leave the Wine" > > > _______________________________________________ > Callers mailing list > Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net <mailto:Callers@lists.sharedweight.net> > http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net <http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net> > > > _______________________________________________ > Callers mailing list > Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net > http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net

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Re: [Callers] Novelty & Gimmick Contras

by Rich Sbardella via Callers

Hello Tavi, You are correct, gimmick was a bad choice of words. Gimmick is a term used in MWSD publications to describe surprise or unusual choreography. The type of dances I am looking for are dances that have an unusual element, whether it be a different move like rip 'n snort, an unusual application as in Bree's "couple to solo" Dosido, or an unusual progression. These dances are easy enough for a floor with many beginners but novel (?) enough for most dancers to enjoy. Rich On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 1:46 PM, tavi merrill via Callers < callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > I take issue with the term "gimmick." Using familiar moves in new ways is > IMO called "good choreography." If one defines using existing moves in > novel ways as "gimmick," basically every use of petronella turns and waves > after "Petronella" and "Rory O'Moore" is a gimmick. > > Originally had a long list of dances, but then i saw "easy" in Rich's > original ask, so pared down: > > "Anthem to a Pet Ferret" by Sargon de Jesus may be of interest > > "A Sure Thing" by Chris Page is challenging to teach but not actually > challenging to dance > > also do si do and swing the one behind offers a simple but fun twist. U > can find it in Tom Hinds' "Python Reel" and Rick Mohr's "Leave the Wine" > > > _______________________________________________ > Callers mailing list > Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net > http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net > >

8 years, 9 months

Re: [Callers] Novelty & Gimmick Contras

by Bill Olson via Callers

tavi said: also do si do and swing the one behind offers a simple but fun twist. U can find it in Tom Hinds' "Python Reel" and Rick Mohr's "Leave the Wine" I agree and... actually this comes up (originally I believe) in "another nice combination" also by Tom.. bill Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2016 10:46:24 -0700 To: callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net; callers-request(a)lists.sharedweight.net Subject: Re: [Callers] Novelty & Gimmick Contras From: callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net I take issue with the term "gimmick." Using familiar moves in new ways is IMO called "good choreography." If one defines using existing moves in novel ways as "gimmick," basically every use of petronella turns and waves after "Petronella" and "Rory O'Moore" is a gimmick. Originally had a long list of dances, but then i saw "easy" in Rich's original ask, so pared down: "Anthem to a Pet Ferret" by Sargon de Jesus may be of interest "A Sure Thing" by Chris Page is challenging to teach but not actually challenging to dance also do si do and swing the one behind offers a simple but fun twist. U can find it in Tom Hinds' "Python Reel" and Rick Mohr's "Leave the Wine" _______________________________________________ Callers mailing list Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net

8 years, 9 months

Re: [Callers] Novelty & Gimmick Contras

by tavi merrill via Callers

I take issue with the term "gimmick." Using familiar moves in new ways is IMO called "good choreography." If one defines using existing moves in novel ways as "gimmick," basically every use of petronella turns and waves after "Petronella" and "Rory O'Moore" is a gimmick. Originally had a long list of dances, but then i saw "easy" in Rich's original ask, so pared down: "Anthem to a Pet Ferret" by Sargon de Jesus may be of interest "A Sure Thing" by Chris Page is challenging to teach but not actually challenging to dance also do si do and swing the one behind offers a simple but fun twist. U can find it in Tom Hinds' "Python Reel" and Rick Mohr's "Leave the Wine"

8 years, 9 months

Re: [Callers] Novelty & Gimmick Contras

by Linda Leslie via Callers

Hi, Bree! That is a very novel way to get into a short wave Balance! and not al tall gimmicky, in my view. I watched the video…thanks for including the link. I have two questions for you: It seems the dance is double progression, correct? For the single do si do: the dancers stay back to back with their Neighbors to start, and actually do a 3/4 dosido into the wave, and must turn around (neighbor now in right hand), right? This means that each dancer is facing their original direction of travel once in the wave. The link really helped with this move; when I read the dance, in my head I was picturing the dancers moving very differently. Thanks for the dance! warmly, Linda On Mar 17, 2016, at 1:00 PM, Bree Kalb via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > I wrote a dance that has a move I've not seen in a dance before. Although I'd rather not call it a gimmick. The 'reviews' so far have been good. There’s a video of Jack Mitchell calling the dance here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEp2vlYq1Nc&feature=youtu.be > > This is My Brain on Buddha Imp > > > > A1 Partners DoSiSo as a couple just ½ way until back-to-back with these Neighbors. > > Drop hands with your Ptr, and complete the DosiDo solo with the N you have your back to, > > until the women can take L hands, Rt to N, in a wavy line of 4. > > Balance the wave, walk forward to next Ns in a new wave of 4. > > > > A2 Balance this wave; with this new N, Swg. > > > > B1 Face across, Mad Robin (Gents sliding in front to the right to start) > > Men keep moving to cross the set to your Ptr; Swg. > > > > B2 Circle L ¾; Balance the Ring, Calif Twirl > > > > > > > > A dancer suggested naming the move in A1 “Double Dose.” I like it, but another caller, Jack Mitchell, discouraged me from making up a new name when just explaining the move will do. I’m curious what others think. > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Callers mailing list > Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net > http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net

8 years, 9 months

Re: [Callers] Multiple Swings

by tavi merrill via Callers

Didn't see these mentioned yet (pardon if i missed them) Ted and Lynn - Rick Mohr Naked in California - Nils Fredland Belgian Chocolate - Sargon de Jesus All Swings Considered - Tom Hinds

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