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by Laur via Callers

I am not comfortable with the timing in Boomerang. Am I off or .. is there something I'm missing??? I've tried (with my imaginary friends) several theories but - always the timing isn't quite there. LaurieWest MI ~ When I dance, I cannot judge, I cannot hate, I cannot separate myself from life. I can only be joyful and whole, that is why I dance. ~Hans Bos~ ~

8 years, 9 months

Re: [Callers] Favorite Triplet ?

by Michael Barraclough via Callers

Mine is Bob's Triplet #1 (Bob Dalsemer, 1988) http://bobdalsemer.com/Bob_Dalsemers_Web_Pages/Other_Dances.html A1: First couple join both hands, chassé down center (4) , heel, toe, heel toe with man's left foot, ladies right (4), chassé back up (4) and cast off unassisted into second place, second couple moving up A2: First couple turn contra corners B1: All balance and swing partners, end swing facing up B2: All chassé four steps, men to their right, ladies to their left, men passing behind partners (4), turn to face partner, move towards each other, joining hands in a circle of 6 (4), circle left halfway (8) I modify the B2 1-4 into balance together, away and swap with partner (top couple, California twirl, others rollaway) -- Michael Barraclough michael(a)michaelbarraclough.com www.michaelbarraclough.com

8 years, 9 months

Re: [Callers] Favorite Triplet?

by Claire Takemori via Callers

Thank you all for the great triplets! I did call Dave’s Triplet #5 with a hey for 6 that they loved, but I was guest calling and so we had 3 triplets during my slot, but after the break it was down to 6-8 dancers and we were looking for choreography for small groups. I appreciate your time and very helpful explanations of the choreography! Claire Takemori (Bay Area, CA) On Mar 30, 2016, at 1:01 PM, via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: Send Callers mailing list submissions to callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to callers-request(a)lists.sharedweight.net You can reach the person managing the list at callers-owner(a)lists.sharedweight.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Callers digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Favorite Triplet ? (Valerie Cohen via Callers) 2. Re: Favorite Triplet ? (Michael Barraclough via Callers) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 10:50:31 -0700 From: Valerie Cohen via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> To: callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net, callers-request(a)lists.sharedweight.net Subject: Re: [Callers] Favorite Triplet ? Message-ID: <CADtea0CxofU+jPuC3zjer+W6uBf83nSr5G34njVybKhUOb04cA(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hi, Claire, One triplet I have enjoyed is Rick Mohr's Triplet #2 (I've copied his notes below). once dancers get the feel, the momentum of the 1's leading into the circle at the beginning of A2 is very satisfying, as is the wave into the hey. I had it nearly fall apart one time when the group of people left were all beginners, but they were having a good time and laughed throughout - either caught up on the circle left or straightened out the set at the partner swing at the end, so it worked well enough. I used to coordinate an open band/open caller dance that got tons of musicians but was often short on dancers, so it was handy to have interesting dances that worked for very short sets. I also once improvised Rory O'more as a triplet, but the memory is hazy now. I think I just had the #1 couple swing to the bottom of the set at the end. -Valerie Cohen, Seattle Rick's Triplet #2 By Rick Mohr; January 28, 2002 Triplet, 1's Improper Level: Intermediate/Advanced A1: 1's cross *(passing right shoulders)*, go outside below 2's who move up (6) 1's cross *(passing right shoulders)*, turn right, go outside around two people *(ending proper)* (10) A2: Circle left 6 hands round (12) Allemande right with partner 3/4 (4) *(Join left hands with neighbor to form a wave of six)* B1: Balance the wave (4) Half hey for 6 *(neighbors pass left shoulders to start)* (12) B2: Balance and swing partner (16) The figures of this dance fit the music phrases exactly, so it can be quite satisfying if dancers are on the ball but somewhat unforgiving if they get confused. The active couple moves continuously in A1. First they cross around the 2's to the middle position, and then without stopping they cross again and both turn right?the man loops around the bottom couple while the woman loops around the top couple. As the active dancers return to the middle position (proper) all join hands and match their motion smoothly into a circle left. The circle left in A2 takes 12 steps, so be aware to call the allemande right in time for its four steps to end the phrase in time to balance the wave at the start of B1. Then 12 weaving hey steps invert the set in time for the partner balance and swing at the start of B2. In terms of the original numbering, once through the dance leaves the couples in a 3, 1, 2 sequence. > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2016 11:22:05 -0400 > From: Bob Isaacs via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> > To: Claire Takemori <cht(a)mac.com>, Shared Weight > <callers(a)sharedweight.net> > Subject: Re: [Callers] Favorite Triplet ? > Message-ID: <SNT151-W13A3370BE1CAB812BBB30BAA840(a)phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > > > > Hi Claire: > If you want a triplet with contra corners and a hey for 6 (and very much > for experienced dancers) then try: > Cinnamon CrullerTriplet, properBI / 10-23-05 > A1. 1s cast to bottom, 1s up the center and 1/2 figure 8 below (2s move > up)A2. 1s turn contra cornersB1. All partner allemande R 3/4, 1/2 hey for > 6B2. Partner balance, swing - face up progressed (3-1-2) > Bob > >> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2016 22:51:38 -0700 >> To: callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net >> Subject: [Callers] Favorite Triplet ? >> From: callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net >> >> Hi everyone. I?m enjoying all the great information that is shared on > this list. Thank you! >> >> I?m wondering if you have a favorite Triplet that would work for a very > small but experienced contra dance with just 6 dancers left after the > break? Ideally

8 years, 9 months

Re: [Callers] Favorite Triplet ?

by Valerie Cohen via Callers

Hi, Claire, One triplet I have enjoyed is Rick Mohr's Triplet #2 (I've copied his notes below). once dancers get the feel, the momentum of the 1's leading into the circle at the beginning of A2 is very satisfying, as is the wave into the hey. I had it nearly fall apart one time when the group of people left were all beginners, but they were having a good time and laughed throughout - either caught up on the circle left or straightened out the set at the partner swing at the end, so it worked well enough. I used to coordinate an open band/open caller dance that got tons of musicians but was often short on dancers, so it was handy to have interesting dances that worked for very short sets. I also once improvised Rory O'more as a triplet, but the memory is hazy now. I think I just had the #1 couple swing to the bottom of the set at the end. -Valerie Cohen, Seattle Rick's Triplet #2 By Rick Mohr; January 28, 2002 Triplet, 1's Improper Level: Intermediate/Advanced A1: 1's cross *(passing right shoulders)*, go outside below 2's who move up (6) 1's cross *(passing right shoulders)*, turn right, go outside around two people *(ending proper)* (10) A2: Circle left 6 hands round (12) Allemande right with partner 3/4 (4) *(Join left hands with neighbor to form a wave of six)* B1: Balance the wave (4) Half hey for 6 *(neighbors pass left shoulders to start)* (12) B2: Balance and swing partner (16) The figures of this dance fit the music phrases exactly, so it can be quite satisfying if dancers are on the ball but somewhat unforgiving if they get confused. The active couple moves continuously in A1. First they cross around the 2's to the middle position, and then without stopping they cross again and both turn right—the man loops around the bottom couple while the woman loops around the top couple. As the active dancers return to the middle position (proper) all join hands and match their motion smoothly into a circle left. The circle left in A2 takes 12 steps, so be aware to call the allemande right in time for its four steps to end the phrase in time to balance the wave at the start of B1. Then 12 weaving hey steps invert the set in time for the partner balance and swing at the start of B2. In terms of the original numbering, once through the dance leaves the couples in a 3, 1, 2 sequence. > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2016 11:22:05 -0400 > From: Bob Isaacs via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> > To: Claire Takemori <cht(a)mac.com>, Shared Weight > <callers(a)sharedweight.net> > Subject: Re: [Callers] Favorite Triplet ? > Message-ID: <SNT151-W13A3370BE1CAB812BBB30BAA840(a)phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > > > > Hi Claire: > If you want a triplet with contra corners and a hey for 6 (and very much > for experienced dancers) then try: > Cinnamon CrullerTriplet, properBI / 10-23-05 > A1. 1s cast to bottom, 1s up the center and 1/2 figure 8 below (2s move > up)A2. 1s turn contra cornersB1. All partner allemande R 3/4, 1/2 hey for > 6B2. Partner balance, swing - face up progressed (3-1-2) > Bob > > > Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2016 22:51:38 -0700 > > To: callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net > > Subject: [Callers] Favorite Triplet ? > > From: callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net > > > > Hi everyone. I?m enjoying all the great information that is shared on > this list. Thank you! > > > > I?m wondering if you have a favorite Triplet that would work for a very > small but experienced contra dance with just 6 dancers left after the > break? Ideally

8 years, 9 months

[Callers] New Dance: For He's A Jolly Good Fellow

by Michael Barraclough via Callers

Thank you for the helpful comments when I shared this dance a few weeks ago. I called the dance as written on 3/18/2016 at the Memorial Dance for Charlie Fellows. It went ok but, as forecast, it was hard work to ensure that the B2/A1 transition went smoothly. I have therefore changed the dance slightly which I hope makes it a better dance. The original B1and B2 have been swapped and the two 'trades' have been changed for a 'turn single' and a 'California Twirl'. The final dance is as follows: FOR HE'S A JOLLY GOOD FELLOW Michael Barraclough (2016) Longways improper A1 Balance the ring, Petronella, Balance the ring, Turn Single A2 Give & take (men take, neighbor swing) B1 Give & take (men take, partner swing) B2 Balance the ring, Petronella, Balance the ring, California Twirl This keeps most of the symmetry/simplicity from the original but improves the B2/A1 transition. Dancers eemed to like the double Give & Take. The full dance is available at http://www.michaelbarraclough.com/24-dances-i-have-written/1090-for-he-s-a-… -- Michael Barraclough michael(a)michaelbarraclough.com www.michaelbarraclough.com

8 years, 9 months

Re: [Callers] New dance?

by Michael Fuerst via Callers

One could name a dance about whatever one wants However, here's one from the book Midwest Folklore published by the Urbana Country Dancers in 1995 https://store.cdss.org/product/178-midwest-folklore-and-other-dances Colonel North's Contra Insurgencyby Erna-Lynne Bogue A1 N's dsdStart grand R&L around the major set: N right, nest neighbor left, right to a third, start left allemande with a fourth A2 ... finish the allemande and lefts and rights to original neighborSwing original neighbor B1 1's half figure 8 above, 1's start turning contra corners B2 1's finish turning contra corners, 1's swing end facing down Erna-Lynne wrote the first version of this dance during some well publicized Congressional hearings in the 1980's, and found it gain when Col North was again inthe news in 1991.Col North ran unsuccessfully for the Senate in 1994Oliver North - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Michael Fuerst 802 N Broadway Urbana IL 61801 217 239 5844Links to photos of many of my drawings and paintings are at www.ArtComesFuerst.com On Monday, March 28, 2016 9:41 AM, Ron Blechner via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: Let me rephrase:Is there a precedent for naming a dance after a living politician?On Mar 28, 2016 10:29 AM, "Don Veino" <sharedweight_net(a)veino.com> wrote: Jefferson and Liberty. On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 10:21 AM, Ron Blechner via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: I have another question to pose:Is there precedent for naming a dance after a politician? While I may have voted for Bernie, I'm careful to not inject my political view into my calling / choreography. (Though, on the other hand, if Bernie doesn't win the nomination, in 5 years dancers will just hear "feel the burn".)In Dance, Ron BlechnerOn Mar 27, 2016 8:24 AM, "Pat Hoekje via Callers" <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: I am trying to visualize the circle R to star R with new neighbor from the women's place and I have to turn around (or drop from the circle right a bit early to star right with the next neighbor. What am I not seeing correctly or is that true? Thanks,Pat On Sunday, March 27, 2016 4:22 AM, Amy Wimmer via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: Tom and Erik are quite right about that swing. It lasts FOREVER, which is a little too long. I took Michael's suggestion and started at A2. I also took Michael's suggestion of turning the allemande into a two-eyed turn (an "eye-lemande" as my friend Matthew coined). Thank you for the suggestions for changing that bit. Two callers danced it tonight. One (my husband, Tom) thought the flow was good, but the swing was definitely too long. The other caller said she really liked that the mad robin wasn't with your partner, which she said tends to make a dance seem very partner-only-centric, ignoring the neighbors. She agreed with me that I need to figure out a better way to teach it. One of the band members noticed the long swing and said it needs some other element to break it up. This particular dance community has lots of beginners and folks who just don't dance very well. It took them a while to get the circle right-to star right transition. Tom thought that part was simple. He noticed that when one is out at the ends one should not cross over, but should stand "proper." I very much appreciate your input, guys. Next time I'll try some more of your ideas. -Amy > On Mar 26, 2016, at 5:50 PM, Tom Hinds <twhinds(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > > Nice dance Amy. I really like the sequence of moves. > I'm trying to imagine this in my head and assume that the allemande right is once around which takes less than 8 beats to do. > > Hope you don't mind suggesting a change. I would change the allemande right to once and a half. That would give us: > > B2 neighbor allemande right 1 1/2 > ladies ric. men pass left > > T > _______________________________________________ Callers mailing list Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net _______________________________________________ Callers mailing list Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net _______________________________________________ Callers mailing list Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net _______________________________________________ Callers mailing list Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net

8 years, 9 months

[Callers] Young Adult Rose

by Kalia Kliban via Callers

I called Young Adult Rose last night and experienced a near-complete dancer revolt about the shadow allemande. The dance is written with a circle left 3/4, pass P by R along the line then allemande shadow R 1x, before coming back to P for a balance and swing. The dancers all _really_ wanted to do the allemande by the left. I tried calling it a few times with the R hand, then gave up and called it L and they were all much happier. Anyone else experienced this? Kalia

8 years, 9 months

Re: [Callers] New dance?

by Ric Goldman - Letsdance via Callers

FWIW, I have such a dance, although the original conceit was bidding in bridge. The dance is called “One No-Trump”. Thanx, Ric Goldman From: Callers [mailto:callers-bounces@lists.sharedweight.net] On Behalf Of Ron Blechner via Callers Sent: Monday, March 28, 2016 7:21 AM To: Pat Hoekje <tccaller(a)yahoo.com> Cc: Caller's discussion list <callers(a)sharedweight.net> Subject: Re: [Callers] New dance? I have another question to pose: Is there precedent for naming a dance after a politician? While I may have voted for Bernie, I'm careful to not inject my political view into my calling / choreography. (Though, on the other hand, if Bernie doesn't win the nomination, in 5 years dancers will just hear "feel the burn".) In Dance, Ron Blechner On Mar 27, 2016 8:24 AM, "Pat Hoekje via Callers" <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net <mailto:callers@lists.sharedweight.net> > wrote: I am trying to visualize the circle R to star R with new neighbor from the women's place and I have to turn around (or drop from the circle right a bit early to star right with the next neighbor. What am I not seeing correctly or is that true? Thanks, Pat On Sunday, March 27, 2016 4:22 AM, Amy Wimmer via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net <mailto:callers@lists.sharedweight.net> > wrote: Tom and Erik are quite right about that swing. It lasts FOREVER, which is a little too long. I took Michael's suggestion and started at A2. I also took Michael's suggestion of turning the allemande into a two-eyed turn (an "eye-lemande" as my friend Matthew coined). Thank you for the suggestions for changing that bit. Two callers danced it tonight. One (my husband, Tom) thought the flow was good, but the swing was definitely too long. The other caller said she really liked that the mad robin wasn't with your partner, which she said tends to make a dance seem very partner-only-centric, ignoring the neighbors. She agreed with me that I need to figure out a better way to teach it. One of the band members noticed the long swing and said it needs some other element to break it up. This particular dance community has lots of beginners and folks who just don't dance very well. It took them a while to get the circle right-to star right transition. Tom thought that part was simple. He noticed that when one is out at the ends one should not cross over, but should stand "proper." I very much appreciate your input, guys. Next time I'll try some more of your ideas. -Amy > On Mar 26, 2016, at 5:50 PM, Tom Hinds <twhinds(a)earthlink.net <mailto:twhinds@earthlink.net> > wrote: > > Nice dance Amy. I really like the sequence of moves. > I'm trying to imagine this in my head and assume that the allemande right is once around which takes less than 8 beats to do. > > Hope you don't mind suggesting a change. I would change the allemande right to once and a half. That would give us: > > B2 neighbor allemande right 1 1/2 > ladies ric. men pass left > > T > _______________________________________________ Callers mailing list Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net <mailto:Callers@lists.sharedweight.net> http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net _______________________________________________ Callers mailing list Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net <mailto:Callers@lists.sharedweight.net> http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net

8 years, 9 months

Re: [Callers] New dance?

by Darwin Gregory via Callers

There is some precedent for political dances .... Jefferson & Liberty along with its derivatives are still danced in some places. I'm sure there must be others, but as an aspiring caller I don't know of any recent examples. On Mar 28, 2016 10:21 AM, "Ron Blechner via Callers" < callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > I have another question to pose: > > Is there precedent for naming a dance after a politician? > > While I may have voted for Bernie, I'm careful to not inject my political > view into my calling / choreography. (Though, on the other hand, if Bernie > doesn't win the nomination, in 5 years dancers will just hear "feel the > burn".) > > In Dance, > Ron Blechner > On Mar 27, 2016 8:24 AM, "Pat Hoekje via Callers" < > callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > >> I am trying to visualize the circle R to star R with new neighbor from >> the women's place and I have to turn around (or drop from the circle right >> a bit early to star right with the next neighbor. What am I not seeing >> correctly or is that true? >> >> Thanks, >> Pat >> >> >> On Sunday, March 27, 2016 4:22 AM, Amy Wimmer via Callers < >> callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: >> >> >> Tom and Erik are quite right about that swing. It lasts FOREVER, which >> is a little too long. I took Michael's suggestion and started at A2. >> I also took Michael's suggestion of turning the allemande into a >> two-eyed turn (an "eye-lemande" as my friend Matthew coined). Thank >> you for the suggestions for changing that bit. >> >> Two callers danced it tonight. One (my husband, Tom) thought the flow >> was good, but the swing was definitely too long. The other caller said >> she really liked that the mad robin wasn't with your partner, which >> she said tends to make a dance seem very partner-only-centric, >> ignoring the neighbors. She agreed with me that I need to figure out a >> better way to teach it. One of the band members noticed the long swing >> and said it needs some other element to break it up. >> >> This particular dance community has lots of beginners and folks who >> just don't dance very well. It took them a while to get the circle >> right-to star right transition. Tom thought that part was simple. He >> noticed that when one is out at the ends one should not cross over, >> but should stand "proper." >> >> I very much appreciate your input, guys. Next time I'll try some more >> of your ideas. >> >> -Amy >> >> > On Mar 26, 2016, at 5:50 PM, Tom Hinds <twhinds(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >> > >> > Nice dance Amy. I really like the sequence of moves. >> > I'm trying to imagine this in my head and assume that the allemande >> right is once around which takes less than 8 beats to do. >> > >> > Hope you don't mind suggesting a change. I would change the allemande >> right to once and a half. That would give us: >> > >> > B2 neighbor allemande right 1 1/2 >> > ladies ric. men pass left >> > >> > T >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> Callers mailing list >> Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net >> http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Callers mailing list >> Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net >> http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Callers mailing list > Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net > http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net > >

8 years, 9 months

Re: [Callers] New dance?

by Ron Blechner via Callers

Let me rephrase: Is there a precedent for naming a dance after a living politician? On Mar 28, 2016 10:29 AM, "Don Veino" <sharedweight_net(a)veino.com> wrote: > Jefferson and Liberty. > > On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 10:21 AM, Ron Blechner via Callers < > callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > >> I have another question to pose: >> >> Is there precedent for naming a dance after a politician? >> >> While I may have voted for Bernie, I'm careful to not inject my political >> view into my calling / choreography. (Though, on the other hand, if Bernie >> doesn't win the nomination, in 5 years dancers will just hear "feel the >> burn".) >> >> In Dance, >> Ron Blechner >> On Mar 27, 2016 8:24 AM, "Pat Hoekje via Callers" < >> callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: >> >>> I am trying to visualize the circle R to star R with new neighbor from >>> the women's place and I have to turn around (or drop from the circle right >>> a bit early to star right with the next neighbor. What am I not seeing >>> correctly or is that true? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Pat >>> >>> >>> On Sunday, March 27, 2016 4:22 AM, Amy Wimmer via Callers < >>> callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Tom and Erik are quite right about that swing. It lasts FOREVER, which >>> is a little too long. I took Michael's suggestion and started at A2. >>> I also took Michael's suggestion of turning the allemande into a >>> two-eyed turn (an "eye-lemande" as my friend Matthew coined). Thank >>> you for the suggestions for changing that bit. >>> >>> Two callers danced it tonight. One (my husband, Tom) thought the flow >>> was good, but the swing was definitely too long. The other caller said >>> she really liked that the mad robin wasn't with your partner, which >>> she said tends to make a dance seem very partner-only-centric, >>> ignoring the neighbors. She agreed with me that I need to figure out a >>> better way to teach it. One of the band members noticed the long swing >>> and said it needs some other element to break it up. >>> >>> This particular dance community has lots of beginners and folks who >>> just don't dance very well. It took them a while to get the circle >>> right-to star right transition. Tom thought that part was simple. He >>> noticed that when one is out at the ends one should not cross over, >>> but should stand "proper." >>> >>> I very much appreciate your input, guys. Next time I'll try some more >>> of your ideas. >>> >>> -Amy >>> >>> > On Mar 26, 2016, at 5:50 PM, Tom Hinds <twhinds(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >>> > >>> > Nice dance Amy. I really like the sequence of moves. >>> > I'm trying to imagine this in my head and assume that the allemande >>> right is once around which takes less than 8 beats to do. >>> > >>> > Hope you don't mind suggesting a change. I would change the allemande >>> right to once and a half. That would give us: >>> > >>> > B2 neighbor allemande right 1 1/2 >>> > ladies ric. men pass left >>> > >>> > T >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Callers mailing list >>> Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net >>> http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Callers mailing list >>> Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net >>> http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Callers mailing list >> Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net >> http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net >> >> >

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