Here's a crack at putting the star burst in a duple improper choreography.
Stellar Star Burst
Contra/Improper
A1 -----------
(16) Neighbor gyre and swing
A2 -----------
(8) Larks/Gents allemande Left 1-1/2
(8) Partner swing
B1 -----------
(8) Long lines, forward and back
(8) Left hand Star 3/4
B2 -----------
(8) Star Burst: ravens/ladies lead out, curve left; larks/gents lead back
in (single progression)
(8) with new neighbors Right hand Star 1x
I'm not positive on the timing of B1 & B2. There are a couple of places to
adjust it. This assumes giving folks a little extra time for the star
burst, with a left hand star 3/4x that probably won't take the full 8
counts. If A2 were circle left 3/4 & partner swing. Then B1 becomes long
lines forward and back with a left hand star 1 & 1/4; which would compress
the starburst into ~6. You could also make it take more time with a double
progression (a wider out, loop, and in; although it might be hard to keep
track of). The gyre and swing at the A1 is pretty forgiving.
I don't know how different the star burst would feel from a poussette; the
two are very similar; and the above sequence could be rendered:
A1 -----------
(16) Neighbor gyre and swing
A2 -----------
(8) Larks allemande Left 1-1/2
(8) Partner swing
B1 -----------
(8) Long lines, forward and back
(8) Circle Right 3/4
B2 -----------
(8) Poussette (larks start push) to progress
(8) With next neighbors Circle Left 1X
I think I'd rather dance the first one than the second; but I'm not sure
it's worth the teaching time.
On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 5:52 PM Angela DeCarlis <aedecarlis(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> I would probably get everyone into their final positions first before
> teaching the move, so's that everyone knows where they'll end up.
>
> After that the language would look something like, "Star Right all the way
> around. With your partner and without hands, slide out and away from the
> center of the set in the direction that feels comfortable moving out of
> that star. Ones move up through the center. Twos and Threes, slide back
> into the set into the positions we previewed earlier."
>
> It would be slightly easier to teach if it weren't proper! Then you could
> specify who's leading whom for those slides.
>
> I like this move and would like to see a version of it in a duple improper
> choreography, please! Sans the folks moving through the center,
> unfortunately.
>
> Angela
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 7, 2019, 5:15 PM QuiAnn2 via Callers <
> callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>
>> If it isn’t already a defined move it should most definitely be called a
>> “star burst”!!
>>
>> Jacqui Grennan
>>
>> On Mar 7, 2019, at 1:30 PM, Luke Donforth via Callers <
>> callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I'm playing around with choreographing triplets, and I've got a sequence
>> that I think would flow well; but I'm not sure how to teach it short of a
>> demo.
>>
>> The idea is that couples 2 & 3 do a star. Out of that star, they move
>> out, up, and back in; leaving space in the middle for couple 1 to move to
>> the bottom.
>>
>> I put together an animation of it:
>> https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/292197780/
>>
>> Is that already a defined move? What would you call it? How would you
>> teach it?
>>
>> Thanks for your thoughts!
>>
>> --
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Anyone have a simple wave dance where it doesn’t matter which role is in the middle of the wave?
Kind of like Bob Isaacs’ double your fun but easier.
Thanks!
Alex
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Do you specifically want folks in the middle of short line? Or would a long
line at the sides work as well?
Erik Hoffman's Missing Duck sets up a long lines Rory O'More with a partner
allemande. If folks over or under allemande that, then the other person is
facing in and starts the hey. It all resolves with the partner balance and
swing on the other side
Other partner Rory O'More dances would probably behave similarly, although
it might not be as smooth to set up the swap as allemande +/- an extra 1/2.
Missing Duck
by Erik Hoffman
Contra/Becket-CW
A1 -----------
Slide Left to new couple
(8) Circle Left 1X
(8) Partner allemande Right 1-1/2 to long wavy line (w face in)
A2 -----------
(8) Balance and slide to the right (as in Rory O’More)
(8) Balance and slide to the left (as in Rory O’More)
B1 -----------
(16) Hey, ravens passing left shoulders
B2 -----------
(16) Partner balance and swing
On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 2:25 PM Bob Isaacs via Callers <
callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
> Hi Alex and All:
>
> This may or not be what you're asking for, but the following role-free
> contra was written where any dancer can be at any position in the wave. I
> learned in writing this that it was too difficult for me to include a
> neighbor swing, keep it role-free, and have all stay with their partner -
> Bob
>
> *Make No Assumptions* Becket-L, role-free
>
>
> A1. 8 Long lines forward and back
>
> 8 Circle L ¾ and pass through
>
>
> A2. 8 N2 dosido 1¼ to wave/4
> (1)
>
> 4,4 Balance, N2 allemande R
>
>
> B1. 16 Hey (CL, PR, OL, N2R)
>
>
> B2. 4 Centers pass L
>
> 12 Partner swing
>
>
> Written on April 11, 2014, and first called on April 23, 2014 at
> Princeton, NJ. Written at the suggestion of Paul Sawyer of Massachusetts,
> who was interested in role-free dances.
>
>
> (1) – With centers (C) taking L hands in the center and outsides (O)
> taking R hands on the side.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Callers <callers-bounces(a)lists.sharedweight.net> on behalf of
> Alexandra Deis-Lauby via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net>
> *Sent:* Friday, March 8, 2019 10:27 AM
> *To:* callers(a)sharedweight.net
> *Subject:* [Callers] Who’s in the middle?
>
> Anyone have a simple wave dance where it doesn’t matter which role is in
> the middle of the wave?
>
> Kind of like Bob Isaacs’ double your fun but easier.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Alex
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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Thank you all, for your thoughts and discussion, and I do like the name
star burst.
As I'd envisioned it, the path on the floor is very much like a poussette,
but the dancers wouldn't be holding hands. It's almost like the tandem turn
in a dolphin hey; but with motion up and down the hall. I think of zig-zag
when there's lateral movement relative to the direction the dancers are
looking, which this doesn't have either. So yeah, it's a blender-mix of a
bunch of different stuff.
I'd be curious to hear more from the square dance callers on the list about
the Tag the Line analogy; although I'm unlikely to call it a half-tag.
The triplet that inspired it will unfortunately probably not see much use.
I'll let folks know if I ever successfully (or unsuccessfully) run it.
I'll see if I can work a star burst into another choreography.
Star Burst Triplet
by: Luke Donforth
Proper triplet, 123->231
A1 -----------
(8) Lines of three, forward and back
(8) Partner Do-si-do
A2 -----------
2s:
(8) Lady round two and the gent cut through around 1s above
(8) Gent round two and the lady cut through around 3s below
B1 -----------
(8) 1s & 2s Left hand Star at the top
(8) 2s & 3s Right hand Star at the bottom
B2 -----------
(6) Star-burst: 1s walk to bottom while 2s and 3s make space and move up
(12) partner swing, end facing up
Notes: The B2 star-burst: 2s and 3s make room by continuing their direction
out of the star.
2s curve up and left, slotting into the 1s position
3s curve up and right, slotting into the 2s position
animation of it:
https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/292197780/
Thanks again all for kicking it around with me.
On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 4:30 PM Luke Donforth <luke.donev(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I'm playing around with choreographing triplets, and I've got a sequence
> that I think would flow well; but I'm not sure how to teach it short of a
> demo.
>
> The idea is that couples 2 & 3 do a star. Out of that star, they move out,
> up, and back in; leaving space in the middle for couple 1 to move to the
> bottom.
>
> I put together an animation of it:
> https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/292197780/
>
> Is that already a defined move? What would you call it? How would you
> teach it?
>
> Thanks for your thoughts!
>
> --
> Luke Donforth
> Luke.Donforth(a)gmail.com <Luke.Donev(a)gmail.com>
>
--
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I wonder if this might be considered the second half of Tag the Line (Half
Tag is a common term, but it's the first half that square dancers use).
Modern western square dance callers may think differently.
--Jerome
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and magic in it." --Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 3:30 PM Luke Donforth via Callers <
callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I'm playing around with choreographing triplets, and I've got a sequence
> that I think would flow well; but I'm not sure how to teach it short of a
> demo.
>
> The idea is that couples 2 & 3 do a star. Out of that star, they move out,
> up, and back in; leaving space in the middle for couple 1 to move to the
> bottom.
>
> I put together an animation of it:
> https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/292197780/
>
> Is that already a defined move? What would you call it? How would you
> teach it?
>
> Thanks for your thoughts!
>
> --
> Luke Donforth
> Luke.Donforth(a)gmail.com <Luke.Donev(a)gmail.com>
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Apart from Indigo Silk, my favorites are Dogleaf Reel by Lisa Greenleaf and
Best of Friends by Martha Wild.
Yoyo Zhou
On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 1:51 PM Don Veino via Callers <
callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've been assigned the opening slot at this year's 2019 New England Folk
> Festival (NEFFA) for my session:
>
> "Keepin' It Proper Contras - It's not all about improper contras! Dances
> from times past to the present set in a proper form."
>
> Soooo... what proper dances have you found to be particular favorites with
> dancers and amenable in a large hall "some experience" (non-advanced
> dancer) setting? I'd appreciate your suggestions.
>
> Thanks,
> Don
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If it isn’t already a defined move it should most definitely be called a “star burst”!!
Jacqui Grennan
> On Mar 7, 2019, at 1:30 PM, Luke Donforth via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I'm playing around with choreographing triplets, and I've got a sequence that I think would flow well; but I'm not sure how to teach it short of a demo.
>
> The idea is that couples 2 & 3 do a star. Out of that star, they move out, up, and back in; leaving space in the middle for couple 1 to move to the bottom.
>
> I put together an animation of it:
> https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/292197780/ <https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/292197780/>
>
> Is that already a defined move? What would you call it? How would you teach it?
>
> Thanks for your thoughts!
>
> --
> Luke Donforth
> Luke.Donforth(a)gmail.com <mailto:Luke.Donev@gmail.com>
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whoops - further consideration, i admit I don't know an easy way! seems straightforward though, if you just explain the simple mechanism of going out and then coming back in it doesn't seem complicated. I would make sure to say how far around the star should go, who is in the lead going out and then who is in the lead going back in.
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looks like a star into a slide left
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Subject: [Callers] How would you teach this? What would you call it?
Hi All,
I'm playing around with choreographing triplets, and I've got a sequence that I think would flow well; but I'm not sure how to teach it short of a demo.
The idea is that couples 2 & 3 do a star. Out of that star, they move out, up, and back in; leaving space in the middle for couple 1 to move to the bottom.
I put together an animation of it:
https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/292197780/
Is that already a defined move? What would you call it? How would you teach it?
Thanks for your thoughts!
--
Luke Donforth
Luke.Donforth(a)gmail.com<mailto:Luke.Donev@gmail.com>
looks like a star into a slide left
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Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2019 4:30 PM
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Subject: [Callers] How would you teach this? What would you call it?
Hi All,
I'm playing around with choreographing triplets, and I've got a sequence that I think would flow well; but I'm not sure how to teach it short of a demo.
The idea is that couples 2 & 3 do a star. Out of that star, they move out, up, and back in; leaving space in the middle for couple 1 to move to the bottom.
I put together an animation of it:
https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/292197780/
Is that already a defined move? What would you call it? How would you teach it?
Thanks for your thoughts!
--
Luke Donforth
Luke.Donforth(a)gmail.com<mailto:Luke.Donev@gmail.com>
I like Rory O’More, but Money Musk and Chorus Jig are probably the most often danced (and perhaps most favorite) proper dances.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Mar 4, 2019, at 6:27 PM, Gregory Frock via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>
> Something new perhaps? I wrote this recently, trying to avoid the ubiquitous half figure 8 figure:
>
> It's Good to be Number Two
> Duple, Proper
>
> A1: Second corners balance LH and swat the flea (8), and allemande left once or twice (8);
> A2: Partners meltdown swing (16), end facing across;
> B1: Balance the ring and petronella (8), neighbors swing (8), end facing across;
> B2: Balance the ring (4), gents roll their neighbors away with a half sashay (4), twos (ONLY!) swing (8), end facing new ones.
>
> Title is a little sardonic. If you want, you could call it Composition 156. I also second QuiAnn2's endorsement of Indigo Silk.
>
> Greg
>
>> On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 4:51 PM Don Veino via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've been assigned the opening slot at this year's 2019 New England Folk Festival (NEFFA) for my session:
>>
>> "Keepin' It Proper Contras - It's not all about improper contras! Dances from times past to the present set in a proper form."
>>
>> Soooo... what proper dances have you found to be particular favorites with dancers and amenable in a large hall "some experience" (non-advanced dancer) setting? I'd appreciate your suggestions.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Don
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