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Hume Fogg Reel Becket Susan Kevra
A1 Circle Left 3/4, pass through and swing the next
A2 LL F/B, Ladies Chain
B1 Ladies Allemand R 1x Turn Partner Left 1 1/2 Gents turn R 1x
B2 Partner B and Swing
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Subject: Re: [Callers] Good dances with challenging timing
Thanks all for the great suggestions! Here’s the workshop I’m planning:
(1) Light, (hopefully) humorous, and (just maybe) illuminating intro about how timing awareness increases dancing fun.
(2) A simple dance with all 8-beat figures:
A1: DD N, N sw
A2: Gents Al L 1½, P sw
B1: F&B, R&L
B2: LC, star L
While dancing we all count out loud and say 2-beat calls together e.g. “1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, Ladies Chain”.
(3) Joyride (Erik Weberg) - use our 8-count awareness to take a full 8 counts for the first three figures (gypsy, mad robin, half poussette). OK to keep counting out loud.
(4) Hull’s Victory - demonstrate how changing your arm length allows a loose or tight allemande. Walk through both the loose trad way (allemande neighbor once [8], 1’s allemande ½ [4]) and tight modern way (allemande neighbor twice [8], 1’s allemande once [4]). In 5-couple sets dance it 5 times loose and 10 times tight.
(5) Princeton Petronellas (Bob Isaacs):
A1: N B&S
A2: Bal O, spin, P allemande L ½, half hey
B1: P B&S
B2: Bal O, spin, N allemande L ½, half hey
Use our 8-count awareness to end the swings in time to be right on the money for the ring balances. Take 2 beats each for the allemandes and hey passes for a satisfying B&S.
(6) If there’s time I’d like to add a dance with circle left ¾ [6], pass through [2], swing new neighbor [8]. In my experience most people dance it too loosely so you never get an 8-count swing. My favorite dance with that sequence is Cary Ravitz’s Heart of Glass (where I usually substitute shift left [2], circle left ¾ [6], swing neighbor) but this session is already long on heys. Anybody have another good/great dance with that sequence and no hey?
Rick
On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 6:53 PM, Read Weaver via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net<mailto:callers@lists.sharedweight.net>> wrote:
I find pretty much any dance that ends with three changes of rights & lefts has people late to the first figure, because they take 8 counts to do those three changes (rather than 6 counts to do the three changes, and 2 counts to move on).
Read Weaver
Jamaica Plain, MA
http://lcfd.org<https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flcfd.org&d…>
On Feb 1, 2018, at 10:26 AM, Rick Mohr via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net<mailto:callers@lists.sharedweight.net>> wrote:
Some dances require skill to make the timing work — like starting a figure with dispatch so a later balance will be on time, or doing a figure leisurely to avoid being early for the next one. But while many dancers have the awareness to make things like that work, many dancers don’t. Since there are plenty of fantastic dances without such challenges I tend not to call dances which have them.
But I’ve also found that such dances are great when I’m asked to lead a workshop helping dancers improve their skills. Longtime dancers aren't eager to change their habits, and having something concrete like making a balance on time adds motivation, ideally opening a window where learning is possible.
Unfortunately though I've discarded or passed on collecting most such dances!
Have any suggestions of good/great dances where the timing is tight or loose in spots?
One of mine in that category is Crow Flight (http://rickmohr.net/Contra/Dances.asp#CrowFlight<https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frickmohr.n…>). Learning opportunities include gents flowing from swing to circle (common with aware dancers but a revelation to some), ladies moving efficiently from circle to hey, and doing a hey with two steps per pass (possibly realizing the difference between a 3-change and 4-change half hey).
Thanks for any ideas!
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#6, Susan Kevra's Hume Fog Reel (Becket) has that sequence in A1. No hey, just lots of allemands in b1.. I don't want to get the dance wrong here off the top of my head so I'm sure it's out there.
bill
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Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 4:31 PM
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Subject: Re: [Callers] Good dances with challenging timing
Thanks all for the great suggestions! Here’s the workshop I’m planning:
(1) Light, (hopefully) humorous, and (just maybe) illuminating intro about how timing awareness increases dancing fun.
(2) A simple dance with all 8-beat figures:
A1: DD N, N sw
A2: Gents Al L 1½, P sw
B1: F&B, R&L
B2: LC, star L
While dancing we all count out loud and say 2-beat calls together e.g. “1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, Ladies Chain”.
(3) Joyride (Erik Weberg) - use our 8-count awareness to take a full 8 counts for the first three figures (gypsy, mad robin, half poussette). OK to keep counting out loud.
(4) Hull’s Victory - demonstrate how changing your arm length allows a loose or tight allemande. Walk through both the loose trad way (allemande neighbor once [8], 1’s allemande ½ [4]) and tight modern way (allemande neighbor twice [8], 1’s allemande once [4]). In 5-couple sets dance it 5 times loose and 10 times tight.
(5) Princeton Petronellas (Bob Isaacs):
A1: N B&S
A2: Bal O, spin, P allemande L ½, half hey
B1: P B&S
B2: Bal O, spin, N allemande L ½, half hey
Use our 8-count awareness to end the swings in time to be right on the money for the ring balances. Take 2 beats each for the allemandes and hey passes for a satisfying B&S.
(6) If there’s time I’d like to add a dance with circle left ¾ [6], pass through [2], swing new neighbor [8]. In my experience most people dance it too loosely so you never get an 8-count swing. My favorite dance with that sequence is Cary Ravitz’s Heart of Glass (where I usually substitute shift left [2], circle left ¾ [6], swing neighbor) but this session is already long on heys. Anybody have another good/great dance with that sequence and no hey?
Rick
On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 6:53 PM, Read Weaver via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net<mailto:callers@lists.sharedweight.net>> wrote:
I find pretty much any dance that ends with three changes of rights & lefts has people late to the first figure, because they take 8 counts to do those three changes (rather than 6 counts to do the three changes, and 2 counts to move on).
Read Weaver
Jamaica Plain, MA
http://lcfd.org<https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flcfd.org&d…>
On Feb 1, 2018, at 10:26 AM, Rick Mohr via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net<mailto:callers@lists.sharedweight.net>> wrote:
Some dances require skill to make the timing work — like starting a figure with dispatch so a later balance will be on time, or doing a figure leisurely to avoid being early for the next one. But while many dancers have the awareness to make things like that work, many dancers don’t. Since there are plenty of fantastic dances without such challenges I tend not to call dances which have them.
But I’ve also found that such dances are great when I’m asked to lead a workshop helping dancers improve their skills. Longtime dancers aren't eager to change their habits, and having something concrete like making a balance on time adds motivation, ideally opening a window where learning is possible.
Unfortunately though I've discarded or passed on collecting most such dances!
Have any suggestions of good/great dances where the timing is tight or loose in spots?
One of mine in that category is Crow Flight (http://rickmohr.net/Contra/Dances.asp#CrowFlight<https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frickmohr.n…>). Learning opportunities include gents flowing from swing to circle (common with aware dancers but a revelation to some), ladies moving efficiently from circle to hey, and doing a hey with two steps per pass (possibly realizing the difference between a 3-change and 4-change half hey).
Thanks for any ideas!
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Ron,
Well, I have one inspired by the mating of Tetrahymena (a ciliated protozoan like a Paramecium) called Tetrahymena Twirl, and it’s kind of nerdy. Three person (one a couple unit) hey. I consider it intermediate - it’s a little weird in teaching but dances easily once it starts. It’s great to a ragtime set of tunes.
There’s another called San Diego Sleigh Ride which is very easy with a figure where ones back up under twos arch, then twos do the same, then repeat. People really like it. It has a neighbor swing and an “active” couple swing that can be switched back and forth from 1s to 2s. Sort of a “dorky” figure if not a dorky inspiration. Based on Nantucket Sleigh Ride, which had no swings, as I recall.
Consider Hydrogen was written as a tribute to the late great Richard Feynman - the figures represent atomic movement and structure. “Consider hydrogen” was one of two questions on his Quantum Mechanics class final.
You can find them all on my website https://sites.google.com/site/marthawildscallsofthewild/ <https://sites.google.com/site/marthawildscallsofthewild/>. Unfortunately, I can’t figure out how to make it show up in searches - I chose the public settings, so it’s a mystery why it keeps showing up as https.
Martha
> On Feb 7, 2018, at 6:58 AM, Ron Blechner via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
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> Hey callers,
>
> I'm looking for dances with nerdy inspirations to add a few more choices to an upcoming session. Skill level easy through intermediate+.
>
> This can be dances inspired by a nerdy reason (like Jurassic Redheads or Star Trek) or some kind of nerdy-choreography.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Ron Blechner
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For historic nerdiness, how about an old dance from proper formation like
Jackson Liberty?
On Feb 7, 2018 11:44 AM, "DAVID HARDING via Callers" <
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"Entangled in Monte Carlo" by Luke Donforth
http://www.madrobincallers.org/2014/11/12/contra-with-a-swing-dance-move/
On February 7, 2018 at 8:58 AM Ron Blechner via Callers <
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Hey callers,
I'm looking for dances with nerdy inspirations to add a few more choices to
an upcoming session. Skill level easy through intermediate+.
This can be dances inspired by a nerdy reason (like Jurassic Redheads or
Star Trek) or some kind of nerdy-choreography.
Thanks!
Ron Blechner
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I find pretty much any dance that ends with three changes of rights & lefts has people late to the first figure, because they take 8 counts to do those three changes (rather than 6 counts to do the three changes, and 2 counts to move on).
Read Weaver
Jamaica Plain, MA
http://lcfd.org
> On Feb 1, 2018, at 10:26 AM, Rick Mohr via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>
> Some dances require skill to make the timing work — like starting a figure with dispatch so a later balance will be on time, or doing a figure leisurely to avoid being early for the next one. But while many dancers have the awareness to make things like that work, many dancers don’t. Since there are plenty of fantastic dances without such challenges I tend not to call dances which have them.
>
> But I’ve also found that such dances are great when I’m asked to lead a workshop helping dancers improve their skills. Longtime dancers aren't eager to change their habits, and having something concrete like making a balance on time adds motivation, ideally opening a window where learning is possible.
>
> Unfortunately though I've discarded or passed on collecting most such dances!
>
> Have any suggestions of good/great dances where the timing is tight or loose in spots?
>
> One of mine in that category is Crow Flight (http://rickmohr.net/Contra/Dances.asp#CrowFlight <http://rickmohr.net/Contra/Dances.asp#CrowFlight>). Learning opportunities include gents flowing from swing to circle (common with aware dancers but a revelation to some), ladies moving efficiently from circle to hey, and doing a hey with two steps per pass (possibly realizing the difference between a 3-change and 4-change half hey).
>
> Thanks for any ideas!
Hey callers,
I'm looking for dances with nerdy inspirations to add a few more choices to
an upcoming session. Skill level easy through intermediate+.
This can be dances inspired by a nerdy reason (like Jurassic Redheads or
Star Trek) or some kind of nerdy-choreography.
Thanks!
Ron Blechner
Spare Parts - The Regency Ballroom
http://www.bfv.com/regency/
> On 6/02/2018, at 11:48, Rich Sbardella via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
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> Does anyone have a dance length recording of Sir Roger De Coverly?
> I need a source for purchase.l
> Rich
> Stafford, CT
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https://people.well.com/user/cwj/bangersandmash/SRdC.htmlhttp://www.brassworksband.com/recordings.html
Depending on how much you care about the name tune, the dance works to a
wide assortment of duple or triple meter tunes, and a Virginia Reel
medley would do the job.
-- Alan
On 2/5/2018 2:48 PM, Rich Sbardella via Callers wrote:
> Does anyone have a dance length recording of Sir Roger De Coverly?
> I need a source for purchase.l
> Rich
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