Hi Esther,
If anyone has not mentioned it, I feel there is a kink in the flow trying to go from a petronella to a chain. As you spin R, it is the left hand which feels available as you face the set because your body has been rotating clockwise, even as it move CCW around the minor set. So there will be this washing machine action to get into the chain. You might be counting on the claps to arrest that movement, but I still feel it's not an especially satisfying entry into the chain. A gents chain, otoh, would be peachy.
What, to you, is the hook in this dance? What were you going for?
Best,
Andrea
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> On Apr 10, 2017, at 5:24 PM, Esther Fraser via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
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> Hey folks,
>
> Has anyone seen this dance already?
>
> A1: Balance the ring & petronella
> Ladies Chain
> A2: Full Hey, Ladies pass R (16)
> B1: Ladies Chain
> P Allemande L
> B2: Balance the ring & Petronella
> Balance the ring & California twirl
>
> Also interested in other dances that have a Ladies' Chain to into Allemande Left (with the one you chain to) combo. I think I might have seen it somewhere, but I can't remember where.
>
> Thanks,
> Esther Fraser
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I wrote a couple different ones, playing with that title. They're all
similar, and mostly designed to go after my beginner walk through (which
teaches the progression with balance the ring -> pass through)
It's highly probable that other folks have also used riffs on that title,
and that these dances already exist under other names:
If you can walk, then you can dance
by Luke Donforth
Contra/Improper/Easy
A1 -----------
(8) Neighbor Do-si-do
(8) Neighbor swing
A2 -----------
(8) Promenade across the Set (with neighbor)
(8) Circle Right 3/4
B1 -----------
(16) Partner balance and swing
B2 -----------
(8) Circle Left 3/4
(4) Balance the Ring
(4) Pass through to new neighbors
I like to walk, I love to dance
by Luke Donforth
Contra/Improper/Beginner-Easy
A1 -----------
(8) Neighbor Do-si-do
(8) Neighbor swing
A2 -----------
(8) Promenade across the Set
(8) Long lines, forward and back
B1 -----------
(8) Gents allemande Left 1-1/2
(8) Partner swing
B2 -----------
(8) Circle Left 3/4
(4) Balance the Ring
(4) Pass through to new neighbors
(This is the same moves as "To Wedding Bliss" by Mark Goodwin, but the A2
and B1 are reversed, so you promenade with neighbor instead of partner)
Don’t have to walk, but you can dance
by Luke Donforth
Contra/Improper/Easy
A1 -----------
(8) Neighbor Do-si-do
(8) Neighbor swing
A2 -----------
(8) Promenade across the Set (with neighbor)
(8) Ladies allemande Right 1-1/2
B1 -----------
(16) Partner balance and swing
B2 -----------
(8) Circle Left 3/4
(4) Balance the Ring
(4) California Twirl with Partner
I look forward to hearing what other dances exist under that title.
Luke
On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 9:41 PM, Rich Sbardella via Callers <
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> I am looking for a contra dance titled, "If You Can Walk, You can Dance",
> or maybe, "If you Can Dance, You Can Walk".
>
> Would someone please share it, or a link.
>
> Thanks,
> Rich
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I am looking for a contra dance titled, "If You Can Walk, You can Dance",
or maybe, "If you Can Dance, You Can Walk".
Would someone please share it, or a link.
Thanks,
Rich
Looks like a nice dance, Kelsey. The pushback/ricochet into a swing is one
of my favorite combinations of moves.
I must say, however, that I'm not familiar with the Jersey twirl. It is
just a CA twirl, but with the opposite hands, and then you use the joined
hands (Gent's left, Lady's right) to pull into the swing?
Thanks again for sharing! :)
Mark
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> Hi! Had an idea and wanted to share it with y'all!
>
> Venturing Vortices
> Improper by Kelsey Hartman 3.18.2017
> {Started out as a dance written for the Ides of March (called Berkeley
> dance 3.15.2017) called "Take a Stab at It,"
>
> (Sharon Gavin suggested the title)
>
> but the B1's timing didn't quite work. Loved the flow of the A1 and A2 so
> re-wrote the ending and renamed it.}
> A1: (16) Balance the ring and jersey twirl to swing neighbor
> A2: (16) Gents start 1/2 hey and ladies ricochet back to partner SWING
> B1: (16) (eFace away from partner) pass Shadow #1 by left, Shadow #2 by
> right, LEFT shoulder round Shadow #3, RETURN pass #2 by right, #1 by left
> B2: (8) Circle Left with partner and current neighbors 3/4, CA twirl and
> (8) Circle Right 1x around (move it!)
>
> Would love comments...thanks, Dan Veino for sharing the jersey twirl...
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Hi Esther,
Such a move is in my Greenfield Tornado dance. Choreo and a video link is
on my blog post <http://veino.com/blog/?p=1363>. I'm not aware of any other
dance until now which used this combination, but would be happy to give
credit to a prior pioneer.
-Don
On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 5:24 PM, Esther Fraser via Callers <
callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
> Also interested in other dances that have a Ladies' Chain to into
> Allemande Left (with the one you chain to) combo. I think I might have seen
> it somewhere, but I can't remember where.
Hi! Had an idea and wanted to share it with y'all!
Venturing Vortices
Improper by Kelsey Hartman 3.18.2017
{Started out as a dance written for the Ides of March (called Berkeley
dance 3.15.2017) called "Take a Stab at It,"
(Sharon Gavin suggested the title)
but the B1's timing didn't quite work. Loved the flow of the A1 and A2 so
re-wrote the ending and renamed it.}
A1: (16) Balance the ring and jersey twirl to swing neighbor
A2: (16) Gents start 1/2 hey and ladies ricochet back to partner SWING
B1: (16) (eFace away from partner) pass Shadow #1 by left, Shadow #2 by
right, LEFT shoulder round Shadow #3, RETURN pass #2 by right, #1 by left
B2: (8) Circle Left with partner and current neighbors 3/4, CA twirl and
(8) Circle Right 1x around (move it!)
Would love comments...thanks, Dan Veino for sharing the jersey twirl...
Sent from my iPhone
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Hey folks,
Has anyone seen this dance already?
A1: Balance the ring & petronella
Ladies Chain
A2: Full Hey, Ladies pass R (16)
B1: Ladies Chain
P Allemande L
B2: Balance the ring & Petronella
Balance the ring & California twirl
Also interested in other dances that have a Ladies' Chain to into Allemande
Left (with the one you chain to) combo. I think I might have seen it
somewhere, but I can't remember where.
Thanks,
Esther Fraser
As you know, contra dancers on this side of the pond have little or no patience for dances without at least a partner swing. In fact I hear complaints if there are too many dances in an evening that don't also include a neighbor swing. Dances like Illegal in Most States, with a neighbor, shadow, and partner swing, are much more popular and well received. A dance with no swings, or with a neighbor only swing, would prompt immediate unhappy feedback from the floor. Just a different set of expectations.
Chorus Jig is the only familiar dance I can think of that doesn't leave you next to your partner on the side of the set at any point. Many younger dancers I know don't consider it a "real" contra, and find its lack of swings frustrating. (When it's called at Glen Echo [rarely], many 2s add a swing in the middle of the set while the 1s go down the outside, and often a second swing while the 1s swing in B2.) On Apr 10, 2017 4:25 AM, John Sweeney via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
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> Hi all,
> My categories are a little different:
> Dances I want to try once I am calling for a group that can handle them
> Dances for beginners
> My current set of favourite dances which I will use for most gigs
> Dances to fall back on when something doesn't work
> Chestnuts and other traditional dances
> Contra style dances in other formations (Triple Minor, Double Contra, Hex,
> etc.)
> Everything else is in alphabetical order - otherwise how can you find them?
> - I work out which ones I want from my database
> Then there are lots more categories for all the other genres I call
>
> The stuff in alphabetical order doesn't get used as much. I would rather
> use great dances. Most dancers are very happy to dance the favourites
> regularly.
>
> I get very bored with dances which go "swing, circle 3/4, swing" or "swing,
> someone Allemande 1 & 1/2, swing" and very rarely use them now unless the
> other half of the dance is stunning.
>
> April said, "I believe that at some point in every dance, you and your
> partner are on the same side, usually swinging, so from that perspective all
> dances can start in Becket".
>
> But dances can be:
> Partner Swing only
> Neighbour Swing only
> Partner & Neighbour Swing
> No Swing
>
> And the Partner Swing doesn't have to be on the side - it could be #1s
> swinging in the middle (or in an old dance everyone swinging in the middle)
>
> So, no, they are not all Becket!
>
> I use quite a few No Swing dances and everyone seems happy to do them -
> though attitudes are somewhat different on this side of the pond.
>
> Does anyone use No Swing contras at American contra dances?
>
> Happy dancing,
> John
>
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Tom's classic The Tease. Anything with a dolphin hey. Many chestnuts. On Apr 10, 2017 9:29 AM, Harold Watson via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
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> Interesting. Would you please define unequal dances, maybe give an example?
>
> Harold Watson
> Fayetteville Traditional Dance Society
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> Cc: Cheryl Joyal via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net>
> Subject: Re: [Callers] How do you organize your Dance Card Boxes ?
> Categories or Other Suggestions ?
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>
> On Apr 9, 2017, at 1:32 PM, April Blum via Callers wrote:
>
> > I believe that at some point in every dance, you and your partner are
> > on the same side, usually swinging, so from that perspective all
> > dances can start in Becket, just depends on where you decide A1 is. So
> > I would not find dances that begin in Becket a useful category.
> >
>
> Actually not all can start in Becket.
>
> How about a category for unequal dances? They can serve a purpose from time
> to time.
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I believe that at some point in every dance, you and your partner are on the same side, usually swinging, so from that perspective all dances can start in Becket, just depends on where you decide A1 is. So I would not find dances that begin in Becket a useful category.
I do collect dances that start in Becket and DO NOT begin circle three places and ________ (swing, pass, etc) your neighbor. It's a small percentage.
April Blum On Apr 7, 2017 9:20 PM, Cheryl Joyal via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
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> I am at the point that I want to reorganize my dance box to be able to better program an evening. I plan to go to “categories of dance features”, and have listed what I am thinking for possible categories below.
>
> I am wondering how others organize their boxes - if categories, what do you include ? Do you file Becket and/or Double Progression separately from “dance categories”, or just note on card ?
>
> Or do you have another suggestion ?
>
> Possible Categories:
>
> Easy and ONS Contras
> California Twirl
> Full Hey
> 1/2 Hey
> Down the Hall
> Petronella
> Mad Robin
> Short Wavy Lines
> Long Wavy Lines
> Zig Zag
> Balance the Ring
> Box The Gnat
> ? Four Facing Four
> ? Becket
> ? Double Progression
> ? Unique (e.g. Wizards Walk)
>
> Appreciate your suggestions !! Thanks - Cheryl
>
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