[Callers] does this dance already exist?

[Chris Page]

In contra, I find 2 beats per pull-by and 1 beat per quarter turn
works out nicely.

When it's done with balances, and quick pull-bys, people can cheat by
trimming the balance times.

When it gets done as 8 beats for a square through four without
balances, the floor becomes rather choppy, to say the least.

-Chris Page
San Diego, CA
On Sun, Sep 9, 2018 at 7:57 AM Rich Sbardella via Callers
<callers at lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>
> In MWSD it is the fact that the dancers are not adjacent to each other, the two beats allow them to get into the center and then they have 8 beats to square thru.
> -Rich
>
> On Sun, Sep 9, 2018 at 2:48 AM Nick Cuccia via Callers <callers at lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>>
>> Could hand technique be contributing to square thrus taking more than
>> two beats per exchange?  One of my long-past English dance instructors
>> taught pull-by hands as almost a quick handshake-and-release, where
>> you're no longer in contact by the time you're shoulder-to-shoulder.  If
>> the dancers maintain contact for longer than that, one of them is almost
>> certainly going to have less than a 1/4 turn after the exchange, while
>> the other will have more than a 1/4 turn.  I've observed this phenomena
>> even in 16-beat square thrus with balances preceding the first and third
>> exchanges.
>>
>> --Nick
>>
>> [Stuff below Rich's response snipped]
>>
>> On 09/08/2018 09:34 PM, Rich Sbardella via Callers wrote:
>> > The Callerlab timing chart has square thru taking 10 beats from a
>> > static square and 8 beats from (closer( facing couples such as they
>> > would be after the heads star thru.
>> >
>> > In the following square I would allow 10 beats.
>> >
>> > Heads Lead Right & Circle to a Line,
>> > Lines F&B
>> > 2 ladies Chain Across and Back
>> > Has Square Thru 4  (This square thru is from a line of four that is at
>> > the sides static position.
>> > Corner Swg & Promenade
>> >
>> > In the square, below, I would use 8 beats for the second square thru.
>> >
>> > Heads Sq Thru 4 (10)
>> > RH Star (8), LH Star (8)
>> > Corner DSD (6), Sq Thru 4 (8)
>> > Can Swg (8), Promenade (16)
>> >
>> > In this square the dancers start the second square thru nose to nose
>> > rather than across the set.
>> >
>> > Most contra would be starting a square thru from across the set, so 10
>> > is a good number, if it starts after a balance, 8 would be wiser.
>> >
>> > Rich
>> >
>>
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