[Callers] Favorite dance to teach a ladies chain?

[Claire Baffaut via Callers]

Could anyone share a dance that has a promenade with a courtesy turn or can
any promenade across the set be adapted to promenade with a courtesy turn?

Claire

On Sep 4, 2016 7:37 AM, "Jack Mitchell via Callers" <
callers at lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

> Richard said:
> "My first dance with a courtesy turn may use it with a promenade,
> depending on the crowd. Then move on to dances with a chain or R&L.
> Once the turn is understood and well done, the others are easy."
>
> And thus we come to why teaching moves with a courtesy turn is so much
> easier in New England (where promenade and courtesy turn are both done in
> the same position).  Oh how much easier if we all did a "New England
> promenade."
>
> J
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 11:47 AM Richard Hart via Callers <
> callers at lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>
>> I usually try to separate the courtesy turn from the chain. A courtesy
>> turn is used in a number of moves, including R&L through, and a
>> promenade. Practice that first with your partner. Man backs up and the
>> woman gores forward, with arms around your partner's back. .Remember
>> to stop facing the right direction, and as a caller remember to tell
>> dancers which way to face. This can be done in a couple of minutes or
>> so.
>>
>> My first dance with a courtesy turn may use it with a promenade,
>> depending on the crowd. Then move on to dances with a chain or R&L.
>> Once the turn is understood and well done, the others are easy.
>>
>> I agree with Erik (and Dudley!) The walkthrough and instruction should
>> be short. They'd all rather be dancing, so don't introduce much new
>> stuff in any single dance.
>>
>> And thanks for this discussion. I love seeing new dances to try and
>> new possibilities to teach when there are a lot of beginners.
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 11:18 AM, Luke Donforth via Callers
>> <callers at lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>> > Hello all,
>> >
>> > I've been thinking about glossary dances, and building vocabulary for
>> new
>> > dancers. I'm curious what your favorite dance is for teaching a ladies
>> chain
>> > for a crowd of mostly new dancers? Or if you don't have a specific
>> dance,
>> > what do you look for in a dance to make the chain as accessible as
>> possible?
>> >
>> > Just a chain over? Or a full chain over and back?
>> > Chain to neighbor? Chain to partner?
>> > What move best precedes the chain to set it up?
>> > What move best follows the chain that still helps new dancers succeed?
>> > Other factors you consider?
>> >
>> > I don't have a go-to favorite, but I'll walk through some of the things
>> I
>> > think about:
>> >
>> > I very seldom call a dance with a full chain. Experienced dancers don't
>> > whoop and holler over them, and for new dancers, I'd worry the confusion
>> > would snowball.
>> >
>> > Programatically, in a hall with a reasonable mix of new and experienced
>> > dancers, I shoot for the first chain to be to neighbor so that the new
>> > dancers can feel it with different experienced dancers; rather than new
>> > dancers (who will partner up and clump, no matter how many helpful
>> dance
>> > angels you have) continually chaining to each other. If I were trying to
>> > teach a chain to ALL new dancers... well, I doubt I'd teach a chain to
>> > completely new dancers... but if I were, I'd probably go to partner.
>> >
>> > For moves, while I love the chain->left hand star transition; I'm not
>> > convinced it's the best for teaching the chain. It often goes B2
>> > chain->star, find new neighbor; and the new neighbor from a left hand
>> star
>> > is non-trivial for new dancers. Possibly a dance where the chain->star
>> > wasn't followed by the progression would work, but it's such a great
>> > progression when they're ready for it; I don't see many of those dances.
>> > chain->star->left allemande maybe? I do like long lines either before or
>> > after the chain as a set-up; but not on both ends. I'm not sure which
>> side
>> > of the chain the lines help more. The Trip to ___ dances that end with
>> > chains and start with women walking in to long wavy lines flow well,
>> but I
>> > don't know that they're the best for teaching chains, since the long
>> wavy
>> > line is another new piece.
>> >
>> > Anyway, just some of my thoughts (started by the other thread about
>> simple
>> > glossary dances). I look forward to hearing what others on Shared Weight
>> > have to say about the dances they use to teach chains (and I certainly
>> won't
>> > be offended if folks tangent off into gent's chains; just start a new
>> thread
>> > ;-)
>> >
>> > Take care,
>> >
>> >
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>> > Luke Donforth
>> > Luke.Donforth at gmail.com
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