[Callers] here it is - sorry

Darwin Gregory via Callers callers at lists.sharedweight.net
Mon Apr 4 09:10:21 PDT 2016


While I am relatively new to contra, and just called my first dance this
weekend, The Baby Rose... I'll have never considered gypsy a term related
to a race of people, nor did I know it was applied today to a group of
people called Romas.

However, my general position on terms that have both discriminatory and
non-discriminatory meanings is that the meaning needs to be derived by
context.

Before reading the discussions here, I had only considered the meaning of
gypsy as related to wandering dancers... Not a particular ethnic group.
Perhaps my view has been naive.

While I am sensitive to cultural issues, until someone comes up with a term
that captures not only the physics of the move, but also the flirtatious
nature of it, I will probably grimace any time someone uses a different
term.  Orbit, no handed swing, whatever... Until something emphasizes the
flirtatious eye contact it will fall short in my mind.  It is more than a
figure, it is a figure with an attitude.  :)

I am not necessarily arguing for the use of gypsy, but I hope someone comes
up with a better term than what I have heard so far.
On Apr 4, 2016 11:36 AM, "Aahz Maruch via Callers" <
callers at lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 04, 2016, Michael Fuerst via Callers wrote:
> > Ron Blechner:
> >>
> >> 3. That perhaps the use of "gypsy" as a term isn't as bad as non-Roma
> >> self-identitying as "dance gypsies". Roma wander because they are
> >> persecuted or can't find work. When we talk about "dance gypsies"
> >> beig wandering from place to place, we're comparing our having fun
> >> traveling to various dances to the widespread persecution of an
> >> ethnicity (the worst being the Holocaust).
> >
> > Maybe you do.  No one else uses such bizarre logic.
>
> You happen to be wrong about that.  Any time you're tempted to use
> "nobody" or "everyone" when talking about people, you're almost certainly
> wrong.
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