[Organizers] Organizers Digest, Vol 26, Issue 4

Emily Addison via Organizers organizers at lists.sharedweight.net
Tue Dec 6 07:53:00 PST 2016 

I too worry about the impact of weekends and the 'super dance' experience
impacting local's perceptions of attending 'regular' dances.

Separate from that one point, this is starting to sound like a topic to
raise with CDSS if many of us are noticing a trend.
Thoughts?
I'm wondering if we do some more sharing about best-practices on getting
new people, converting, and keeping the regulars.

Emily


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> There has been a new dance in Portland, Maine that started up earlier this
> year, which to its credit has been highly successful. It is a weekly
> mid-week dance that is not in direct competition with most NH dances, which
> are typically held monthly on weekends. However, I have had more than one
> person tell me that they are so enthused about this new dance (and
> apparently they are able to fulfill their dancing needs by its every-week
> scheduling) that they are no longer keen to get out to the smaller, more
> local dances. I liken this to the effect of a Super Walmart shutting out
> local businesses. Not sure if anything can be done about that.
>
> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 10:02 AM, Mary Collins <nativedae at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Buffalo attendance has been down as well, however the last dance was up a
> > bit.  Many of our long-time good dancers are not coming.  A suggestion
> has
> > been made that the board contact them individually to discuss their MIA
> > status, we have not made a decision as how to approach this as yet.
> >
> > I do know that in some cases there are "opposing" great events on our
> > dance nights and we loose our out-of-towners (those that travel to our
> > dance) to those.  There have been some family illnesses, travel etc. that
> > have effected us as well.
> >
> > One question that has come up among organizers and I wonder if others
> have
> > had similar thoughts...is a particular band or caller keeping folks away?
> > thoughts?
> >
> > Mary Collins, QCCD.org
> >
> > ?Life is not about waiting for the storms to pass ... it's about learning
> > to dance in the rain!? ~ Unknown
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 8:25 AM, Paul Pindris via Organizers <
> > organizers at lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
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> >> This is astonishing information, as attendance at my dance in Deerfield,
> >> NH is down as much as 50% from its peak last season. The reason or
> reasons
> >> are unclear. If the poor attendance continues it potentially jeopardizes
> >> the long-term viability of this decades-old event.
> >>
> >> Paul Pindris
> >> Deerfield, NH
> >>
> >> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 8:17 AM, Marie-Mich?le Fournier via Organizers <
> >> organizers at lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
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> >>> Hi all,
> >>>     Both Montreal and Ottawa have seen lower attendance this fall and
> we
> >>> got word that it's similar in Brooklyn. Are any other local dances
> seeing
> >>> this too? Any idea what might be causing this? Since it happens to both
> >>> Canadian and American cities I doubt it's the political climate.
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Marie
> >>> ContraMontreal
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> Even attendance at Glen Echo dances have been lower what they once were,
> though I would not say that the drop off was as dramatic as other
> locations, it is definitely lower than 10 years ago.?
>
> I can only surmise to why dance attendance has dropped off, but one guess
> that I have is that the increase of dance weekends, in my opinion, has a
> detrimental effect of dances are regular weekly/monthly dances.? In some
> ways it has jaded dancers into believing that the
> bands/callers/dancers/dancing at the weekly dances aren't as good as those
> at dance weekends.? We need an increase of community spirit at our local
> dances so we can keep getting in an influx of new dancers and get them to
> stay as regular dancers.?
>
> Affordability of dances is another reason (as rents and costs of talent
> has gone up), and perhaps saturation of dances in any one region.??
> Perry
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> Hi all,
> ??? Both Montreal and Ottawa have seen lower attendance this fall and we
> got word that it's similar in Brooklyn. Are any other local dances seeing
> this too? Any idea what might be causing this? Since it happens to both
> Canadian and American cities I doubt it's the political climate.
> Thanks,
> Marie
> ContraMontreal
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> Hi, All...
> Toronto attendance was significantly down during the 15/16 year, and it
> looks rather the same for 16/17.
>
> I'm wondering if the "good" dancers are preferring to dance at weekend
> events where the quality of the dancing is considerably better because of
> the skilled population that attend.
> Just putting that thought out there...
>
> I suppose the only way to know for sure is to poll people....
>
> -Elizabeth Szekeres
> Talent Coordinator
> Toronto Contra Dance
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> > Hi all,
> >    Both Montreal and Ottawa have seen lower attendance this fall and we
> > got word that it's similar in Brooklyn. Are any other local dances seeing
> > this too? Any idea what might be causing this? Since it happens to both
> > Canadian and American cities I doubt it's the political climate.
> > Thanks,
> > Marie
> > ContraMontreal
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> > Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2016 08:25:00 -0500
> > From: Paul Pindris via Organizers <organizers at lists.sharedweight.net>
> > To: Marie-Mich?le Fournier <mariemichele.fournier at gmail.com>
> > Cc: Shared Weight Organizers <Organizers at sharedweight.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Organizers] Lower attendance this year?
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> > This is astonishing information, as attendance at my dance in Deerfield,
> NH
> > is down as much as 50% from its peak last season. The reason or reasons
> are
> > unclear. If the poor attendance continues it potentially jeopardizes the
> > long-term viability of this decades-old event.
> >
> > Paul Pindris
> > Deerfield, NH
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 8:17 AM, Marie-Mich?le Fournier via Organizers <
> > organizers at lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi all,
> >>    Both Montreal and Ottawa have seen lower attendance this fall and we
> >> got word that it's similar in Brooklyn. Are any other local dances
> seeing
> >> this too? Any idea what might be causing this? Since it happens to both
> >> Canadian and American cities I doubt it's the political climate.
> >> Thanks,
> >> Marie
> >> ContraMontreal
> >>
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> > Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2016 07:55:01 -0600
> > From: David Kirchner via Organizers
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> > Attendance is holding reasonably steady here in Minneapolis-St. Paul. I
> > think we've had a long-term decline from where we were 6-7 years ago, but
> > certainly nothing like a 50% drop in a year's time. - David
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 7:25 AM, Paul Pindris via Organizers <
> > organizers at lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
> >
> >> This is astonishing information, as attendance at my dance in Deerfield,
> >> NH is down as much as 50% from its peak last season. The reason or
> reasons
> >> are unclear. If the poor attendance continues it potentially jeopardizes
> >> the long-term viability of this decades-old event.
> >>
> >> Paul Pindris
> >> Deerfield, NH
> >>
> >> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 8:17 AM, Marie-Mich?le Fournier via Organizers <
> >> organizers at lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>    Both Montreal and Ottawa have seen lower attendance this fall and we
> >>> got word that it's similar in Brooklyn. Are any other local dances
> seeing
> >>> this too? Any idea what might be causing this? Since it happens to both
> >>> Canadian and American cities I doubt it's the political climate.
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Marie
> >>> ContraMontreal
> >>>
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> > My home dance on Thursdays in Concord MA has been way below average
> since the summer.?
> >
> > I heard that the Amherst MA is needing to revise its pay schedule down
> due to reduced income.
> > The Canadian data puts a torpedo in my previous theory that this is a
> Trump-related effect.
> > Could it be that there are too many dances for the population?? Is this
> Great Contra Collapse of 2016?
> >
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> > Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2016 10:02:01 -0500
> > From: Mary Collins via Organizers <organizers at lists.sharedweight.net>
> > To: Paul Pindris <moonlightgraham2 at gmail.com>
> > Cc: Shared Weight Organizers <Organizers at sharedweight.net>
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> > Buffalo attendance has been down as well, however the last dance was up a
> > bit.  Many of our long-time good dancers are not coming.  A suggestion
> has
> > been made that the board contact them individually to discuss their MIA
> > status, we have not made a decision as how to approach this as yet.
> >
> > I do know that in some cases there are "opposing" great events on our
> dance
> > nights and we loose our out-of-towners (those that travel to our dance)
> to
> > those.  There have been some family illnesses, travel etc. that have
> > effected us as well.
> >
> > One question that has come up among organizers and I wonder if others
> have
> > had similar thoughts...is a particular band or caller keeping folks away?
> > thoughts?
> >
> > Mary Collins, QCCD.org
> >
> > ?Life is not about waiting for the storms to pass ... it's about learning
> > to dance in the rain!? ~ Unknown
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 8:25 AM, Paul Pindris via Organizers <
> > organizers at lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
> >
> >> This is astonishing information, as attendance at my dance in Deerfield,
> >> NH is down as much as 50% from its peak last season. The reason or
> reasons
> >> are unclear. If the poor attendance continues it potentially jeopardizes
> >> the long-term viability of this decades-old event.
> >>
> >> Paul Pindris
> >> Deerfield, NH
> >>
> >> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 8:17 AM, Marie-Mich?le Fournier via Organizers <
> >> organizers at lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>    Both Montreal and Ottawa have seen lower attendance this fall and we
> >>> got word that it's similar in Brooklyn. Are any other local dances
> seeing
> >>> this too? Any idea what might be causing this? Since it happens to both
> >>> Canadian and American cities I doubt it's the political climate.
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Marie
> >>> ContraMontreal
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
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