[Callers] Coconut Cream Puff vs Pie + choreographer?

[Don Veino]

I was aware of Lynn's dance but not Ron's when I came up with the
following. As a happy coincidence it's a sort of hybrid of the two in 32
bars.

I originally envisioned the last part of the B2 as an outward-facing CCW
circle 1/2 (i.e.: "circle left" to those in the circle) - that's the path
the individual lines/4 end up taking on the floor. As the lines/4 approach
worked, I never ended up trying an actual outward circle formation (concern
re: possible dancer shoulders/elbows strain).

-Don

BOSTON CREAM PIE – 4 FACE 4 – DON VEINO 20161005

A1
LLF&B
Center 4 Star Right 1x

A2
Partner Allemande Left 1+1/2x
(new) Center 4 Star Right 1x

B1
Partner Balance & Swing

B2
Current Ring/8 Balance, California Twirl (to facing prior Neighbors)
[Take hands in line/4 with Trail Buddies]
Left End Gent/Lark Tow Your Line (in an arc, over left shoulder) to face
new Line/4

http://veino.com/blog/?p=1401

On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 8:41 PM Winston, Alan P. via Callers <
callers at lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

> My understanding is that Lynn adapted Ron Beeson's dance, Apple Pie
> Quadrille, by changing B2 into a can't-fail circle progression from a
> "Devil's Backbone" progression.
>
> I'm going to guess that Nils called it at a dance and somebody
> misattributed the dance to him and got the name wrong.
>
> Here's the notation Ridge Kennedy posted for Apple Pie Quadrille on the
> trad-dance-callers list:
>
>
> APPLE PIE QUADRILLE
> Ron Beeson (via Ridge Kennedy)
> Four Facing Four
>
> Called by Kathy Anderson at Buffalo gap 2002
> Ask for lively music that's a bit silly to suit the dance.
>
> A-1  Lines of Four, Forward and Back
>     (Reminder - this is original direction!) (8)
>
>     Center Four (dancers in the middle of each line of four):
>     Star Right Once Around      (8)
>
> A-2 Partners Allemande Left Once and a Half              (8)
>
>     Ends (Original ends of each line of four, now Center Four)
>     Star Right Once Around (8)
>
> B-1 Partners balance and swing (16)
>
> B-2 "End Man" (Man on left end of line):Lead back over left shoulder to
>      invert line.  Lead around the *other* end of the other line and all
>      face original direction and a new line of four. (16)
>
>
> Notes: Tricky Part: Leading the line back and around is counter-intuitive.
> End man starts turning in opposite direction that his line is progressing.
>
>
> Original dance:
>
> A-1     Lines forward and back (8)      All do sa do opposite dancer    (8)
> A-2     Centre four star right (8)      All allemande left with partner x
> 3/2   (8)
> B-1     New centre four star right (8)  All swing partners      (8)
> B-2     Circle left all eight once round                (16)
> C-1     The left hand man casts left taking his line around the other line
> to face the next line           (16)
>
>
>
> -- Alan
>
>
> On 5/29/2019 5:36 PM, Liz Burkhart via Callers wrote:
>
> I have found two identical dances. First I collected Coconut Cream Puff by
> Nils Fredland, then I lost the card, and in the process of looking for it
> online, discovered Coconut Cream Pie by Lynn Ackerson. It is the same dance:
>
> 4 Facing 4
> A1 Lines of 4 go forward and back
>      middles star R once
> A2 Partner allemande L 1 1/2
>      new middles star R once
> B1 Partner balance & swing
> B2 All 8 circle L 1/2 (4 places)
>      Balance ring, partner California twirl
>
>
> So who really wrote it? Does anyone know why there are two names and two
> choreographers attributed?
>
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