[Callers] Thoughts on B2/A1 swings and having time to flourish

[Jeff Kaufman via Callers]

Hmm, I think I've seen people be late with it on twice count swings too? My
interpretation is more like, when dancers are starting to learn swing
ending flourishes the "counting from the end" to end things on time is
hard, and they tend to be late a lot. The longer the flourish they're
trying to lead, the longer in advance they need to start it and the less
likely they are to leave enough time?

(This is all still an aside, though, and I'm interested in discussion of
the main point of your post.)
On Mar 27, 2016 9:19 PM, "tavi merrill" <tavi at tavimerrill.com> wrote:

> Needs 4 counts (8 beats) to be executed well. My experience is that using
> it on 8-count swings makes a lot of people late, because most aren't
> willing to cut the swing off early enough to fit the twirl in without being
> late. Hence the usefulness of 16-count swings / utility of flourishes to
> 16-count swings, which i see as a reciprocal relationship.
>
> On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 6:05 PM, Jeff Kaufman <jeff.t.kaufman at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Mar 27, 2016 8:38 PM, "tavi merrill via Callers" <
>> callers at lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>> > like the ripcord twirl, seen in the wild here
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVpR6SxWsM4&list=RDIVquC0jqCXs&t=2m2s
>> and taught here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbyoOPc0rHQ, one of my
>> favorite swing ending flourishes but one that takes too much time to be
>> executed in an 8-count swing window
>> >
>>
>> This is a tangent, but that flourish looks like only four beats to me?
>>
>
>
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