[Callers] Fw: Shadow Swing Disclaimers?

Aahz Maruch via Callers callers at lists.sharedweight.net
Wed Sep 9 12:08:24 PDT 2015


On Tue, Sep 08, 2015, Michael Fuerst via Callers wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 8, 2015 1:53 PM, Luke Donforth <luke.donev at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Michael Fuerst via Callers <callers at lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Asking about how to appropriately do dances with shadow swings seems
>>> like asking how men can appropriately grope women during a dance.
>>
>> I again think your attempt to inject levity into a conversation have
>> come across as crass and inappropriate.  Asking about shadow swings
>> on a list for calling is pertinent; joking about men groping women
>> dancers isn't.
>
> Your assessment is inaccurate. This is not a matter where levity is
> acceptable. Creating a situation which could force someone into close,
> almost intimate proximity with a person perceived as emotionally or
> physically threatening is inappropriate. A lesser problem is that one
> can get a shadow who one considers personable, but very unpleasant
> for swinging (for example, due to either height difference, or a body
> position or weight distribution which unnecessarily strains one's own
> body).

Well, I share Luke's assessment.  The phrasing you used to compare shadow
swings and groping implies either levity or a disregard of the difference
between groping and a shadow swing.  Regardless of the seriousness with
which you view "forcing" a shadow swing, it is clear that many other
people disagree, and your comparison is not appropriate, especially given
Maia's original request to AVOID any discussion of whether shadow swings
are appropriate.
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